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yes, he won a Rowe Cup at Auckland off 10m 1981 . was there that night to see the great horse go . we had one in it and it ran last lol. It was retirement race for No Response, and he went out with a Bang for your buck😁💰 . The Rowe Cup being NZ's feature trot. No Response won just about every Big trot going and incredibly didn't race till he was a 6 year old. winning 12 of his 16 starts including the Interdominion Grand Final, in just his second year of racing , as a spritely 7 year old. You're thinking of the Interdominion Grand Final at Addington 1979, where he roared home from the back of the field to beat the 2 Australian trotters, and claim a fabulous win for New Zealand. weaving his way through field, as you said. a fabulous trotter. Richard Brosnan moved to Aus 2018 , so to train with his son Emmett in Victoria, and they won the trot Interdominon Trot Final once again, training the winner Maori Law just 3 years ago ,along with Emmett . 42 years after his first one with No Response. Maori Law driven to victory by the Late great Greg Sugars at Menangle .

He's a quality horse though. and has won twice 2nd up so might rev up ok for you next start, all going well. I think anyone chasing Via Sistina bound to get a gut -buster ( at least the last 200m these days lol 😉.) But does One race Run at 1400m first up and just powering up the last 400m or so home straight flatten them ? Ceolwulf should be ok ? . he's up to 19 race starts now , so gotta a little bit of experience now . (a few preps) Does get out to 2000m and race competitively , so is a fairly tough bugger anyway. very nice horse. Excellent stuff with a Grey Way win BTW . good on you👍🏆. The very first horse I ever heard of as a kid in NZ. My dad being one of the 'small Transistor radio' Sat brigade and taking a TAB treble every Saturday , and tuning in . so he would get a leg with Grey Way every now and then and always say was the Best horse going. La Mer and Uncle Remus were the 2 other ones that seemed to be tops at the time , that I remember. The North had Delightful Lady at the trots . Holding out all the Southern Raiders every 2nd week or so it seemed. Think she won about 40 or so at Alexandra Park.

Tick . yes. It's why we have Handicaps to slow the best down a tickle compared to their opponents lol. don't know if it's 'fair' or not lol. it's up to the Handicapper. as far as track conditions go, I realize you are an expert on it, but still YOU CAN't CONTROL the WEATHER. it's an outdoor sport . so is affected by weather time to time. Melbourne Cup has had many 'soggy' editions. well yes Waller has absolutely MILLIONS of dollars of stock . Doesn't Mean he should call the shots as when they should race the meetings ? . He accepts for races SLATED for certain dates . He has to have them ready for them dates or scratch if he's 'Unhappy' with the conditions on the day. MANY many have scratched in the past with downgrades. Owners or trainers concerned their horse wouldn't perform or whatever. it was a sunny day there at Randwick Saturday. him being 'Scared' , was just of Losing those races with his gazillion dollar horses. Of course he is trying to swing things in his favour. Is only natural for a person in that position with all that 'responsibility' you mention. Mr Zhang really needs the money Chief. 😅. worth 1/2 a Billion at last look. so Mr Waller probably wants to look out well, for his purchases. He paid $ AUS 5.9 million for Via Sistina even. We used to just try and a few 2nds at the Trots and get $1000 each time (for 2nd place) for the owners to cover their next month of training fee 🤣😉 . for the baker, or the muffler man , otr the cabinet maker owners. their pride and joy horse they would get Photos with on Sundays at home, the horse worth about between $1000 and $5000 lol 🤣. unlikely to hurt themselves anyway. If Sydney raced today Monday ( a POOR thing for betting agencies and Punters ) just to suit Waller groaning about a wet track , that would totally ridiculous. he's not that special to make a call like that ? . The TRACK would race the Same today as it did Saturday anyway . wouldn't of dried up heaps this time of year as is still WINTER. air temp fairly cool . (Bris is nice though 👍😉 24 today and beautiful 27 tomorrow. great stuff 🌞)

