gee Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: John Dunn and Blair Orange not driving Friday all barred from courses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 stuart is a good mate with wall , does brent still mange any jockeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Check out the latest news - Tom Bagrie charged with supplying ecstasy to Dexter Dunn and others! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 For trainspotters, the rule they have been charged under by RIU 1001 (1) Every person commits a serious racing offence within the meaning of these Rules, who, in New Zealand or in any other country:- (v) either by himself or in conjunction with any person: (i) does or permits or suffers to be done any act which a Judicial Committee deems fraudulent, corrupt or detrimental to the interests of harness racing; or 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Check out the latest news - Tom Bagrie charged with supplying ecstasy to Dexter Dunn and others! Police have arrested at least two more people in relation to a 17-month police investigation into allegations of race fixing or drug offences in harness racing. Thomas Durham Bagrie, a trainer/driver, was arrested on Wednesday. He faces charges of offering to supply ecstasy to several people including Dexter Dunn and conspiring to supply it to Blair Orange and Matthew Anderson. Bagrie, 30, of Christchurch, was also charged with offering to supply several other unnamed people, unlawful possession of a stungun and another charge of supplying ecstasy to Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 When are they heading to Matamata? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Police have arrested at least two more people in relation to a 17-month police investigation into allegations of race fixing or drug offences in harness racing. Thomas Durham Bagrie, a trainer/driver, was arrested on Wednesday. He faces charges of offering to supply ecstasy to several people including Dexter Dunn and conspiring to supply it to Blair Orange and Matthew Anderson. Bagrie, 30, of Christchurch, was also charged with offering to supply several other unnamed people, unlawful possession of a stungun and another charge of supplying ecstasy to Dunn. Things just getting worse. By conspiring to supply, does that mean he was supplying it? If so, is there any suggestion that these drivers were under the influence of ecstasy while driving in races? Why do people who have the world at their feet, allegedly risk it all ? Such a frustrating waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonMc Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Arsenic said: If the RIU stand those involved down then I feel really sorry for the Greyhound fraternity as Brendon Cole has been under investigation for 13 months and in the meantime has won stakes to the tune of $ 2.2 million dollars. What the fucks the difference I guess the difference is Police have laid charges and court appearance dates set but with Cole no charges and still under investigation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: I disagree Newmarket. Leading drivers always look around to see who is where especially good ones. So he handed up to the favourite and got a trail for a lap and there was a passing lane. The favourite who won was 1/2 in the betting the second favourite was 2/1. They were lengths better than the rest. What was the last 400m run in? They'd be hard pressed to prove match fixing on the video alone. Let's face it the RIU advising the Police on how to read a race reminds me of the blind leading the blind. True hard to prove on video alone but what information from calls and texts do the have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, Gavin said: Things just getting worse. By conspiring to supply, does that mean he was supplying it? If so, is there any suggestion that these drivers were under the influence of ecstasy while driving in races? Why do people who have the world at their feet, allegedly risk it all ? Such a frustrating waste. reports are jockeys might of been too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 22 minutes ago, JasonMc said: I guess the difference is Police have laid charges and court appearance dates set but with Cole no charges and still under investigation. This case and the Cole case are both live investigations, weren’t the Coles raided by the police and Mpi and the SPCA. So to be honest where’s the difference, these guys get banned and Cole makes 2.2 million and still training. What an absolute fuck up by the RIU 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Does that sound right? When asked if police took anything, he joked: "pride". Dalgety had not spoken to Dunn, who is in the United States, but said he would be "very surprised" if Dunn was involved in race fixing. "He's a leading punter and he just loves to have a bet on his horses. Him and Blair [Orange] are leading fellows. If you're successful, you're always in the gun at the start." Is it not illegal for drivers to bet on their horses? