curious

Mmmm.. That sounds very discriminatory to me. I have a long track record as an advocate for childrens' rights but those can not come by diminishing the rights of other groups including other age groups. Give yourself an uppercut for that comment.

Yes, that's correct. Don't think there is any data broken down by month or quarter and the 20/21 data is still not out. Can only go by what the coroner said in that report.

Quick re-visit of that. Appears suicides were down in young people as well though the figure for 10-14s not given. CHIEF CORONER RELEASES ANNUAL PROVISIONAL SUICIDE FIGURES Chief Coroner Judge Deborah Marshall today released the annual provisional suicide statistics, which show the provisional suicide rate is at its lowest in three years. In the year to 30 June 2020, 654 people died by suicide, compared to 685 the year before – a decrease of 31 deaths, and a drop in the suicide rate from 13.93 deaths per 100,000 to 13.01. “While it is encouraging to see the suspected suicide rate and number drop for the past year, it’s important to remember that there are still more than 650 families who have lost someone in tragic circumstances,” Chief Coroner Judge Deborah Marshall says. “My sincere condolences to the families and friends of those who died by suspected suicide in the past year.” There was a decrease in the number of young people dying by suspected suicide, particularly in the 15-19 age range (down from 73 to 59) and the 20-24 age range (down from 91 to 60). Both rates decreased from 23.14 to 18.69 and from 26.87 to 17.77 respectively. However, there was an increase in suspected suicides in the 80-84 age range, with 12 more people dying by suicide in the past year (18) than the year before (6). The rate increased from 6.49 to 19.48. The Māori and Pacific Island suspected suicide rates both decreased over the past year, from 21.78 to 20.24 and from 8.91 to 7.07 respectively. The European rate also dropped from 13.02 to 12.08. However, the Asian rate went up from 5.09 to 7.91 – an increase of 20 deaths. “Throughout this year there has been unhelpful and irresponsible public commentary on the effect COVID-19 would have on the suicide rate,” Judge Marshall says. “During the first lockdown period I said it was unhelpful to release figures for such a short time frame, as it is nearly impossible to draw sound conclusions, nor do I believe such public discourse is helpful to people in distress. “I’m encouraged by the work the Suicide Prevention Office has started and for the reliable, strong and hope-filled voice that director Carla na Nagara has added to the wider public discourse.”

Yes although the data on completed suicides in 2020 was significantly down during Covid and stayed down after. Those are presumably not included in thae above since it was hospital discharges. Also, I haven't seen an age breakdown of completed suicides, so that may have been different for 10-14yos.

The letter in the headpost does not define what they mean by parasuicide. However, they say the study was based on ICD discharge codes E950-E958. Not clear if that is what they are meaning by parasuicide but those codes include successful, unsuccessful suicide attempts as well as other self-harm events.

This does appear to be a bit of a shift in that direction. Hopefully the Mangatangi area outbreak proves to be isolated and contained there and we may be ok.

And if you are over 65 you stay imprisoned at home if you don't want to get vaccinated ... hmmm.

Yes. The domestic wagering revenue is already way negative at current stakes levels.

Why? Unless they give up on the elimination strategy and they can't really do that. Auckland hospitals are already stretched. They have to stick with the go hard go early otherwise and this is probably worse than the case we started with which put the whole country straight into level 4. Lot wil depend on what eventuates in the next 3 or 4 days I guess,

I'd say that's an even money fave. Rest of the country possibly level 3 by Friday.

It's getting the same isn't it? Resurgence payments, wage subsidies etc.

They probably have the same plan as when this outbreak hit. Something like the plan is to come up with a plan when it hits.

True but what worries me is that this probably has already spread beyond the Waikato given the time-frame, so there's a fair chance the whole of the NI if not the SI could be at level 3 or 4 by the end of the week. Hard to know what to do really.

Except the alleged criminal's kids went to school subsequently, one of them with symptoms. Heaven knows where it might have spread from there. How on earth anyone could have bailed a prisoner from Auckland to the Waikato when no-one else is allowed out of there is beyond me. What were they thinking? That's right, they weren't.

Maybe at least phone to see how the young lady was doing and perhaps offer to send someone over to give Freda a hand for the week?

Any market on whether this meeting will go ahead? What's the odds? If I were a jockey resident there I'd be getting out now.

Probably should switch one or two days to the AWT so they can get it sorted for the Cup meeting.. That's what it's for isn't it?

Pretty sure I saw sand or something flying up around the finish line in one of the later races.

Good letter.

Medical Definition of Parasuicide Medical Editor: Charles Patrick Davis, MD, PhD Reviewed on 3/29/2021 Parasuicide: An apparent attempt at suicide, commonly called a suicidal gesture, in which the aim is not death. For example, a sublethal drug overdose or wrist slash. Previous parasuicide is a predictor of suicide. The increased risk of subsequent suicide persists without decline for at least two decades. So not a suicide attempt by this definition.

What the hell is parasuicide? And who invented it? And who is Sadly Brodie?

Don't think there is one for stable hands, though probationers require guardian consent if under 18.

I've read this before. What am I missing? if you look at the two columns on the right of the attached (PHE data), it seems to me that it is showing death rates much higher (per 100,000) for the unvaccinated cf. the vaccinated?

So, NZTR may ask employees as above but cannot require them to be vaccinated unless they are in a particular role that may warrant that requirement, say a health professional. I'm pretty sure that under current legislation they have no right to ask, let alone require that of licensees.