Brodie

Tough competition at Methven and a lot of luck also required because it only takes one big collect say a trifecta to win it and then punters are chasing. The fact that you have to bet on the tote and every race from the start doesn’t make you the best punter although some will disagree. Lol

He used to be a bit of a problem earlier on but has improved immensely. He is an enthusiastic young man that I believe has a big future in harness racing while it is still going.

Yes I agree Mark Harrell is a very good Junior, not sure where he is at the moment as I haven’t seen him driving recently! You are right the Hope horses aren’t going as well as normal however they will be back. As for looking sexy in the cart, I don’t really look at them that way. The top drivers do sit in the cart better than the ones that aren’t that great. Ben is very fortunate that he has parents that train a large team and he gets Plenty of drives from them, but if they weren’t happy with Ben driving then I am sure Greg would hook him!

Booby, why do you think he is one of the poorer Juniors in the country? I would say he would be one of the best, even though he gets plenty of drives, his UDR is very good for a junior. He has improved a ton from when he first started, through experience. Into his 3rd season he is winning at approx. every eith drive which isn’t too bad at all. He is a likeable young fellah and very good when interviewed on Trackside

JJ, thanks for that. Just shows the intelligence of many of people who are in Government offices and are being paid big salaries. Hopefully common sense will prevail as it is going to be hopeless at the big race days if they implement it! Can you also enquire from RITA if they have any intention of making the NZ TAB accept fixed odds bets for a reasonable amount from all punters? Does RITA accept that punters should be treated unequally? If the TAB were not accepting bets from dark skinned people that would be illegal! If the TAB were not accepting bets from punters that were a certain religion that would be illegal! If the TAB were not accepting bets from people that were over 80 that would be illegal! So ask them what gives them the right to not accept bets from people who they do not want to? How is this legal without breaching human rights?

Cp, has Jean Sebastien been retired?

Ranga, then why is the policy $1k then, when the AML act says $10k???? Punters are being turned off Ranga, as the tote div payouts aren’t getting smaller and smaller.

Ranga, how is it unhinged? It is totally the reality of things. Turnover is down, punters are being turned away and off!!

Totally agree that the TAB wouldn’t have had a problem taking the 12k from the punter on Wainui Creek. That was my point, that the TAB treats punters unequally. They say that they are concerned about some punters who lose, which is bollacks! They also have concerns that punters that want to bet 1k are possible money launderers and yet they take 12k off people. While The NZ TAB continue to adopt the policy of not accepting bets off punters, they will continue to bleed.

Ranga, no restricted punters would be getting 12k accepted by the Bookies. I’ve got no idea how many punters there are in NZ that are allowed to put $12k on, but I do know that the ones that are able to get this sort of amount on are losing punters, or they would be heavily restricted. Punters who are able to get these big wagers on with the NZ Bookies and are backing these $1.60 favourites to win are not the best punters around. Yes some people may be able to afford to lose 12k and not be too worried about it, but I would suggest that they would be certainly punters that the NZ TAB would be encouraging. There are far easier ways of making money guaranteed without offloading 12k on a harness horse that was never a certainty to win and certainly no value at $1.60!

Before tonight it had only won once from 12 starts from the mobile. Had not won at Alexandra Park in 4 starts Was first up but had won a couple of trials To put 12k on a horse with those factors to win paying $1.60 is not intelligent punting and no wonder this punter hasn’t been restricted! Come on NZ TAB, if you can allow punters on for 12k how about letting all other punters on for at least $1k? We are not money launderers!

Totally agree Happy, they would be needing plenty of luck gambling like that. The point is the ironic nature of allowing people to gambling like that whereas others who want to offload, are told to eff off!!

Money laundering is alive and well with the NZ TAB but it is only allowed with certain punters! Someone has put 12k on Wainui Creek tonight first up and drawn 6. Think I heard they got on at the luxurious odds of $1.60, that’s right $1.60, Seriously, the TAB advertises that they are concerned for the NZ punter who,loses money they can not afford to lose! They also now have a policy that they put in pLace to ensure that punters who bet over $1k or collects over $1k are identified so that money is not being laundered thru them! Well if that is not one of those two scenarios, I don’t know what is! Who in their semi right mind would offload $12k on a non cert to win 17,400??? And yet other punters are allowed to put next to nothing on! Glad I have given punting with the NZ TAB away.

Ranga, FFS you ain’t getting a PM, but the money is available. You challenged me to offer to buy, I met your challenge and now you are kicking for touch again!

Brodster not full of shite! Not personal messaging Ranga and showing ID, just like I won’t for the NZ TAB! The 5k offer is genuine and people that know me will vouch for me!

Ranga, not worth my reputation of making offers and not going thru with it! The Brodster is a man of his word! You not retreating now Ranga?

Rest assured a Ranga, I am more than good for it! Present the offer to the trainer. I will make it worth your while Ranga if you get it accepted.

Yeah it has been cleaned lol The offer is genuine!

Ranga, go and present him an offer of 5k cash from The Brodster

Why on earth would Mr Versteeg ask for the horse to be made unruly from the mobiles. The horse did nothing wrong tonight apart from not being fully up behind the mobile. So now it is going to be further behind and always going to settle down last! Mr Versteeg should either sell the horse or give it to another trainer and I am sure that it would then be winning!

The horse must get sick of going around. The horse can run abit, remember the night it bolted in over 2600m in a juniors race, cam from last. There is a reason that it isn’t winning and it starts with a “J”.

Na I can’t, they say I am money laundering!

For once and for all, Ranga, I don’t own the Cruz Bar!

Do agree, punters are over the AllStar BS, but there is some good stuff on there but it is only after the AllStar show. Not sure who has decided that it should be all about the AllStars, are they sponsoring the show???

The mile racing at Alexandra Park is a borefest and if punters are investing on them, they clearly don’t follow racing closely. Of course a marketing manager is going to talk it up as he is the market8ng manager. He is hardly going to say that they have stuffed up! Auckland Trotting is totally stuffed and it is going to take a helluva lot more than programming boring mile races to get them out of the shite!!! If people are going to Alexandra Park it is not to watch the racing, it will be the socialising.