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I don't know of a bot that could be that dumb and illogical, though I guess some programming genius may be able to create one.

Yep. Rely on hearsay Thommo. The good thing is that I'm no longer worried that newbies to the game might take your bizarre theories on board, lose their money and depart the game. If they haven't yet figured out your fraudulent claims then they probably deserve to lose it. Someone has to or the rest of us couldn't win.

Fair enough MM but for me, I think the action of the SPCA is shameful and I am shocked by their actions in this story. I'm going to a birthday party on Saturday where in lieu of presents, I'm invited to drop a coin or some notes in a bucket for the SPCA. I was intending to contribute a hundred bucks which is maybe about what I would have spent on a present. After reading this I will probably contribute somewhere between nothing and a token gold coin if it is going to be used to kill horses rather than save them.

Shocking indeed but I'm not sure who is worse. They are resilient creatures. Worm it, do its teeth, give it a feed, find it a loving home. No, they shoot the poor bloody thing. Shame on them.

Is Winnie in Thommo's remedial reading class maybe? I'm not convinced that either will graduate.

Hiring consultants to conduct studies can be an excellent means of turning problems into gold, your problems into their gold.

It was a soft win though.

Good thing you didn't ask Thommo that MF. He'd want you to wait until the result was provided, then put up the odds.

Well that's because I didn't understand what you meant by a speed rating. It now appears that you meant average time for each rating group for a given distance.

I don't think anyone's saying that isn't true or that it's different here, though I haven't looked. What I am saying is that you can not use average times for a population to assess individual performance. That's just dumb.

Don't know. You'd have to compare the winning percentage of those first time in blinkers with the same horses the start before; or somehow show that the blinkers performance was better than the horses's previous best without blinkers.

I don't think he was thinking

Here ya go....

I actually think we agree on that though I don't really care about the company, just the good individual performance. That though, is simply not true. It's the same generalisation and the same error.

Thommo, it's your usual error. You are applying a generalisation about a population (black type performers) to an individual performance. You can't do that. Well you can but it won't generally be helpful. It makes an assumption that could easily be ruled out. Why can't you compare a Trentham straight six to Ellerslie, or any performances on different tracks for that matter? Of course you can. How else could you assess performance if you can't then compare the individual assessments? Have you completed your remedial maths course yet and got your sis to explain the ecological fallacy??

Oops, sorry mardigras. Snap! Thommo will probably now be convinced we are the same person ...lol.

Don't get me started on the handicapping system CS. I agree with you though, having the likes of rote rating penalties for maiden wins is a joke. It's not even really a handicapping system.

Oh really. So are you related to Thommo? He also puts up the winners after the race. Though to be fair he doesn't have a go beforehand like you did.

Oh.....which two? I must have different results than you. I'm going by the NZTAB prices and results. Pak R1-2, $1-50 Won ... $1.30 Pak R3 -12, $2-60 .... unplaced Goul R1-2, $1-75. ....unplaced Or did you mean we should lay them? They also strike me as a bit short for the 10/1 and over thread?

Are you related to Chris Thompson?

Del Mar R6 #8 Avail

And again for Del Mar, R1 is reported as abandoned. R2, an hour away shows a win pool of a massive $16, and there are no FOs available.

Ouch. Glad I didn't go again today. Had to work to replenish the bank. Guess we have some more refinement to do to get this sorted. Might be because we didn't have a heavy track today and couldn't use the 3kg claim factor? The -23/24% ROI is seeming consistent though. I hope it wasn't too windy up there in Northland Wally. The Armourguard van could have blown off the road with so little weight on. At least you would have been able to second a toddler to push the barrow from the back of the tote.

I'd say get on when the blinkers go on and if it has a claim as well add another 20%.

First race at Del Mar less than an hour away. NZTAB showing no odds. Are the bookies having a Sunday sleep in or have they all gone out for brekkie? What gives?