mikeynz

Lots of people not sure have whats called sexual disorientation.

I think the original pool was 175000 and they won 140 in the last, I may be incorrect on that though.

By rights BGP should win more than they spend but will they take smart bets ? So the 75000 coming the TABs way might be going the other way, Entain won't worry, dishing out money is there speciality, but for how long ?

Maybe they could build a new one in the centre.

Don't tell anyone, and be a party pooper.

I don't think there has ever been fixed odds on Hong Kong.

Well that's a start to moving forward.

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the bets that are taken are in the last 3 or 4 minutes leading up to a race screening on Trackside. Win and place has always been the most popular form of betting,quinellas also, if everyone as some say are betting on their phones tablets etc etc and getting their odds and info etc etc, then why have odds for anything on Trackside but then to counter that argument, if you show the odds on screen for win, then should also do same for place, there is very good value for many on the gallops, and many times for the grass track trots as well on place betting as opposed to a lot of the harness races with 2 dollar pops winning, a lot of the place money, hardly worth the effort, greyhounds the same, hence the lower percentage from win to place. In some ways the new trackside presentation is good, the older version did have a lot of clutter, I think it needs a bit of tinkering though, showing races and then not screening results, not always knowing which races are coming up, and moving the coverage from 1 channel to the other and not telling, those are little things. Moving to freeview, that is a positive, don't know how many it helps, maybe many who watch may not bet or bet much but it's exposing more people to racing, that can't be bad, it's worked for Cricket this year. You can say people don't watch or aren't watching TV much but they will if you put stuff worth watching, and that's still the number one way to get viewer participation or exposure. Interestingly TVNZ cutting one or two of their most popular programmes does seem a bit counter-productive to me.

Firstly if they change a race to trackside 2, they tell you, about 10 minutes after its run, looking at the betting figures, a lot of the place betting especially in NZ is about 70% in relation to the win pool, not so high in relation to ozzy, rarely have the results. Why have they ignored place betting is a mystery, exotics are a bit different Should have the official time next to race number.

I think you will find the presenters are being muzzled, interesting they are touting for more on course presenters but be better to employ a couple to do some radio work, Entain bought the radio but nothings changed and it's so much easier to give people info on radio , today I note they knock off the radio at 4 45 to cover the warriers game, when a big part of the big races, /Ozzie havnt even started but that's not as bad as it was when the Cricket test were on, they didn't bother at all. Radio and Racing go well together, just the same as Test Cricket. I stand by my comment, they want to drive turnover but I don't believe they could drive a shit barrow.

Having had another look, how hard would it be to display the win / place odds, especially the fixed odds ? No point showing tote odds for greyhounds anyway, one bet and tote can go from 3 30 to 1 90, no one's going to bother , fixed at least you know what ya get. Presenters never mention place odds, each way is very popular. I do like the less clutter on screen but can't be hard to provide all the info needed, top or bottom left corner results you get sometimes, sometimes they just don't bother other times. It simply comes down to the average Joe's viewing experience. Entain are trying to drive turnover, I sometimes have doubts they could drive a wheelbarrow full of horse shit.

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There is no reason why they couldn't have the win and place odds alternating on the screen. One thing I noticed today a lot of the official results were never shown after they left venue. They put the results straight after race in bottom left corner then officials if at all all on right side, hard to see exotics, if you are going to do it do it right or not at all, it just enhances the viewing experience.

Well people I've been watching a bit this afternoon as well as watching our mighty women's cricket team and my thoughts on the new trackside is to coin a phrase once used by Frank Spencer, it needs a few minor adjustments. Sometimes you do wonder if the people making these changes understand what an average racing follower wants, as in info.

Maybe he has binoculars, that's where everyone's going wrong.

I think the idea is to have everyone on their smartphones on the platform, sitting in front of TV at home and reality is anyone sitting at home watching at home is probably doing that now, where you have all the info, basically turning every fucker into a zombie, im not sure if they are exploiting a gambling addiction or a internet addiction, i actually think more the latter. I'm still prepared to wait till after the weekend before passing judgment on the new tv presentation but I do think it's a bit of a oddball looking arrangement.

Less than 5000 on the late Quaddie, almost more bet on the last treble, there in lies another issue, is there room for picking the last 4 races as well as the last 3, but judging by those figures fuck all were watching anyway.

Don't ask me a hard question like that, leave that to the experts at ATC and NZHR.

I hate to be negative, just been switching trackside channels in last half hour, it's crap. I don't normally watch on days like today, just seeing what it's like. Maybe the presentation of our own racing may be better, their is no time, no place, no selections, only half the results, change is good if it's positive, this ain't. I got a idea that as we sided with Entain we ain't going to get as good coverage from oz, hence the music then race then music, it's a hard watch. Maybe that's why they may channel energy into NZ.

Seems Entain are wanting a 10 % increase in Harness meetings, as in all these Monday Tuesday low grade stuff, so expect a big rise in days like today, we don't need more volume, just more quality.

Ascot Park fields are surprisingly good, mostly, 40 minute intervals, that's a drag, the price you pay being on trackside 1 with two other NZ meetings. Doubt the 40 minutes has anything to do with long lines at the tote lol.

I have often wondered if the winner of the lesser race gets the same penalty as the better field winner and if they do should they ?

I do like the idea that 3 from the Southern mile and 3 winners of other races are guaranteed a start, that Southern mile should have guaranteed all 10 heat winners a start, that was anomoly of that concept, something maybe for next time perhaps.

Don't think it hurts to have a fresh look but nothings changed for the better, I noticed no place odds , the old outdated one had them, also moving to freeview, it's only on UHF, not Satellite freeview but it is now or the freeview app you get on TVs, so probably its just giving the same people who watch different options as to what way they watch, they are still having the premiere channel on Sky, that's where they will increase coverage on big days so they havnt divorced from Sky at all.

Based on numbers nominated how have they managed 11 races ?