hahaha . I've been around a while mate. My tipping is doing ok . One bet last weekend Jimmy Recard. and 3 bets this weekend were all on Mark Purdon with lots of Multis at AKLD Friday night. He won all 3 races he contested. so you could be right. and should stick to harness. I took a few Akuta multi's into Via Sistina Saturday and others as ONLY ever bet on the very BEST mate. (horse or trainer or driver in what ever race I might be looking at) so have exceptional success rate . But thanks for the respect. Yeah plenty of people 'Bag rides' every race like you have here. There can Be only ONE WINNER. (barring DH) You can grizzle , as well as the jockey and everyone else, Didn't worry me . was probably 4th best horse in race and ran 4th. So seemed normal lol. Via Sistina is the AUSTRALIAN RACEhorse of the SEASON. so very 'hard to beat' in other words. hahaha😋 A gazillion races at Randwick see horses sit back to the home straight corner and use the arc geometry of the corner like Ceolwulf did to switch outside the other runners , and come on down the outside of field. Happens all the bloody time . Must of seen it a thousand times. Mo'unga even did that at Addington the other night 🤣 . A common tactic. You call it a foul/poor ride so good for you . Won't be the last horse ever, to switch wide turning for home and run 4th. Next race please ? hahaha

Well the Golden Slipper usually run with a bit of rain about in the Autumn each year. Is a good thing . The heavy tracks used to mean upsets were possible . The best horses can't use their absolute speed to win and it slows them up a bit . Gives others a chance. People used to enjoy the odd Bog as could back a few 'Mudders' . Not any more by the sound of it 😂 If you had your way Chief , the Tracks would be manicured to the nth degree , and racing would only be Won by the best horse Every race everywhere. No doubt Mr Waller probably agrees with you. Mr Waller has a superior outfit though , and is excellent trainer, so coped ok, so wins anyway with Via Sistina and Autumn Glow. and other stable reps went good as well in their races. Even not on their favoured track surfaces or distance. and they still ran good sectionals you blokes are saying , as are the best in the land. So I still say he should be appreciating it (Royal Randwick and winning Races) instead of groaning , and trying to 'doctor' things in his favour. and saying he felt for the safety of his horses and rubbish like that , to try and get his way. Just getting too Precious in his old age. Hope you not as well Chief lol 😎😂🍾 But really ? Royal Randwick just kept for certain times of year? , just so there's a few less clods potentially ?? com'on mate. it's one of the great tracks of the world. Professional people prepare it for a Lot of Money. It's like saying Don't use Ellerslie in case a horse leaves on hoofmark on it or something 😉

the 3rd horse is the Sydney Cup winner too. Arapaho has 2 first up wins too over this shorter distance and is an Excellent Wet track horse as well. Wallers 2 quinella Mares in that are 'Next Level' good. almost Best in Australia. or actually are. So Ceolwulf was Only the 4th best horse in that race. and ran 4th. And also Never won first up in 4 Attempts previously. so would of been a Poor bet in that class WINX G1. field. But you could of had a shot at the first 4( in order almost) of $728 excellent FIRST FOUR divvie though. 🏇💰

