gee Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nowornever said: What are the chances of the RIU getting the wrong end of the stick "AGAIN" and going off half cocked without the evidence to back it up and hoping the police can find something for them? End result lots of damaged reputations and nothing to show for it! slim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, gee said: from what i heard this car guy and him and andrew stuart in pretty big shit car guy looks in the clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 So Orange is the stable driver for Ken Barron, Andrew Stuart and McGrath.......all implicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nowornever said: What are the chances of the RIU getting the wrong end of the stick "AGAIN" and going off half cocked without the evidence to back it up and hoping the police can find something for them? End result lots of damaged reputations and nothing to show for it! Police just said on radio news they have been investigating since March last year Plenty of evidence apparently.Phone calls,emails and bank payments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Richie said: Police just said on radio news they have been investigating since March last year Plenty of evidence apparently.Phone calls,emails and bank payments n odd bills for drugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rangatira said: car guy looks in the clear hes not been interviewed is liked to barron stuart orange too as hes still on holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, gee said: hes not been interviewed is liked to barron stuart orange too as hes still on holiday i posted the article on here i reckon he will still come back from bali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 the fact hes a huge better going see his name come up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, gee said: the fact hes a huge better going see his name come up shrug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, gee said: the fact hes a huge better going see his name come up And the fact he has horses trained by 3 of trainers involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 57 minutes ago, Brodie said: Word could be out that the $2 ew punter known as “The Brodster” could well be questioned! Not too sure when he was given a tip that he backed though? Skip the questioning Brodie... Just pee in the little wee cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Jesus, just had a 5min break at work and wow... Brodster now a $1ew punter? Hard enough to pick a winner nowadays without this shit going on if true!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Police raid 10 harness racing stables in Canterbury, Manawatu and Invercargill Play Video STUFF Police have raided harness racing stables across the country amid allegations of race fixing and corruption. A wealthy Christchurch punter whose home was raided in a high-level police investigation into corruption in harness racing says police will come up empty-handed. Harness racing identities have been interviewed by police following morning raids on 10 stables throughout the country, following a long-running inquiry into alleged race-fixing, corruption and drugs in the sport. Police executed search warrants on stables in Canterbury, Invercargill and Manawatū. Figures interviewed included Natalie Rasmussen, John Dunn, Blair Orange, Nigel McGrath and Andrew Stuart. Dean Kozanic The home of Christchurch car industry king pin, racehorse owner and major punter Graham Beirne was raided by police but Beirne says the allegations are "nonsense". Do you know more? Email martin.vanbeynen@stuff.co.nz or newstips@stuff.co.nz or call 027 220 4453. Orange is currently the country's top harness racing driver. Detective Superintendent Tim Anderson said police were talking to "a lot" of people in relation to the investigation, which began in April last year. Race Images John Dunn has been interviewed by police in relation to the investigation. READ MORE: Police, racing integrity unit investigate race fixing allegations No-one had been arrested but a "number of people" were expected to be arrested on Tuesday afternoon and later in the week, he said. He would not comment on the allegations surrounding drug use but said it "was possible" drug charges could be laid. Police have talked to trainer-driver Nigel McGrath. It was not yet known how much money could have been tied up in fixed matches, Anderson said. Ad Feedback Christchurch car industry king pin, racehorse owner and major punter Graham Beirne, speaking to Stuff from Bali where he is on holiday, said he had heard about the raids on Canterbury trainers and knew police wanted to interview him. "I'm a suspect put it that way. The police have been to our place this morning but I'm not there. All I have to say is one word: nonsense. Pause Mute Current Time0:09 / Duration Time1:04 Loaded: 0% Progress: 0% Quality Levels Fullscreen 1 NEWS Police say ‘imprisonment is one option’ for those caught up in alleged race-fixing in harness racing industry 1 NEWS 1 NEWS understands the investigation involves some of the country's biggest names in harness racing. "I don't know where it's coming from. If they are talking race fixing, it's nonsense. It doesn't happen, so we'll see what they come up with but they are obviously taking it seriously because they have raided stables all over the place." Four police cars and 12 police officers had come to his Fendalton house to execute a search warrant on Tuesday morning and apparently seized computers and devices, he said. "There is nothing to worry about. Race Images Police have also talked to Blair Orange. "I am a big bettor. They would pick on me probably because three or four years ago there was an article in the Sunday Star Times which said I was the most successful punter in New Zealand and they couldn't beat me, and that was true at the time. "But I haven't made any money in the last two years. The TAB records will show that." Race fixing may have occurred in the distant past but checks and balances in the current system made it too difficult, he said. DAVID WALKER/STUFF Police were at Mark Purdon and Natalie Rasmussen's All Stars Harness Racing property at Rolleston, Canterbury, on Tuesday. Purdon says police did not question him. The other issue in the industry was doping but he didn't know anything about that. Beirne said he would not return immediately to New Zealand and planned