Gammalite

Yes I guess the UK restrictions really made the Dukes Funeral more like a funeral too. 1000 a day deaths in some countries at the moment . so can't say kills no-one lol. Thank the good Gods we are in NZ and Australia! Possibly the 2 most 'sort after ' destinations in the world now because of their smartness. AND definitely the TWO best Nations on Earth ! and great racing over the years. !! sorry for you , you'll just have to skip over Rangiora and head straight to the Group 1's at Auckland ? hope you enjoy.

I see. I thought it might have been anonymous. I like anonymous tickets compared to account betting personally, but way more and more am using Sportsbet as has the bet returns and power-ups , etc too good to refuse. What about a series of small bets ? they can't stop that surely? e.g 5 x $200 if you wanted $1k on? Hey and don't forget your pathetic amount of $200 or whatever, is a BIG bet for most players.

Great racing at Rangiora last Sunday too. some top horses even turned up. and a good crowd. 90,000 people will be at MCG Sunday for Anzac Day AFL match !!. how great it is. Full crowd allowed !! Empty Stadiums in Europe at their big football still....... Free to travel between Oz and NZ from yesterday. fantastic. There was a couple of thousand at Brissy airport heading home to see loved ones in NZ. A true delight to see. Our governments the best in the World !! everyone safe. Brodie knows this and loves them too. like Tab. and the Rangiora races lol......

Can't you just be normal and wander down to the Pubtab or tab outlet and put ya 100 on and 'GET em' Back' ? The big casino's even have a table limit of $250 per spin , or whatever it might be. (think of each poker hand or roulette spin as a race) and casinos have WAY more budget to play with than a Tab office. Can't expect these places to have people needing to pop $1000's per spin or greater amounts. craziness. Would be MASSES of problem gamblers, and heaps of corruption Created. Limits are a GOOD thing. go be a HIGH FLYER member somewhere and then get your money on if desperate.

Yes , both those would help Chief. esp all the honest players. monitoring of Licensee gambling and are central data base where owners could log in and 'check' their status. Not sure what happens to privacy there. A lot of licensees gamble. and a lot have friends and spouse (that could be the 'name' gambling for them). easy to get around. Also is an owner able to see / get a report on the exact ownership details of the other 'parties' sharing his horse? And how much they pay trainer /and shares in the horse. There will be a lot of dispute lol........ unfortunately. After vet I bought a business with my wife. we had a little rented shop in a block of 8 shops on a backstreet. We paid the real estate bloke (acting for landlord) $1000 per month rent approx. I wrangled that deal by good pitch and convincing arguement. The other 7 shops of same size paid $2000 a month. BUT I could Never Tell those shopkeepers How much I paid even if they asked. Honesty shelved for personal gain !!! lol.... I tried not to lie and carefully avoided the topic for 6 years, or deflected conversation lol.......

Kerr has done the industry No favours. thank goodness the RIU eventually catch up , and these people are weeded out and can Go away/ Taken away and get the help they need. Trainers like Kerr and Hayden Haitana are RARE in their criminal activities. They make Headlines. 99.5% of trainers would be doing the right thing by their owners. They are doing their very best to win for them. By far , the most unscrupulous group would be the Owners themselves. Many with 'hidden' activities and agendas and trying for a quick buck in a gambling industry , and some dodgey backgrounds. money on offer can draw out temptation to be ahead of others (and the authorities.) even on a big scale like e.g Tinkler (Patinack farms). But the main point , you cannot charge/ prosecute BEFORE the person actually does something. Police can hang around people with priors all they like, but until they do something again (e.g the Kerr Fraud to his owners) they can't step in say "Get away from that horse " and "What do you tell your owners about their horse involvement?" . Up to the people effected, to make a complaint FIRST, and as I said before a lot of them have 'unusual deals' with the trainer regarding the preparation and fees involved in preparing their horses, (Reality) and that would be in contrast to your lovely HRNZ records, that you want kept meticulously.

She did, what a little pocket dynamo, cranky little thing she was. One of her foals did quite well for Big Jim and Charlie Wong and his wife too. Captain Lee won a fair few I think, with Mango driving, before he was exported off to WA in the 90's , like every second NZ winner it seems.

