curious

I've raced a horse with Sheldon and I'd say he knows more about thoroughbred racing than most. He also knows what he doesn't know.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/106830745/seven-charged-in-harness-racing-probe

No amount of asset grabbing, tiered racing, outsourcing or increases in prize money can fix this in the short term, even if they do find a way to fix all the stuffed tracks. I can hear the rumble of stakeholders deserting by the minute.

You and I can't but Thommo can evidently even though it has nothing to do with this thread as far as I can make out.

Agree.....walk away. Take your club assets with you for your community and leave them to it. Not worth the fight anymore.

Really? Wanna put up some evidence?

The only thing I can say Hedley is that it's not yet a conquest.

c'mon Freda....wake up?

Are you saying this might not be an independent report as indicated Reefton? Perhaps even informed by 20 year old failed ideas?

Did I see someone mention cock-ups? This looks like potentially the biggest one and if they don't steal the assets to fix all those tracks and the revenue to sustain them the whole show will probably fall over. Soon I suspect. We are basing a strategy on recommendations from the 70s? Really?

I don't see how any of this can work. I think there's a fair chance that those clubs will simply walk away with their assets, so they won't have those and they'll be trying to run the same number of racedays on the remaining 28 tracks using a failed tiered stakes structure which will be even less sustainable than it is now. I dealt with John a bit in the late 80s and had a lot of respect for him and some degree of hope about this review but the more I consider it, he seems to have developed a level of perspicacity similar to Winnie's.

I get that but why have the tiers when the same horses will be going round in each tier as now? How can that possibly improve the product or revenue. Makes no sense to me and the report gives no explanation that I can see. It's another tired old idea that already hasn't worked. Sounds like another big breeder initiative to me, not anything that will help racing.

Can someone help me understand this aspect of the Messara recommendations? I can not see from the report how this will lead to increasing revenue? It seems to me more part of the problem than part of any useful solution and I can't see anything in the report that would persuade me otherwise. That's all assuming that the $110m for stakes actually materialises from the proposed strategies.

Just to not be deterred. Race 4 #2 Posh Holly 8/1 Race 8 #4 Unbridled Huntress 9/1

yeahhh... do you think he also doped my selections? Sounds like he'll survive though some reports are that he only fired in the air. Come along way since Bing greeted patrons at the opening event!

Yes, the report proposal is to not change that. What are they on about?

It may be Custer's last stand RM and it may be the affected clubs that have to do it. Here's hoping. The troops are being mobilised I hear.

Yeahhh exactly thinking out loud. My hunch would be that you'd need to compare total weight (TW) = BW +CW with something like best performance TW, probably also by track condition and distance. The likes of Mardi may be more helpful.

Easy peasy....

The only thing anal here is what you see in the mirror. But you are right that there's never been such a complete political dufus as this government. Of course, I gave them half a chance and they've gone about as well as my 20/1 shots at Del Mar.

Not a lot of help here because punters don't know the BW! More interesting to me since you have the data FtF is what impact the combined CW+BW has on times.

Easy lads ... they were an average of about nearly 20/1!

Maybe buy some then?

Why? They've completely fucked that up for decades? Surely time to give someone else a go?

I'll add one more. Race 3 #10 Beautiful Becca 13/1 Currently 19.00 FF NZTab