to come back as scheduled on Saturday. "By all accounts they are going to meet me at the airport." JOSEPH JOHNSON/STUFF Mark Purdon and Natalie Rasmussen at Addington Cup Week in Christchurch in 2016. He said he was "flippant" about the investigation but "I feel sorry for the trainers involved. I feel bad for the guys and the people they are interviewing. It's their livelihood. It's terrible for them". "It tarnishes all their reputations even if nothing is found which there won't be." He didn't know if any other big punters were part of the investigation. "I'm a reclusive creature so I don't know who else. RICKY WILSON/STUFF Police have raided harness racing stables around New Zealand. "It's a game for me although you always need the money. I like beating the system. It's only pacers and trotters." He had about 30 horses that were trained by a number of trainers, he said. "I don't need to race fix. I've got the pension now." Harness racing in New Zealand is a multi-million dollar industry despite being the second biggest racing code behind thoroughbred racing. Its spiritual home is in Canterbury, where the bulk of the country's trainers are based. Champion trainer Mark Purdon said police arrived with a warrant to search his home and business, All Star Stables, on Tuesday morning. Police were not interested in him but his businesss partner, Natalie Rasmussen, was still being questioned by police at 4pm, he said. "I wouldn't have thought she would have anything to worry about," Purdon said. "I certainly know as far as race fixing goes and drugs, they will draw a blank with us ... We pretty well keep to ourselves." He was surprised by the allegations against other trainers but said "the big guys" were often the first suspects. "They always pick on the people that are having the success." During the police raids, addresses were cordoned off and some occupants were seen leaving with police. Computers and devices were seized. Anderson said the investigation was prompted by information from the Racing Integrity Unit. "Police have been working in partnership with the RIU and other relevant organisations throughout the investigation." He said police expected to provide further details in the coming days. New Zealand Racing Board head of communications Kate Richards said TAB betting had not been suspended. The Board was actively monitoring the situation and would review the situation depending on the outcome of Tuesday's events, she said. Harness racing participants race for more than $28 million in prize money annually. More than 250 drivers participate in about 265 race meetings around the country each year. Just over 30 per cent of those meetings are held in the Canterbury region. WINSTON PETERS 'DISAPPOINTED' Racing Minister Winston Peters expressed his "deep disappointment at allegations of race-fixing in the New Zealand harness racing industry". "This is a sad development. New Zealanders need to have confidence that the racing industry has integrity and is not above the law," Peters said. In a written statement, New Zealand Racing Board chair Glenda Hughes said the investigation "while disappointing, shows the racing integrity system is working". The board's chief executive, John Allen, said he was confident alleged breaches would be "investigated and prosecuted appropriately". "Those involved in the industry and the Kiwi punters who support it must have confidence in the integrity of the sport." Harness Racing New Zealand Chief Executive Edward Rennell confirmed he was aware a police operation was under way but had no further details. - Stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Richie said: And the fact he has horses trained by 3 of trainers involved and who has most to gain by the race fixing on the punt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Flagship uberalles said: Jesus, just had a 5min break at work and wow... Brodster now a $1ew punter? Hard enough to pick a winner nowadays without this shit going on if true!! Anyone who had more than a $10 bet on any of Blairs horses expect a knock on the door from the RIU/Police 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 lol @ It was not yet known how much money could have been tied up in fixed matches, Anderson said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Nowornever said: Anyone who had more than a $10 bet on any of Blairs horses expect a knock on the door from the RIU/Police all whilst the tab are trying to drive turnover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nowornever said: Anyone who had more than a $10 bet on any of Blairs horses expect a knock on the door from the RIU/Police Well i am off what times the next plane out of here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, theshu said: Well i am off what times the next plane out of here. next avail is thurs week 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, theshu said: Well i am off what times the next plane out of here. they got ur passport 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I find the timing of this investigation just after the Messara report deeply alarming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, Richie said: Police just said on radio news they have been investigating since March last year Plenty of evidence apparently.Phone calls,emails and bank payments Heard same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nowornever said: I find the timing of this investigation just after the Messara report deeply alarming! exactly was the report about the only code that will be in existence come implementation time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nowornever said: I find the timing of this investigation just after the Messara report deeply alarming! Police Investigation has been going on for 18 months.I assume now that is why Harness Racing wasn't mentioned in messara report.I imagine Winnie would have been informed of investigation and would have told Messara not to include Harness Racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Galivant Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I feel for all the owners,trainers,drivers and members of the harness racing world who work hard , do everything by the book and are going to suffer by greed, and once again the punters are ripped .... imagine all horses who ran second or worse because of fixed races !!!!! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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