Yes . across the board you see Less and less horses being bred. and not even the broodmares that appear to have nice bloodlines , are not wanted anymore at times. A friend here has a very nice Broodmare who left the Redcliffe Oaks winner amongst others, but only breeds her now because of the $10,000 first race Win Bonus being offered , otherwise wouldn't even bother he said. and she h is quite good producing winners. This is because Thoroughbred and Standardbred owners are having to be the Richer and richer ones in society , because the cost of keeping and training a race-horse, have just got too high , to enjoy the contest of racing one these days. The breeding is expensive too, and there's not enough Cheap Stallions to breed too anymore. And if you did , you are going to get mugged in the races by the Bettor's Delights or the Capt T's who are $20,000 + stallions. bought by Stonewall , or Shannon, or other millionaires. I think thoroughbreds are a lot more expensive than that to breed and race as well? Cost of breaking in ? and potentially not even getting to race ? and so comes the Age long 'worry of moving on the slow/old /retired or uncompetitive' ones. It is a HUGE worry. So there's no hiding that a few will find the Pet food man. As I mentioned earlier , A few QLD ones of millionaires Seymour and Grant Dixon , who are riding the crest of A Wave , with the Best Harness horse in the world earning Millions ,BUT still have several geldings that get 'shipped off to Tas' , sold to those cheap bloodstock companies who make a buck from Penny shareholders. to race out of Yoles dirt cheap. and finish their careers there sight un-seen. real Head in the sand stuff knowing you sealed their fate . Except a few like the lady in question here , speak up and some Improvements are made to their living conditions while still racing. A concerned neighbour got the RSPCA to check Yoles horses constantly .Was All clear to race as fed, watered and rugged ok by the young staff , and they would even have a farrier (I hope) . Notice even 'Smooth Deal ' made his way there somehow from NZ eventually. A group 1 winner in NZ for Mark Purdon . (4 wins from 8 x 2 year old starts around 2019) . his career sees him end in the wilderness and about to be on the list earmarked for Greyhound tucker one of these days. The Kaikoura harness bloke was probably embarrassed/sad that time, with the 17 odd mal-nourished horses. Paddocks have to be many hectares at times if sustaining a herd . he must of miscalculated and they ran out of feed over a few weeks/months. All through Australia there are owners that run large groups of their stock in huge paddocks . One bloke I trained for ran 20, on a whole mountain. Took us a long time to find them one time. They get ticks and things , and need a good wash lol. but seem to enjoy a bush 'natural ' run for a few weeks a year. was mainly the young and/or the old or the rehabilitating running wild though. There's so many funny stories with them type of things. a little better outcome than a can of tucker for 'Fido' at times though. (unless injured or suffering in some way)

Absolutely. There is so much things that go on . Horse meat is more accepted in some countries than in others. for human consumption. Pet food has been around for ages. There are 2 horses abbotoirs in Aus , and the process is quite traumatic for most. Horses and People . as they have to accept that animals meet their demise here . Horses being a magnificent companion /working/ recreation animal to us all in these forums (at some stage) so are really effected by the goings on . Like the Galah has expressed and the lady expressing concerns that this thread was based on for horse welfare. Curious even showing empathy/sympathy for race horses under race conditions many times , in the great Whip debate. I towed a galloper to that horse abbotoir near brisbane once. Meramist . Actually a slaughterhouse more than an abbotoir with the difference being protocols that involve procedure and stock whether being processed for human consumption or pet food. I am plagued by the memory going there, as a favour to the horses elderly owner. the horse with a irreparable knee injury , that was making horse uncomfortable , and no chance of any riding future. Was a traumatic experience, as a Semi arrived on site while I was there, with must of been 100 Brumbies onboard. Horses in holding pens with a legs swinging in the air bone snapped off and all sorts of trauma inflicted animals. I could never go to that place again ever , as some sights are better unseen. Once you've worked hard to keep horses in Tip Top condition for years it's Impossible on your brain to see them like that. as the Galah described with Bobby calves above some things have an effect.. Tasmania harness has a harsh reality that the stock of the Yole stables (horses too slow to race on the mainland) were being sent to Tassie to complete their racing days . very cheap training . very harsh conditions weather and stabling wise . Ben Yole (one time leading Aus trainer by number of race wins , ) from having 60 of the 90 runners competing at some meetings and stupid things like that. From must of been near 100 horses on the property . the logistics make it impossible to treat them the way most stables would. They all fed and rugged and that , and raced until they just couldn't earn another cent. so were chopped up for a Greyhound trainer mate down the road. This system seems very un-ethical ? , but bloodstock agents were still putting horses with him . as they have $10 per week shareholders to 'look after' . Aaron Bain Bloodstock and Summit Bloodstock still place horses with him to THIS day 😧. They even race 3 year old Midnight Miki (in 'penny' shares with others ) at Mark Purdon's famous NZ Stable . Midnight Miki is One of the favs for the NZ Derby soon . So have a whole range of horses everywhere. that ultimately meet their demise at the Yoles or something similar. I see a lot of old QLD runners there and that , once they are not earning here. that these Bloodstock agents pick up for $10 owner shares ( they go a few seconds slower in Tas racing generally) is it ethical ? someone pays training Fees I spose, but with so many horses and owners , these bloodstock agents have ways of clearing unwanted stock .some will end up at the slaughterhouse . ( Gallopers trainers can clear the syndicated race-Mares in Broodmare sales for example. as happened with Melody Belle and that.) so there are other ways of clearing stock out of training. footnote: Ben Yole and brother Tim currently disqualified 18months for horse cruelty in Tas. (some nasty things they were doing that are quite horrid) so horse's all race in their elderly fathers name Wayne, as trainer currently . so there are ways around things things. Tas Racing limited the stable starters number (from any stable) to 4 runners per race to stop the 'Flood of Runners' strategy they used for a few years to load and win races, but involved match fixing.

