Brodie

They aren’t getting my business at the moment!!!! Cant be bothered with the Tossers!!! Still won’t stop me pointing out that what they are doing is just not right ethically, morally and any other ally!!

So on what basis are they refusing punters? The fact that there rules may refuse to accept any bet without reason doesn’t make it right!!! Anyway, easier money to be made investing nowadays than trying to beat the fixed odds markets and restrictions. Punters and race goers are going to continue to give the racing game away and there are bugger all new people with any money coming in!

Happy, yes I can not see Auckland Club getting out of it without selling more land which is probably a Franklin training centre. There is no way they can maintain the stake money that they Currently offering and there are fewer owners, trainers and drivers than there used to be. The amount of debt has put them in the shite totally!

It is just blatant BS that the NZ TAB is allowed to treat punters differently. Are you allowed to treat people differently due to the colour of your skin? Are we allowed to treat people differently due to their religion? Are we allowed to treat people due to their age? The answer is no we are not allowed to and yet this monopoly the NZ TAB is allowed to differentiate and segregate some punters from the others due to being more successful. The NZ TAB will only let some win a pittance whereas other punters are allowed to lose as much as possible. Just because this is what they do does not make it right and I hope they get done by the punters each and every day but we know they won’t, because they will continue just to take wagers from the punters who continue to lose. I don’t need that crap but will certainly continue to point out the practice that they restrict who they want to.

AllStars will send some over early and race in some of the other races before or after the inters. You would seriously doubt any other NZ horses would bother to go. Why would they want to have a heat at Bathurst???

I doubt that there are very many new punters coming thru, certainly not enough to replace the ones that are being lost! There are possibly more sports punters that are betting more but unfortunately for the racing industry they are being diminished by the actions of the TAB! No one except the odd plonker on here, could support what is going on! Wait for it, Ranga, what have you got?

Same bloody thing Greg. Being pedantic is not becoming of you.

Greg, I thought you said earlier that there was no Racing Board now, and yet you have just quoted it???? Racing Board, RITA, don’t care what you call it, whatever needs major changes to make racing viable going forward. Keep up!

There needs to be major changes within the infrastructure of the Racing Board and TAB. The overall costs need trimming significantly and turnover needs to be encouraged rather than discouraged. The salaries being paid to many of the employees are grossly exorbitant for what they are doing as without the punter they have no job. Blatantly ridiculous when employees are earning far more than thePrime Minister of NZ, not that she is doing a good job though! The TAB wouldn’t worry if harness racing wasn’t around as the hierarchy are only concerned about yield.

Yes there would’ve punters paid out on the pathetically low odds on the fixed odds, But you also have to realise that they would’ve made plenty on all the other horses that were backed and lost. FFS even if the Bookies did lose a net $500k for the night, hardly that significant when they have employees that are on salaries of at least that amount and for doing exactly what??

Greg, you are totally incorrect! NZ Bookies want certain punters to bet early when there is nothing at all being held by the Bookies. Bookies will take $10k off known losing punters as soon as the final fields odds come out, but if you are a restricted winning punter then doesn’t matter what you want to back, you are restricted. Greg, you are clearly not a winning restricted punted by the TAB or you would know what actually does go on!!! Even if there was plenty being held by the Bookies on race 5 at Addington, I couldn’t get much on!!!!! Do not go quoting stuff that is written overseas as being gospel as to what treatment I have had to endure while I was trying to invest!!!! You haven’t got a clue Greg! ’

Not at all Ranga! That is the question, why don’t they? Human athletes tend to leave good athletes but not with harness horses for some reason. You would think that their attributes would be passed on to their progeny wouldn’t you?

How many did it win Roman? Why have they retired it after only racing at 2?

Interesting question is why do our champion mares not leave horses that are ever as good as themselves! Do the AllStars champion mares that they have had, never left much of note unless you can think of some? You would think with the ability that some mares show combined with champion stallions, they would leave other champions, but doesn’t seem that way at all!! Good broodmares continue to leave winner after winner, despite many of them being unraced or lightly raced. Will be very interesting to see what Adore Me and it’s relations who have been champions for the AllStars Do in the breeding barn!

