Rotorua Abandoned

[All The Aces]

 Fine day and Rotorua abandoned late due to the state of the track with horses and people already on course WTF!! 

Why wasn't the decison made earlier???   

 

 

[KickintheKods]

Because the mist hadn't cleared from the brain of those who make the decisions. 

 

[aquaman]

Because the RIU are underfunded.

[Newmarket]

No worries, Aussie racing starts soon. Better nags, better tracks and far better jockeys…. And less falls

[mikeynz]

1 hour ago, All The Aces said:

 

Why wasn't the decison made earlier???   

 

 

Maybe they are doing a survey to see how many would turn up😂

Why in situations like this dont they shift to monday, crowds are irrelevant mostly so what's the problem,?

Edited July 23, 2022 by mikeynz

[All The Aces]

48 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

No worries, Aussie racing starts soon. Better nags, better tracks and far better jockeys…. And less falls

Randwick abandoned after R1 😁

[Doomed]

Probably the interesting thing in all this is that the AWT could only manage 7 races, even with $40,000 races and heavy tracks all round. 6 in one race, the 3yo race managed 9 acceptors after 5 noms, but only 8 acceptors including a first starter in a $40,000 race, so much for qualification criteria favouring those that had form on the AWT.

And once again we still haven't seen an abandoned meeting saved by the AWT, despite Winston's promises. I wonder if they considered abandoning Rotorua yesterday and transferring to the AWT?

[Peanut]

2 hours ago, Doomed said:

Probably the interesting thing in all this is that the AWT could only manage 7 races, even with $40,000 races and heavy tracks all round. 6 in one race, the 3yo race managed 9 acceptors after 5 noms, but only 8 acceptors including a first starter in a $40,000 race, so much for qualification criteria favouring those that had form on the AWT.

And once again we still haven't seen an abandoned meeting saved by the AWT, despite Winston's promises. I wonder if they considered abandoning Rotorua yesterday and transferring to the AWT?

That would take leadership.  And so far with the first 100 days more than half over for new CEO Bruce Sharrock we are yet to see any.  Groundhog day indeed.

[All The Aces]

I have seen video footage of the area of the track that caused today's abandonment at Rotorua.

A track inspection yesterday and early this morning would have revealed it would be a problem and that racing couldn't proceed but no they wait until the jockeys arrive and see the problem themselves, raise concerns and after conferment the meeting is abandoned shortly before the first.

The area was past the winning post and near where the horses cross over from the 1560m start and there was a discussion about whether to delete the two 1560m races and the 2000m race and race the remaining five races being the three 1215m races and two 1400m races but it was still considered unsafe even pulling up and the meeting abandoned entirely. 

Some serious questions need to be asked about this.      

[LongOwner]

33 minutes ago, All The Aces said:

I have seen video footage of the area of the track that caused today's abandonment at Rotorua.

A track inspection yesterday and early this morning would have revealed it would be a problem and that racing couldn't proceed but no they wait until the jockeys arrive and see the problem themselves, raise concerns and after conferment the meeting is abandoned shortly before the first.

The area was past the winning post and near where the horses cross over from the 1560m start and there was a discussion about whether to delete the two 1560m races and the 2000m race and race the remaining five races being the three 1215m races and two 1400m races but it was still considered unsafe even pulling up and the meeting abandoned entirely. 

Some serious questions need to be asked about this.      

The rain that has been falling surely an earlier inspection and report from the course manager on Wednesday would given the same result - cannot run.

Then transfer to AWT and open up nominations with preference to those already nominated . 

Surley that was part of the selling point AWT in each island .

Lack IQ and pragmatism  - better to make the early call than cancel on Saturday mid morning .

Use the AWT

[curious]

4 hours ago, LongOwner said:

The rain that has been falling surely an earlier inspection and report from the course manager on Wednesday would given the same result - cannot run.

Then transfer to AWT and open up nominations with preference to those already nominated . 

Surley that was part of the selling point AWT in each island .

Lack IQ and pragmatism  - better to make the early call than cancel on Saturday mid morning .

