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You are arguing AGAINST a feature of your New Zealand harness racing though Brodster. Yes even away from the Main centres of Yonkers, Meadowlands and that the American racing virtually has the same drivers (all pro's with thousands of drives each mostly) and even here in Brisbane the same thing is happening . same drivers every race, same horses every week. And SO, as you accurately said on occasion , It all becomes a BIT Boring !! all the races look the same. I hardly watch any of them . Aus and Usa harness racing Is/are Boring. You have such variety there. much More Interesting . the grass racing , there's amateur drivers even, left and right, up and down.... excellent stuff . I still watch a bit of it after 30 years lol..... The drivers do get fined don't they ?? have seen Maurice, Mango, CJD, and Paul Nairn was fined recently for not trying apparently. ?? pick on the old boys they do ?? 😆😄 get some more kids out there like Carter and Crystal and that going great guns... old boys need there rest these days 😁

Sam Ottley very close to driving the Quaddie.. After that narrow loss to Mo'unga by that neck margin pegged back late on , she then drove the last 3 winners of the day . The Quaddie just over $1000 too with Mo'unga there NZ TAB?.. it says on the HRNz website . Quaddie only paid $180 sportsbet . just shows how small the 'pools' are in Oz on the Nz trots.

About to go at Waimate Cup. 'Mo'unga Day 'has arrived at last and he sure did finish well his last runs. has come in from $2.80 into $2.40 on SportsBet so is attracting interest. I think Sam Ottley driving well on the grass , and Smoke On The Water had won here before so might opt for him . Walt might be on his old favourite Homebush Lad . let em' rip !!!

when one goes a bit psycho crazy ?? >>

Freda is it possible to just ride a race-horse with the rider not being able to take both hands off the rein's ?. the rule in harness is you cannot have the reins in one hand and the whip in the other. A rein in each hand at all times. Therefore you are only tap, tap, tap tapping them with the whip still in a same hand as a rein. and the horses poor bum doesn't get hit hard at all consequently. Could the jockeys just tap tap tap on the shoulder? keeping the crop in a rein hand ? and that would stop any hurt to the animal (and Thomass posting more of those not so nice flank photo's) they could still 'slap' for noise on the shoulder while riding hands and heels ??

The animal abuse in China is on such a massive scale it makes Japanese whaling look like casual Sunday fisherman. Bears are in cages so tight for 'medicinal ' purposes and all that sort of thing and farming livestock husbandry is atrocious. You wouldn't send them a horse for all the tea in China . (Tea is mainly India anyway 😁) the human rights abuse in China is Staggering. they don't look after themselves properly let alone the animals , and lives are dime a dozen to the 'authorities'. anyone speaks out about it/anything are detained and sent to Massive internment camps , formed in about 2017 to date and are currently holding millions , for 'Re-Education purposes' as the government listed reason.🙄 when really they are just slave work camps . Appalling on a scale greater than WW2 Germany. The horse conditions must be quite bad , and you would/could/should not sell the lovely animals from beautiful NZ into such a strange and bizarre ending that they are meeting in China.

Looked like every other race finish to a Group race with them all doing their best.

he's doing fantastic and bringing them (low class horses) through the grades too. and a GROUP 1 this week too with the Great Northern Oaks. a very impressive effort. All You Need Is Me was super impressive and could have a 'Milwood Nike' winning type of year , sweeping all the Fillies races. Is that the first Group 1 win for Carter do you know Brodster? or Ranga might know. think Blair was driving Krug all the time ? and TonyH won the GN Derby driving it (when it bolted that time)

