Happy Sunrise Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Really? Seemingly so if you look at the names of races at Auckland and Addington. Makes you wonder about the decisions made during the 'covid crisis' and what an epic back flip. Who will be on it?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 53 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Really? Seemingly so if you look at the names of races at Auckland and Addington. Makes you wonder about the decisions made during the 'covid crisis' and what an epic back flip. Who will be on it?????? Back flips,maybe things might mostly come back to similar in time,who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 As long as is it isnt the same AllStars BS every week, it will be welcomed back! Hopefully it will be previews rather than the reviews, as who cares about races that have already been run?? Give us the interesting stuff and topical instead of wanking on about $1.50 favourites and what Self Assured should be paying in the Cup!!! So damn boring week in and week out until November! Will the Cup even be run this year, with Arderrn still at the helm?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 56 minutes ago, Brodie said: Will the Cup even be run this year, with Arderrn still at the helm?? are crush and big gee being scratched by order of the stewards ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Brodie said: As long as is it isnt the same AllStars BS every week, it will be welcomed back! Hopefully it will be previews rather than the reviews, as who cares about races that have already been run?? You would hope they would look at the structure of the show and what its purpose is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Brodie said: As long as is it isnt the same AllStars BS every week, it will be welcomed back! Hopefully it will be previews rather than the reviews, as who cares about races that have already been run?? Give us the interesting stuff and topical instead of wanking on about $1.50 favourites and what Self Assured should be paying in the Cup!!! So damn boring week in and week out until November! Will the Cup even be run this year, with Arderrn still at the helm?? Actually i would like to hear mick guerin's take on how the all stars team has been performing so far this season. We all have our own opinions on the lengths guerin will go to ridicule anything negative that may be said about the all stars. So how does he think they are going this season? Here's my take. The all stars still set the benchmark for excellence and are our best trainers,but.....anyone can see that in the last 4 months they are not operating at the "Bulletprooof' level that those on the box seat constantly refer too. Can mick guerin please come up with a reasonable explanation? Heres the all stars UDR since they have been purdon/rasmussen. 2014 .4543 2015 .4496 2016 .5063 2017 .4493 2018 .4762 2019 .4828 2020 .4540 this season .3635 Now i know any other trainer would love to have a udr of.3635,but this is a significant drop in performance from our elite stable. What the most interesting feature of how they are performing is that the horses get tired near the finish after a hard run.That is what is so noticeable. Like i said,they are still our no 1 stable,but can Guerin explain why. Of course i know what his answer will be. He will drag out the same old tall poppy,jealous, haters line that he always takes.He will not address what i refer to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, the galah said: this season .3635 Now i know any other trainer would love to have a udr of.3635,but this is a significant drop in performance from our elite stable. Is that for the calendar year or since 1 August? If the latter a bit pointless doing a comparison as we are only 6 weeks in. They would only need to achieve their average strike rate for the rest of the year to be above their two lowest years. Edited September 15, 2020 by Noodlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, the galah said: Actually i would like to hear mick guerin's take on how the all stars team has been performing so far this season. We all have our own opinions on the lengths guerin will go to ridicule anything negative that may be said about the all stars. So how does he think they are going this season? Here's my take. The all stars still set the benchmark for excellence and are our best trainers,but.....anyone can see that in the last 4 months they are not operating at the "Bulletprooof' level that those on the box seat constantly refer too. Can mick guerin please come up with a reasonable explanation? Heres the all stars UDR since they have been purdon/rasmussen. 2014 .4543 2015 .4496 2016 .5063 2017 .4493 2018 .4762 2019 .4828 2020 .4540 this season .3635 Now i know any other trainer would love to have a udr of.3635,but this is a significant drop in performance from our elite stable. What the most interesting feature of how they are performing is that the horses get tired near the finish after a hard run.That is what is so noticeable. Like i said,they are still our no 1 stable,but can Guerin explain why. Of course i know what his answer will be. He will drag out the same old tall poppy,jealous, haters line that he always takes.He will not address what i refer to. galah the yaldhurst lollie shop is closed down now im hearing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Noodlum said: Is that for the calendar year or since 1 August? If the latter a bit pointless doing a comparison as we are only 6 weeks in. Thats the type of reply i expect from you noodlum. Have you not been watching harness racing since it resumed after the lock down,or do you simply not want to address what i am saying. Go stick your head back in the sand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, the galah said: anyone can see that in the last 4 months they are not operating at the "Bulletprooof' level that those on the box seat constantly refer too. Some are certainly not sticking on as well as they used to. I think i was the same last year or the year before when people thought the dominance was over. The true evidence will come in the bigger money months coming up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Deleted my comment. 