We just cut the nuts out , when breaking in the yearlings in half the time 😋. that way their nuts won't drive you nuts when they start playing up when they get older and colty. the One bloody stallion on the place out of 20 horses , who all behaved impeccably (except for a few tantrums at feed time sometimes waiting for their tucker) and the stallion would be the nutter trying to bite ya all the time. He might not of been nuts , but certainly drove me nuts 😁 . and plenty of bruises dished out too . 'Sammy Shark' I called him. would love to of ripped his nuts off 🤣

wasn't that you at the Salvo's last week ? A few Lazy boys make there way there going cheap, when the old boys pass away that have lived in em' for a few years. You just have to check they're still not in it before taking it home. Funerals not as cheap as they used to be.

After the first up wins ( of many this Season ) for Autumn Glow and Via Sistina. All Chris Waller could do was Moan and groan about the track at Randwick. saying shite like "Shouldn't be used during Winter for 'Inferior' horse" s . should be kept well for Only his good ones coming back in the Spring lol. Walked the track yesterday and was' Scared' for his horses chances today he said on the Heavy 10. wanted them to go on Monday instead. Well Mr Waller, August set records for the wettest Winter Sydney ever. So the track was gunna be Wet. you just have to get on with it or scratch mate. Or go back to NZ and get used to it again 😅😋 BUT we can't keep it just for you Mr Waller. there are OTHER trainers , even though he Rarely recognizes them with any credits at all. Maybe he wants to be a Ben Yole and have the entire Field in races? . The bloke is under so much pressure that he barely smiled after Autumn Glow and Via Sistina's wins today . Just expects to win All the time now. And the track should just have to race when he says? to suit his 100's of horses . Probably the worst interviews i've seen ever Post race after big races.

Very well said Mr Galah . There's nothing wrong with people advocating for horse welfare. It keeps the Cheats you mentioned in 'chec'k , and gives hope that some race horses can go on to be a loved pet afterwards ( after their racing careers) I just went to the Brisbane Show last week , and there were several classes of showjumpers , with all the young ladies with beautifully turned out (aged) thoroughbreds . where the Announcer introduced each one as the riders put their mounts over a minute of jumps , saying how many races they had , how many they won and money won too. example : this next competitor had 50 starts and won 8 races for Peter Moody and $200,000 retiring in 2018 . so on and so forth. They all jumped beautifully too and was many clear rounds . We used to give out our treasured old 'Pacing geldings' to girls at Pony Clubs upon retiring from the track . Old trotters not good enough for the EKKA lol 🤣😁 but are beautiful quiet old things and ideal for the young ladies doing a barrel race over a few seconds or whatever at a Gymkana . And it really puts a smile on your face seeing them do it.

BOAY Legend Mo'Unga Strikes !! . roaring home from last. to get the chocolates in the Group 3 Maurice Holmes Vase at Addington tonight . That Field had No NZ Cup quality horses except himself though , so was intitled to Win really. If gets a sit in behind leader in the NZ Cup , could be a place chance for sure.🤔 Wouldn't want to have it again though . Sitting last to the quarter was Robbie Close ,going 5 wide turning in, but got up on the line . Must of gone a bit better than 55 seconds home. But they walked before that. Good on ya Robbie , and Regan Todd too. Has a beautiful horses there in Big Mo' to work alongside his Marketplace Derby star. Could have a Big year ? . Hope Borriso'kane comes back too. He's another good one.

Perhaps the Cup is being run for too much money ? There's not enough Local Open class talent to hold out the Aussie rivals and a huge chunk of the money is just going overseas. Victoria cut their Stakes from $500,000 to $350,000 for the Hunter Cup this year . with the drop in revenue biting. The BIG trot of The Great Southern Star and the soon upcoming Time honoured Victoria Cup have both reduced from $300,000 to $250,000 this season. Perhaps NZ should of done the same ?? to stop as many Horses arriving from overseas for the big prizes .? Swayzee and Just Believe cutting a swathe out of the NZ pockets the past 2 years already. There's some great racing Coming Up in NOVEMber soon though . Check this Out ! from the HRV web. Next Thursday (August 28) is the cut-off to nominate for the $NZ1mil Group 1 IRT NZ Trotting Cup at $NZ400,000 Group 1 Renwick Farms Dominion Trot – both run at Addington on November 11. Aussies won both races last year with Swayzee successfully defending his NZ Cup crown and Just Believe posting his last Group 1 win in the Dominion. With the likes of Leap To Fame, Swayzee, Arcee Phoenix and probably Keayang Chucky slated to make the trip this year, the Aussie presence will be stronger than ever. Those two features are the backbone of a massive 11 days of racing and three feature Addington meetings, where more than $NZ4 million in prize money is up for grabs, including $NZ1.26mil for open-class pacers, $NZ500,000 for open-class trotters and $NZ925,000 for 3YO pacing fillies. The feature race schedule is: OPEN PACERS 11 November Junior FFA $60,000 – Group 2 11 November IRT New Zealand Cup $1,000,000 – Group 1 14 November New Zealand FFA $200,000 – Group 1 OPEN TROTTERS 11 November Renwick Farms Dominion $400,000 – Group 1 14 November New Zealand Trotting FFA $100,000 – Group 1 3YO PACERS 14 November The Velocity $500,000 21 November New Zealand Pacing Derby $300,000 – Group 1 3YO PACING FILLIES 11 November Nevele R Fillies Final $200,000 21 November New Zealand Pacing Oaks $225,000 – Group 1 3YO TROTTERS 14 November The Ascent $500,000 21 November New Zealand Trotting Derby $200,000 – Group 1 3YO TROTTING FILLIES 21 November New Zealand Trotting Oaks $140,000 – Group 1 4YO PACERS 21 November The Christian Cullen $125,000 – Group 1 TROTTING MARES 21 November Continental Event Hire ‘Trotting Mares’ $60,000 – Group 2

You people panic over nothing. It's Winter. The Star horses aren't racing yet. It's nearly Spring so some better horses and fields will turn up soon. Last month would of been dark and cold and rainy in New Zealand. Why race your horse then lol. But shine the light mate . Turn on your torch. Get out of the warm bed. You won't know yourself in another 4 weeks. Just be Patient , instead of bagging the Winter harness product . The racing tonight was excellent at Waikato but you blokes have gone past the point of even appreciating your horses anymore. very sad. I picked 6 out of 7 winners without even trying.

Yeah , but they'll still give something. They have a Monopoly on the NZ betting by banning Off shore betting , so Entain /TAB have a good thing going and will contribute past this 'Dreaded Five years thing ' that yourself and Brodie go on with all the time . You yourself said the Share price for the Company was doing Very Well this year ? doubled in fact. Chief said they have set aside $100,000,000 in some form , in case the AUSTRAC Federal case , costs them something in fines . And thinks its just small change in the Billion (s) they clear annually globally. They won't let Racing die in NZ . Gallop or trots. Some fellow will will keep it going. A Shame Dean Shannon left , a great racing supporter . But Entain are replacing 10 or so Executives worldwide. so will be Business as Usual. hopefully with less of the Money Laundering, but man, that this is Hard to Stop . Although as you say the Race Stakemoney might be reduced , from reduced punting revenue on racing these days.

yeah . for sure . Don't know where he is now?. his last race start was > Anthony Butt took him to a Great 3rd in the Miracle Mile in early March ( $100,000 prize for that) Was 3rd to Don Hugo 1st , Leap To Fame2nd and Swayzee was 4th. in very fast time. So Tact Mcleod right there in the Biggest race going mixing it with the 3 Best Australian horses ( of all time nearly ) I'd be Preparing him Very Carefully somewhere. Should Win a few BIG ones ?