I see your ENTAIN TAB mate Big Dean has taken the Derby again TABman . as he tries to strengthen the North with stacks of horses at Barry's. COLD CHISEL (now that's a good Aussie name 😉) winning the Great northern Derby well , after beautiful trip in the trail from good draw. QLDer Dean will be beaming with delight ! and thinking NZ Derby now , as he won both the Derbies with good horse 'Merlin' last year. Great to see he has Put the 'North Island' back on the NZ map ! 😅 (great wins in the Oaks and FFA to those firey Southerners though with Adore Me's foal for Carter🏆 and the potential Akld and NZ Cup winner in 'Don't Stop Dreaming' 🏆)

thought they were driving very passively at Auckland too Brodster. Republican Party should of been up outside Don't Stop Dreaming (who was in the parked out position) at the quarter , when they really quickened up . they are Fast Class Cup horses. and dawdled down the back straight in 29 seconds ,second last quarter and NO ONE went up to look at Kango ? before turning for home even? Absolute Gift for Natalie just cruised on past Kango up the home straight . Blair gave his horse no chance of getting anywhere near them . ? Natalie Not so Lucky in the GN Derby though. ? stable-mate road block lol...😄😅

We still have 4 TAB's operating in Australia.🙄. not a hope there will be a National pool. State governments all want their cut of the HUGE Gambling pie so there is fierce rivalry. Each State of Australia virtually runs itself via state Government. we rarely have Federal help. so the states are like 7 different countries really. at the moment Entain runs On-line Bookmaking and controls 'Ladbrokes' and 'Neds' brands on-line in Australia to make their money. SUPER-TAB or S-Tab is Victoria and ACT customers U-TAB (formally Tattsbet then U-Bet until recently ) is Queensland, Tasmania, South Australia, and Northern Territory customers combined. TAB-Corp is NSW. and they run/own SKY racing. Interestingly, advertising of Ladbrokes and Neds is banned in NSW pubs where TAB is , and they actually pull the plug on SKY to them after ENTAIN had made a deal with the NSW Hotel Association that TAB-Corp didn't like. (They are all desperate for all the losing dollars lol...😂 it's totally crazy here the gambling market lol) WA-Tab in west Australia is state government owned and is separate again. They also run the on-line betting service of TAB-TOUCH ....which has the same divvies as you get in New Zealand , so perhaps that is the one that is connected to you guys??? . Sportsbet, TAB-Corp and ENTAIN all tried to buy WA TAB for a billion , during COVID, but it fell through and ENTAIN bought NZ TAB instead.

Speaking of the owner/trainer/driver of Trotters taking on the professional drivers. The 3 of them in race 2 at Addington tonight nearly ran the TRIFECTA against all the Pro's.🏆 Ross Houghton (1st) , Alan Clark (3rd) and Murray Howard (4th) all doing a great job in the big field of trotters with only Tim Williams on the favourite 'Father Time' getting amongst them. thought the First4 paying under $2000 was a bit smallish ...

You gotta get em moving Thomass mate . Bit of Aussie training . (luv your work Hugh 🥰) And a Bit of quiet Thomass Nz training

plenty of owners have driven their trotters over the years. Wonder if you remember trotter Dragon's Pride. He was a handy young horse by Game pride that in the South Island won quite a few as a 3 year old . Bought for Big Money by top Auckland Committee man Noel Taylor , and the Prime Minister Sir Robert 'piggy' Muldoon !! National party he was from memory and PM for a lot of years. they put the horse with Roy and Barry Purdon and it wouldn't fire a shot 🫤. a Huge surprise. So Noel took it on himself , and drove it, and trotted to some good results and then 2nd in the Rowe Cup to Basil Dean I think, where he had started using Wolfie, then Tom Knowles, and Tony Herlihy, Jim Cole, even Graeme Harris had a crack (Harris still racing horses here in Brissy) and they got a few good results here and there. *Was funny at the time as virtually no-one improved anything on Roy .. but Dragon's Pride did.