😂 Edited September 15, 2020 by Happy Sunrise It made no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, the galah said: Thats the type of reply i expect from you noodlum. Have you not been watching harness racing since it resumed after the lock down,or do you simply not want to address what i am saying. Go stick your head back in the sand. I'm just saying it's too early to infer any statistical trend. As for your post it's not clear what you are inferring. Can you clarify? Perhaps everyone else has lifted their game. Edited September 15, 2020 by Noodlum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Oh an I see the All Stars are doing better in total Stakes than most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Wonder if the box seat will be doing a special piece on Denis O Connell and his driving and his iron horses Pete's dash and Alexy,would be interesting to see some grassroots people instead a select few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Some are certainly not sticking on as well as they used to. I think i was the same last year or the year before when people thought the dominance was over. The true evidence will come in the bigger money months coming up. In my opinion the drop off in the ability to seemingly 'run forever' is much more noticeable this year than at any other time. There is a reason for that. Your right,maybe come cup time it may change,but even if it does,it doesn't erase what we are currently seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 One comment I will make about Purdons horses,it not a criticism of anybody personally coz I'm not into that here is a quite lot do seem to have a short shelf life or do sustain a lot of mishaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, the galah said: There is a reason for that. Which is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, the galah said: Thats the type of reply i expect from you noodlum. Have you not been watching harness racing since it resumed after the lock down,or do you simply not want to address what i am saying. Go stick your head back in the sand. But it's a perfectly reasonable point. Comparing UDRs from 12-month seasons with a 6-week UDR from an upside-down season is comparing apples with oranges. Try again in 6 months and if it's still the same we'll admit you're onto something. But at the moment all you've really got is noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 47 minutes ago, Basil said: But it's a perfectly reasonable point. Comparing UDRs from 12-month seasons with a 6-week UDR from an upside-down season is comparing apples with oranges. Try again in 6 months and if it's still the same we'll admit you're onto something. But at the moment all you've really got is noise. Ok, If you can't see it,then try opening both eyes. No point in my saying much more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Noodlum said: I'm just saying it's too early to infer any statistical trend. As for your post it's not clear what you are inferring. Can you clarify? Perhaps everyone else has lifted their game. "Perhaps everyone else has lifted their game" -Interesting comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 hours ago, the galah said: "Perhaps everyone else has lifted their game" -Interesting comment. Why? Come out and say what you think the reason is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Box Seat will be a little different. For a start, it's not being run or owned by Trackside or the TAB, or HRNZ - Greg has resurrected it on his on with financial support around the country. I'm sure there will be more information released shortly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Counter Punch said: Box Seat will be a little different. For a start, it's not being run or owned by Trackside or the TAB, or HRNZ - Greg has resurrected it on his on with financial support around the country. I'm sure there will be more information released shortly. Correct you are Matt. its been in the pipelines for quite some time but GOC's influence at the now NZTAB is not what it used to be. Obviously saw an opportunity for himself to make a few $ as heard he had sponsors lined up a while back and left Met pretty quickly after being appointed there. Edited September 15, 2020 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 15 hours ago, Brodie said: As long as is it isnt the same AllStars BS every week, it will be welcomed back! Hopefully it will be previews rather than the reviews, as who cares about races that have already been run?? Give us the interesting stuff and topical instead of wanking on about $1.50 favourites and what Self Assured should be paying in the Cup!!! So damn boring week in and week out until November! Will the Cup even be run this year, with Arderrn still at the helm?? Yes, the Cup will be run this year Brodie. The Cup occurs after the election which the Communist Ardern will win. Once back in power, I think you will find there will be a change in tactics on how Covid-19 is handled. But I could be wrong, perhaps Dear Leader will keep us in lockdown for her next term too. If that happens the Cup will probably go ahead but there will be no crowd allowed. That would be a financial disaster for NZMet Club. Winston is likely to be gone so who will be Racing Minister in the new government? Sweep stakes time. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Noodlum said: Why? Come out and say what you think the reason is! I said your "perhaps everyone else has lifted their game" comment was interesting because it appears to be an acknowledgment of what you had earlier denied. As to the box seat. I think it is great to see this show return. Like brodie,i would like to see more content involving the grass roots of the industry,balanced with the highlighting of the the contribution the likes of the all stars bring to the industry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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