Nothing rascist there Brodie. I think the demographic that reside in NZ and Aus are just pursuing the lifestyle they enjoy and harness racing wasn't part of it. Is to me a very local Tradition filled Sport. Racing is HUGE in Hong Kong and Bart Cummings raced Cox/Melbourne Cup winners for Hong Kong businessmen , many of whom buy heaps of horses every year to race in Hong Kong , from NZ and Oz. Very first horse i ever drove in South Auckland was for one of the loveliest persons I ever met in years of harness, and his wife in South Auckland. Lee Nandina owned by Charlie Wong, an Asian gentleman , market gardener in South Auckland, who would of raced a fair few over the years, with his family. got some results but had FUN too. These days the punting entertainment is indeed for instant gratification. as you suggested. Horse racing is almost entirely for people who Love horses dearly, and can wait as a Long term project for any results. (like Karrots)

To stay healthy my friend. ! some medicines are better than others.

still think the Tab is obligated to look after their clients privacy. However they should also be obligated to answer queries regarding a legitimate RIU or steward investigation. AND they do, as far as I know.

thanks Karrots , yeah Pokie Bear seem to think everyone 'doing their Jobs' is guilty of malpractice , which is ridiculous . press report (as the Galah says) , RIU investigate , drivers drive. what's the problem ? No good sticking up for people like Kerr , who have let the side down. These things happen , lots of gambling junkies out there lol.... , Brodie wants to turn over a million per annum lol.., no wonder barred/banned , whatever . Whatever happened to the fun ?? I still enjoy it . and you too obviously !. looking forward to some more great racing soon !!!

Thanks Ranga yes . 4 lovely people died of the 7 that contracted the Hendra virus in Queensland. Was like a mini Covid warning. Quite a number of horses died from the Flying Fox virus. A vaccination was developed many years later in 2012. For Horses !!! gad it didn't get any worse in people. EVERY night , great flights of Flying Foxes still glide over the Brisbane suburbs to feeding grounds , then back to their roosts. I hope every night, they don't stop over in a HORSE Feed Bin somewhere on their travels?

The great Vo Rogue ! there's a memory. his trainer Vic Rail died of Hendra virus, contracted from his horses. I was helping with autopsy of a few of Vic's horses when we found out It Killed People. Bit of a scary moment back in 1994 . was like a covid type death and we were isolated for 3 days. very scary.

He must of had some wins and some losses. YES , that is an enormous amount and even Kerry Packer wouldn't of been happy with that.! sounds worse than my $500 per week budget lol...... Hey what if they (RIU) knew of these bets. ? Are they intitled to shut down his work as trainer ? as far as they know he is collecting training fees for real owners on real horses . How would the bets 'Give away' the deception ??

Love your thoughts there Chief. would of been great for the 50 people Kerr has effected to of got the money first. Just doesn't happen like that. People Lie. They got money from grannie. Kerr could say anything. what would they do ? take all horses off him immeadiately he has a bet anywhere? he was shrewd. I know you want the RIU to be shrewder. But it's tough when people aren't honest. i don't think Betting companies should report to RIU at all. !!!!!!! Privacy please. The RIU need to ask betting companies for records of something they are investigating. (e.g like for Kerr's owners, or the QLD case with Rassmussen after dodgey race and betting , etc) I know what you are trying to say , and I agree would be great. But there are a LOT OF BETS. what if someone in the KRUG camp put 10k on Krug overseas.? Is that betting agency spose to ring the RIU and say "Hey there's a 10k bet on KRUG !! look out for trouble !!" no, ain't gunna happen. Kerr might of been betting on gallopers in large pools !!!! not gunna show up individually. Why report him? Plenty of addict gamblers are gambling everyday. Report them all you say ?? com'on ....

The stewards Identify a suspicious race obviously. Driving tactics etc, THEN the betting into that race is examined. Very High Profile trainer Vicki Rassmussen got a year DQ , and partner leading driver Shane Graham 2 years from an odd $3000 bet on a runner in a midweek not long ago. The bet came from a disgraced former Trainer . They weren't even the ones betting. Stewards can do their job Chief !! do you want betting agencies to snitch on their customers to the RIU ??? that's just silly. like I say , they can use their missus name or whatever anyway, for the account. It's ONLY when a dodgey race happens (in the view of the stewards) or someone reports something like Kerr's owners , that a 'MISadventure ' has taken place. Otherwise just Brodie having a bet ? report to RIU lol?????

The issue was about the complaints from disgruntled stable owners ?, being ripped off in the way they were. Surely the money was WELL SPENT by then? (time when RIU becomes involved) Before these complaints are raised , surely the RIU has No right to question someone on what they do with their training fees, money from all sources.? Lot's of trainers and Jockeys probably have 'Offshore' accounts I imagine. The RIU can't question every one with an account where they got the money ?grandma inheritence lol???? They Can however use the Betting trends and bets placed to use as evidence in race Fixing allegations.

In today's world with the amount of on-line identities and dishonesty, do you really think people are being honest all the time Chief ? a lot of track covering must go on ? you and I and the nice folk at BOAY probably respectful and honest , but while you are committing FRAUD , more deceptive measures are applied I would think? Sometimes more than one Bad Egg in a basket too.

hahahaha yeah right !! like Brodie lol

Have you ever heard of having an Alias to do certain things? like Gambling with other peoples' money meant for something else (like share's in a horse) or writing to a forum ? oh wait hang on ?!...............

Absolutely ! These addict gamblers (with cash from Fraud and deception) are cold, calculated actions, designed ONLY for personal gain , and no thought of the loss or occurances to others because of their actions. Just Like compulsive shop-lifters or drug sellers. Calculated actions. And not worthy of Sympathy or excuses as these are completely NON Necessary actions. (by anyone) Mental health issues, IMO, would be had more by the victims ! also addicts that actually 'do something' that effects their brain, so therefore by definition are mentally effected. e.g Alcoholic, or a Druggie actually consuming the product from those calculating criminal actions. Tabs and betting agencies don't know where people get their money from , Guy has no Priors? not convicted yet?

Think I need that advice Galah . Brisbane Lions just won the AFL womens Grand Final. ! fantastic, (except I had Adelaide tickets all through the season at 6-1 and they were hot fav today) oh dear........ Then thought ok can get all that back on Verry Elleegant , the grand NZ mare in the Queen Elizabeth today as thought there was an obvious form change when she beat Addeyebb last start in the Ranvet. Wrong !! there goes another 350 lol... Forgotten Highway even being in a NZ Cup on just 6 career wins , seems a joke. must of been paying $100 against Allstars???

The Queen Elizabeth Stakes has been won for a second time by the Pommie visitor ADDYEBB this afternoon. He also beat VE last year in the $4mill race. Verry Elleegant tried very hard and after pulling very hard early in the contest and throwing her head around, and getting shuffled back, she still raced up there 4 wide, to try and haul in Addyebb as they came into home straight. The addition of blinkers probably helped him stave off her challenge. Verry Elleegant did NZ proud !!!, and picked up 3/4 of $million for second. (and she did beat Addyebb in the Ranvet last start). What a courageous horse she is.

I hope you are true there Chief. Another great result hopefully. I thought the bloke was banned from betting in NZ? Therefore someone was dealing/ dealt with Kerr gambling issue? How would the RIU keep up with gambling addicts going overseas to bet? trace on computer maybe but is that legal? Forgotten Highway 30 starts for 6 wins prior to Sept 2019 for the Kerr stable. Past year and a half racing in the Wild west WA 24 starts for 6 wins . so about the same record for him overall.

Don't worry that is just scare mongering that is trying to build a hateful picture. Pups in a litter all look the same except for the occasional 'runt', the last one out, who usually gets special care. (any dog breed) From what I've seen the dogs (greys) are treated well and Love to Run !! people have fun , the dogs have fun. I have never raced one but was involved in vet after harness racing and we homed many dogs that weren't able to race. I picked up heaps for 'student vets' to spey/ castrate as practise for their careers and GAP (greyhound Adoption Program) found people to take them on afterthat. Also some great surgeons saved some , Dr Richard Eaton-Wells every day fixing toes and breaks in surgery and I found the greyhound folk to be very caring. Good Luck for a bright racing future.