often the jocks pop out and have a look on the 'Fast' Aus tracks too TABman . I'm pretty sure they're looking for the Fast-lane up the home straight. tiz all. like is it better to come at em' 6m out or 10 m out , or just stick to the fence sort of thing ....🏇🏇💰 Funny true story. We have little problem at the trots with the surface but in my days training, I was at Albion Park every day training horses on the main track , and mentioned to the track staff one day, that I though the camber flattened a little just at the 400m when you were trying to wind your horse up a bit...... and next second the Fricken Big grader was out there and 'getting the banking' going lol. thought I was at Daytona Speedway on the Saturday night !! lol 😅. (but not winning still 😪) Jimmy Johnson or Earnhardt still getting the money lol 😂

Not sure who you're flying as Wingman for .. but I can say I have found TABman to be very knowledgeable and quite forthright on his observations and experience in the industry and very positive on his outlook for NZ racing. and not using sarcasm at all (un-like your great Thomass man). perhaps you are his Wingman. spotting the problems for him lol😂 watch out for that extra whip strike or 2 in those big races. anyway TABman has great manners compared to the many snipers and poppy choppers that frequent these sites.. and IMO you are all right in a way. Sure .. some of the tracks have good patches and bad patches .nothing new there. You just get the track staff to deal with it best they can. Sure... sometimes the tote figures or race attendances aren't great ... But sometimes they Are. and sometimes the racing is great too. Now ... back to the Footy lol. 🥱😉

haha yeah ,,those 2 on the inside of Marky Boy there picked up over 1/4 million just last weekend for the BIG Entain boss as well at Menangle. That will help the Canterbury Breeders as BIG Dean will be back (would of been back recently at the Canterbury yearling sales ) and buying up a Heap more of the nice Southern Stock... Merlin having a crack at the race by Grins soon? mad if they don't.

here's the New generation. Good to see the North getting some Derby revenge these days lol 😅

yeah part of a great run for the Southerners in the supposed Great 'Northern' Derby. Saw a few live ones while in Auckland. and always won by the Southerners !! All 6 of them. 'Amrbro Wings ' at big odds I think, won it the year after Matai Dreamer for a BIG SOUTHland Double for the Milne clan of the deep south , way up in the North ..lol 🏆. followed by Melton Monarch, Mighty Me , Mel's Boy, Royden Glen and finally Nardinski over the following years . southern invaders everywhere like white ants 😆

Reckon Blair was just trying to drive with horse straight while galloping to not interfere with anyone. John Dunn did smile at his own good fortune though 😁. Isn't it Tim Williams his main driver mate anyway? The 2nd race was funny with the $1.60 favourite from the pole, not able to come out of the mobile at all well... for Ben Hope and ended up 5 back the fence . Never much chance from there. Ricky May couldn't be bothered waiting and 'carting it up' late in the race either, while driving on the HOPE team stable-mate and ran on well himself for 2nd place. Sam Ottley too good these days though . always great to back her on the grass.

These guys picked Up 'Dreams Are Free' for $60,000 ? . wow ! what a great buy 💰 . being by Captain Treacherous and all . ......older half brother 'Don't Stop Dreaming' may have been unraced at the time of those sales which might have helped with bargain price.

maybe this one lol ? to win the GN Derby a while back . (if you mean potential Derby Winners ) Ranga probably too young to remember this bloke 😎.

Think you are on the right track with that. Jack Trainor is in the Magic Team as well. Punters in Aus pretty much ignoring other runners when these lads are up to their tricks. Race 6 coming up see's the Seaton Grima runner blowing from $2.20 fav out to $3.40 and the Grimson horse Lou's Dream firming $4.60 in to $2.70 . Probably a good price with Hart on ??? everything else I'd double figures. Seems another GRIM win coming Up.

I took 80-1 in a PICK 4 earlier with him. The next 3 are a sneaky NZ horse Grimson chance at 25-1 for the treble Races 5 , 6 and 7. YouTakeMyBreathAway NZ into Lou's Dream NZ into Mister Robin Hood NZ. Cam Hart driving Dieing Art in race 5 , instead of Grimson's is a worry , so should take it too.

You walked this one Chief ? Not a lot of grip by the look of it ? Ellerslie might be better.?