Let’s face it The AllStars horses can do things that horses from all other stables can not. You have got your head in the sand if you believe it is all to do with being more professional! It is not going to get any better and you are going to be racing for the scraps in the big stakes races going forward. Do you think the AllStars give a rats about the other harness participants? Not on your nelly,

Why should anyone bother to take notice? Don’t give a rats if they don’t take any notice, but my prerogative to continue to point out that the TAB don’t treat all punters the same. Do I need to punt for financial reasons? No I am fortunate that I don’t need to, however if the NZ TAB continues to alienate punters they will continue to go backwards and the harness will suffer which it already is! Has got nothing to do with how much the Bookies are holding on the race whatsoever Greg!!!!! They restrict certain winning punters and take large wagers from known losing punters! You need rewiring Greg if you believe that the TAB is right in restricting punters all the while paying exorbitant salaries to employees that do very little to deserve them, while the racing industry continues to struggle and owners and trainers battle!!!

Don’t disagree JJ! Firm in my beliefs and when there are injustices, I will clearly continue to push the barrow! Why should punters be treated differently? Is my money not as good as the next punters?

Was meant to read Natalie rather than Amalie previously lol. Brodster never cries Ranga! You never know , with Xmas racing nearly upon us, he may well make a determined effort!

Brad got done for excessive use,that is more than 10 hits with the whip! The question is, does Amalie Rasmussen use the whip more than 10 times in the last 400m, the answer is she used it more than 10 times in the last 200m, but nothing is said!!!!! Nat doesn’t care, she is a repeat offender as we all know.

The Box Seat on Wednesday night will be a pukeathon and I won’t be watching it lol. It is pretty embarrassing for harness racing when one stable is just so dominant and what is the point of Trackside paying 4 people on the panel to predict and tip winners, when the winners all basically pay $1.30 or thereabouts? Seriously, it appeared that Whale and Micky were a bit perplexed by what had happened tonight dividend wise. Micky instead turned to tipping out the head to heads rather than tipping out winners. Bring back racing where you see different owners and trainers with big smiles on their faces, rather than the continuation of the ones we are seeing which is just a blatant turnoff for most people except GooooBoooooyyeeeeeehaaaaa etc etc.

It is blatantly ridiculous just how much better the AllStars horses are than horses from every other stable in NZ and Australia. Emma Stewart didn’t bother sending anything over as she knew it just wasn’t worth the expense, when she can win at home. How on earth can a horse sit parked the whole way in an Interdominions final and win?. How can a horse that wouldn’t be in their top 6, gallop out and settle down lengths behind the field and go around and still win? No other stable in the country has a horse that can perform like this, and horses normally just can’t do this?? Trainers in NZ you are clearly second rate compared to the Blue and Silver and you have got your work cut out to win any Group race in NZ with AllStar horses involved!! Going to be very hard to attract new owners to get involved when the costs to have a horse trained are now so high and the returns are so poor!

Yay, Self Assured $1.20 This has to be attractive for attracting new people to punting on harness racing! I wonder what big bets have been made tonight? Have they got anything in at the Mot. tomorrow?

What an amazing run of short priced favourites so far as the Auckland meeting starts to wind down. I doubt there has ever been a meeting that has so many short priced favourites prevailing. $2.10 $2.10 $1.30 $1.30 $1.30 $1.80 $1.60 and$1.30 yes some will say that it is easy money, but seriously what a waste of time when you are collecting peanuts. The Australians won’t be bringing their horses over for the big races in NZ in any numbers again, while this domination is around.

I have been watching Auckland Interdominions tonight! The AllStars stables horses are just so far better than anyone else’s it isn’t funny. If you have got a good horse and it isn’t in the Purdon/Rasmussen stable and you get offered good money for it, you might as well sell it if you need the money, as you have no chance of winning the group races. Another Masterpiece, who was a short priced favourite draws 2 at the gate and gallops out and settled down many lengths off the last horse and out of the race normally. But the horses from this stable are just not your normal good horses, he catches the field and goes 3 wide for a good distance and then gets up to beat Classic Brigade who ran 4th in the NZ Cup this year. Unbelievable and yes a phenomenal performance by a very good horse but FFS how do you expect to be able to beat them?????

Ranga, glad you think That I have good work. Not sure why it is, but just dating the facts!! The reason given for the $1000 rule was to control money laundering thru racing and stop punters financing terrorism!