Yes Hunter Cup (our equal of the Nz Trotting Cup in Australia) is run late January . and after the horses prepare for the Miracle Mile or the rich lead up races to it . This year Republican Party 3rd, Tact McLeod 4th and Don't Stop Dreaming 7th for Nz in Hunter Cup . (behind Swayzee and Larry ) Swayzee actually beating his half brother on that occasion. Might be a good idea to use the Auckland Cup as the Hunter Cup lead up 2 weeks before that race is run You say ?? Not a bad idea as Tact Mcleod for Nz was using the Bendigo Cup and the Shepperton Cup last January, as his lead up's. maybe it comes down to transport planes, NZ commitments for trainers, and that sort of thing ?. NZ has a Great record in our Summer Hunter Cup . Winning an incredible 15 of the last 30 editions or so. fantastic. Last one to Win was the great horse LAZARUS for Marky Boy 2018 though. you NZ blokes running weak since ? 😉

Well it does have a change for sure. My years in NZ harness went to 6 Auckland Cups in the row . All FEBRUARY . and the lead up to the Interdominion every year run soon after . Used to be a GREAT Event. so I saw Sapling, Delightful Lady x 2 (beating Lord Module twice) Gammalite , Armalight, Enterprise and Roydon Glen all win the Cup Live. and Marvel at every one of them still. even saw Young Quinn live in one of them for his retirement race. fin 4th to the Lady. The Auckland Pacing Cup then changed to the Christmas Carnival Date from 1987 till 2005. Then it was off to a MARCH date from 2006 to 2015 and finishing with the 'Christen Me' win. Back to December for 2015 to 2020 . Allstars winning the lot . 'Have Faith In Me', 'Dream About Me, Vincent, Turn it Up , Self Assured and Amazing Dream in the ALLstars Retirement Race ( Natalie retired as Trainer running 2nd on Spankem ) One of the greatest races ever run at Alexandra Park. Back to May then as a BIG FINALE of the season for 3 years 2022 to 2024 with Self Assured , Akuta and Better Eclipse for Australia !! defeating Self Assured to end the ALLstars DECADE LONG winners list . amazing stable. Horses are tired by then and NZ is cold and dark in May. They now finish with the Roy Purdon Memerial early May so the good horses get their Winters rest . Or go to the Interdominion here , where it's still 20 degrees lol in July lol. So Republican Party is back at the December New Years Eve date 2024 , with Thousands of People on HOLIDAYS in the nice NZ weather that time of year. And can go to the TROTS and have a GREAT NIGHT out !!!!!!!!!!! makes perfect sense !!! well done HRNZ on a Fabulous year of harness racing (yet again)

If you're talking for the sake of the Trainers and drivers having a day off to celebrate New Year , then that is well and good Not to race New Years Eve. But if you work with horses for a Living , there is NO days off Mikey. Horsepeople work every day with their horses. And most don't care if it's New Year or Not. They race to the Season. The date for the AUCKLAND CUP is Perfect. Dalgety's latest good horse PROVES it. Republican Party WON the Invercargill Cup as a nice lead into the Auckland Cup 10 days later that he also won . This was after being freshened after the NZ Cup week, where he was a brilliant 3rd. dipped out in NZ FFA. During January February NZ's best should tackle Australia as done so competently by great NZers in the past for Hunter Cup, Miracle Mile, support races like Ballarat Cup etc, etc. Republican Party 3rd in both Aus starts. Then home to NZfor April for the Waikato Betcha slot million, then Taylor Mile, Messenger, and the big finale of the Roy Purdon Memorial Group 1's. Republican Party Won 2 of those 4 races and picked up another $160,000 for a perfect autumn season of racing. The Interdominion in July next 3 years gives them a WINTER option. Jonny Cox the ONly kiwi with any Balls to take on Leap To Fame this year with PINSEEKER. got 2nd in a heat to him , but exploded after that unfortunately. Other South Islanders have tried to train to suit the North Island harness season too, We Walk By Faith (Taylor Mile Winner), Mo'Unga, Rakero Rocket ,Don't Stop Dreaming all competing well at Auckland . Merlin and Sooner the Better probably the best of the Northerners locals trying to hold them out . But WATCH OUT mate. AKUTA is back in town . So there's a summary of the Season for Open Class Pacers of NZ for you So When would You Run the AUCKLAND Cup then ???. (please don't say 'never' because you don't like Auckland, Cardigan Bay and many famous horses have won the Auckland Cup and is a fine tradition to have)

there's Still hope for you Ranga. there's No age limit in NZ to win Gold mate. 2030 Commonwealth Games could see you On the Podium with the Brodster , CHiefy and the Galah !! and you could celebrate like the 1974 Team did Winning Gold for NZ 50 years ago !!!