Use the AWT

Can't really see that working. AWTs don't really suit most grass heavy track winter gallopers. They go too quick. Abandoned grass meetings need to be transferred to grass imo.

[Freda]

3 hours ago, curious said:

Can't really see that working. AWTs don't really suit most grass heavy track winter gallopers. They go too quick. Abandoned grass meetings need to be transferred to grass imo.

Agree.

As said by others, the problem areas would have been noticeable earlier than raceday.

Just lazy and incompetent. 

[Joe Bloggs]

5 hours ago, curious said:

Can't really see that working. AWTs don't really suit most grass heavy track winter gallopers. They go too quick. Abandoned grass meetings need to be transferred to grass imo.

That wouldn't work here in QLD, they view the AWT as ''The Panacea''.......then turn a blind eye when the fields are decimated by scratchings, they've excelled themselves with the Gold Coast yesterday going to the synthetic up at the Sunny Coast on Monday.......it'll happen again, no-one has worked it out, except of course the punters......

[nod]

5 hours ago, curious said:

Can't really see that working. AWTs don't really suit most grass heavy track winter gallopers. They go too quick. Abandoned grass meetings need to be transferred to grass imo.

Lots to choose -Dargaville, Thames. Paeroa, Te Awamutu, Te Teko. Pukekohe..............

[LongOwner]

6 hours ago, curious said:

Can't really see that working. AWTs don't really suit most grass heavy track winter gallopers. They go too quick. Abandoned grass meetings need to be transferred to grass imo.

Those who don’t want to run AWT scratch and others may join - better for the industry to have racing than cancelled meeting .

The sport relies on turnover so let’s use the AWT track and run - if you don’t like the surface well your owners will miss opportunities . 

[curious]

9 minutes ago, LongOwner said:

Those who don’t want to run AWT scratch and others may join - better for the industry to have racing than cancelled meeting .

The sport relies on turnover so let’s use the AWT track and run - if you don’t like the surface well your owners will miss opportunities . 

Don't get me wrong LO. I have no problem with the AWT surface but I wouldn't run my heavy grass track winter galloper on it. I would run my good track galloper (especially an older one) on it as it gives a summer galloper a chance to have another campaign through winter. For the most part, they are not interchangeable.

Edited July 23, 2022 by curious

[Doomed]

2 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said:

That wouldn't work here in QLD, they view the AWT as ''The Panacea''.......then turn a blind eye when the fields are decimated by scratchings, they've excelled themselves with the Gold Coast yesterday going to the synthetic up at the Sunny Coast on Monday.......it'll happen again, no-one has worked it out, except of course the punters......

In Aussie they are obsessed with trying to rerun any abandoned meetings. In NZ they don't get a stuff, they just see it as a way to save a few dollars. If they are feeling really magnanimous they might throw in an extra maiden race at a meeting a wek later.

[Newmarket]

22 hours ago, All The Aces said:

Randwick abandoned after R1 😁

Randwick abandoned because of visability issues. 

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Randwick abandoned because of visability issues. 

And track conditions.

But Racing NSW chief steward Marc Van Gestel explained there was no alternative but to postpone the final nine races on the program after the downpour during the Randwick opener.

 

“Most jockeys who rode in that race felt that there was significant kickback affecting their visibility,’’ Van Gestel said.

 

“On top of that the ground is quite shifty.

 

“We have had significant amounts of rainfall in Sydney the last few months and there is just nowhere for the water to run.

“There was about 7mm of rainfall since 6am and the water is just sitting on the surface, there is nowhere for it to drain away.

 

“The jockeys felt it wasn’t safe to continue and the stewards agree after having assessed what we have seen.

 

“It was the only decision we could make in the interests of safety.’’

 

Randwick track manager Michael Wood said the course proper was safe for racing but visibility was an obvious concern for jockeys.

 

“Walking the track this morning, the track was fine and safe to race. The stewards were there this morning, too,’’ Wood said.

 

“But with big fields for the next two races and visibility an issue with more showers coming, the stewards had to make the call.’’

 

Wood said the unprecedented rainfall figures in Sydney this year are taking a toll on racetracks.

 

“We have had 350mm-plus of rainfall for the month of July so far,’’ he said.

 

“There has been more than 1900mm of rainfall at Randwick for the year to date and that is about 1000m over our average yearling rainfall.

 

“I think the meeting would have been fine without a massive downpour and the visibility problems in the first.’’

Champion jockeys Tommy Berry and Kerrin McEvoy said visibility issues and the waterlogged track conditions meant that it was unanimous among riders not to continue with the Randwick meeting.

 

Berry rode the winner, True Crime, in the only race run at Randwick on Saturday and despite the youngster’s comfortable victory margin his horse wasn’t comfortable in the conditions.

 

“There is so much fill in the track and with all the having fallen already this year, the rain has nowhere to go,’’ Berry said.

 

“The tracks are so waterlogged the rain that came was sitting on top of the track.

 

“I have had a month off and would have loved to keep going but it’s very, very heavy and the rain made it impossible to keep going.’’

 

McEvoy, one of the most experienced and highly regarded riders in the Sydney jockeys room, said visibility was a major concern.

 

“It’s just unfortunate we got those showers this morning,’’ McEvoy said.

 

“The first three got through it but the others didn’t. It was really testing ground. Visibility is a problem and the track is saturated.’’

 

[Huey]

No sympathy for the clown show at NZTR, where is Bernard when we need him?

 

NZTR are currently reviewing if any programming changes are necessary, or even possible, off the back of the Rotorua abandonment on Saturday. Suffice to say there are numerous challenges around the suitability of several tracks to carry a heavier workload given the extraordinary amount of rainfall throughout the country. This will be reviewed and notification given after nominations tomorrow.

[nomates]

4 minutes ago, Huey said:

No sympathy for the clown show at NZTR, where is Bernard when we need him?

 

NZTR are currently reviewing if any programming changes are necessary, or even possible, off the back of the Rotorua abandonment on Saturday. Suffice to say there are numerous challenges around the suitability of several tracks to carry a heavier workload given the extraordinary amount of rainfall throughout the country. This will be reviewed and notification given after nominations tomorrow.

Nothing to do with so many tracks not being utilized , never let the facts be part of the narrative .

[Joe Bloggs]

17 minutes ago, Huey said:

No sympathy for the clown show at NZTR, where is Bernard when we need him?

 

NZTR are currently reviewing if any programming changes are necessary, or even possible, off the back of the Rotorua abandonment on Saturday. Suffice to say there are numerous challenges around the suitability of several tracks to carry a heavier workload given the extraordinary amount of rainfall throughout the country. This will be reviewed and notification given after nominations tomorrow.

Do you really need Bernie Huey, I reckon you're taking the piss........Bernie's got cracked ribs mate, he laughed that much when he boarded the plane they heard them go bang back in economy, poor bugger was in agony flying back to MEL......the hostie asked did he need pain killers, Bernie was heard to remark......nah, just let me look at my bank book again, #painaway 

[nomates]

25 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said:

Do you really need Bernie Huey, I reckon you're taking the piss........Bernie's got cracked ribs mate, he laughed that much when he boarded the plane they heard them go bang back in economy, poor bugger was in agony flying back to MEL......the hostie asked did he need pain killers, Bernie was heard to remark......nah, just let me look at my bank book again, #painaway 

I assume he left a job file when he left , all it would have in it would be the advice to check the bank acct regularly and smile because it's easy money .

[All The Aces]

http://i1.cmail20.com/ei/r/91/07B/7DD/155729/csfinal/NZTR-banner-9900000000079e3c.jpg Dear Valued Owner, Firstly, I apologise to all the owners who were impacted by the abandonment on Saturday at Rotorua, likewise to all other participants, Trainers, Jockeys, Starters, Commentator, clerk of the scales, judge, raceday staff and punters.  We can no longer tolerate sub-par performance when it comes to our tracks given the cost to the industry. We will all agree that weather will get the better of us at times, that is something we can never change.  What we can change however is our ability to recognise when the surface we are expecting our horses and jockeys to perform on is not up to standard. Following the Trentham abandonment last year policies were put in place with the aim of avoiding incidents such as Saturday’s abandonment.    In recent weeks we have ensured that, when we were made aware of a potential track issue, that the track was inspected independently.  This has allowed meetings to be transferred or abandoned in advance of their race days.  The situation that occurred at Rotorua on Saturday is unacceptable.  NZTR has received an initial report from the club and requested further information.   We will keep participants advised regarding the outcome however, the Rotorua Racing Club will now be subject to our Return to Racing Policy which require certain steps to be followed before the track will be able to host racing again. So, what will NZTR be doing to avoid similar situations in the future? ·         From 1 August we will introduce a Regional Track model which will provide more eyes on tracks, and more support for track managers. ·         We will work more closely with the Racing Integrity Board (RIB) to ensure that, when situations require and resources allow, we will have people pre-inspect tracks with club personnel and, if possible, gallop a horse ridden by an experienced rider. I feel that with some in our industry there is a disconnect between what is expected in 2022 given heightened Health and Safety regulations, Animal Welfare considerations, and what may have been acceptable in the past. If we are to move forward as an industry we must accept and embrace the environment we are in and make the necessary adjustments, these are across the board and not just related to track conditions.  Otherwise, we will continue to sabotage any progress we are seeking to make.

 

Yours in racing, http://i2.cmail20.com/ei/r/91/07B/7DD/155729/csfinal/Bruce-Sharrock-9906db0a2801453c.jpg Bruce Sharrock Chief Executive New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing

[nomates]

1 minute ago, All The Aces said:

http://i1.cmail20.com/ei/r/91/07B/7DD/155729/csfinal/NZTR-banner-9900000000079e3c.jpg Dear Valued Owner, Firstly, I apologise to all the owners who were impacted by the abandonment on Saturday at Rotorua, likewise to all other participants, Trainers, Jockeys, Starters, Commentator, clerk of the scales, judge, raceday staff and punters.  We can no longer tolerate sub-par performance when it comes to our tracks given the cost to the industry. We will all agree that weather will get the better of us at times, that is something we can never change.  What we can change however is our ability to recognise when the surface we are expecting our horses and jockeys to perform on is not up to standard. Following the Trentham abandonment last year policies were put in place with the aim of avoiding incidents such as Saturday’s abandonment.    In recent weeks we have ensured that, when we were made aware of a potential track issue, that the track was inspected independently.  This has allowed meetings to be transferred or abandoned in advance of their race days.  The situation that occurred at Rotorua on Saturday is unacceptable.  NZTR has received an initial report from the club and requested further information.   We will keep participants advised regarding the outcome however, the Rotorua Racing Club will now be subject to our Return to Racing Policy which require certain steps to be followed before the track will be able to host racing again. So, what will NZTR be doing to avoid similar situations in the future? ·         From 1 August we will introduce a Regional Track model which will provide more eyes on tracks, and more support for track managers. ·         We will work more closely with the Racing Integrity Board (RIB) to ensure that, when situations require and resources allow, we will have people pre-inspect tracks with club personnel and, if possible, gallop a horse ridden by an experienced rider. I feel that with some in our industry there is a disconnect between what is expected in 2022 given heightened Health and Safety regulations, Animal Welfare considerations, and what may have been acceptable in the past. If we are to move forward as an industry we must accept and embrace the environment we are in and make the necessary adjustments, these are across the board and not just related to track conditions.  Otherwise, we will continue to sabotage any progress we are seeking to make.

 

Yours in racing, http://i2.cmail20.com/ei/r/91/07B/7DD/155729/csfinal/Bruce-Sharrock-9906db0a2801453c.jpg Bruce Sharrock Chief Executive New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing

Just received this email myself and was going to post it so thanks saved me the trouble . So certain processes weren't followed , again , and now Rotorua is now unavailable as a racing venue till further notice . Keep going moth balling tracks like this and racing will be put on hold until Auckland has laid it's flash new track then racing twice a week there .

And i don't really feel valued , haven't for decades .