Graham May !!!. What a Win for New Zealand that was . fantastic stuff. golden days. I went to the weightlifting at the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games 2018 and it is Super Impressive. forgot that Precious McKenzie was lifting for Pommieland in 74' at Christchurch , so I got that wrong. But yes great to see him getting Gold for his new Homeland too 4 years later . Hey, we had a good lifter once . Super heavyweight like Graham May , who got the Gold at the LA Olympics DEAN LUKIN lifted half the 'Earth' to snatch the Gold from no-where. How do they do it .

Oh no . Remember the face . But can't pick the name Ranga . Not you is it ? 😆 All of New Zealand will remember this bloke though ? the Pocket dynamo . Bigger than Sir Castleton even 🤣

NBA only has short break . they'll be back Oct 21st . even earlier for preseason games. Good to see NZ qualified for World Cup next year . That is the worlds biggest sporting event on the planet , so very nice they are part of it. Think Australia qualified recently too. The Commonwealth Games has felt the Financial times Chief. like a lot of sports. Do you remember the Christchurch ones in 1974. some great moments. Nowadays , Victoria aborted Having them next year, when they were spose too, as just can't afford it. So have gone to Glasgow with just 10 Sports being contested in about a years time. Bloody wrecked Gold Coast trotting , taking the beautiful Parklands track 2010. for an athlete village. Brisbane scheduled for the Olympics 2032. It is already ripping the place apart. No stadiums suitable so are trying for Federal funding and trying for big stadium at Victoria Park near the city . a former golf course. Tasmania has gone broke ,has were supposed to build a new stadium for their new AFL team allocation 2027. The costs are ridiculous. A billion dollars for a stadium. gotta be joking. they originally budgeted 375 million . hahaha didn't miss by much then ? the NEW cost has recently jumped from 715million to an estimated 945 million. Just forget it, and use what's around already?. It's people kicking a football around for goodness sake. Brisbane will be a mess after trying to put on an Olympics lol. why not just use SYDNEY again? they built Olympic Park for 2000 Games. And most of the population is there. Infrastructure in place. Too sensible that would be (to share the events between cities)

Future Betting has some advantages. That way you can spread your bets out through the year . And bet for fun too. and/or support a team you like for a considerable amount of the season. Have never bet tennis or golf tournaments in my life as don't know any of the players. and don't follow those sports . But good luck to those that do though. they probably get to know the Good players and 'who can beat who' etc. Here's a recent Example of us picking in Future markets at BOAY even. We did a thread here where poster NoworNever selected all the harness Interdominion and Rising Star a Whole month in advance (in June) of the Actual races. and he would of scored 70-1 for the 3 wins multi . (mine was 2 wins and a 4th from my 3 selections at 100-1) , so only just missed because of a bad draw) the saver I took ran 2nd. But it was Fun Trying. so It works Mikey. And for very little outlay sometimes you can win BIG 👍💰 Here's a dollar one I took a photocopy of to put with my footy cards collection, before collecting when a team I liked upset the EPL big boys a few seasons back. Some future bets you can stash away as the year progresses. 2 NZ Cups ago , I thought AKUTA was a certainty to Win the NZ Cup . so had plenty of future tickets on him through the year . riding on him with multi's from Imperatriz wins and things like that. in the end 300 to win 9000 odd. Alas Swayzee went too well and defeated him . And I got nothing. But only a small outlay and Would of recovered that fairly quickly with a regular $50 bet . So I started this very BOAY thread actually , looking a t the Cup Future markets . and starting off with some AKUTA ones now . He's not a bad type. and if anyone can beat Larry (apart from Swayzee) Mark Purdon is the Man for the job. 👍🏆🏆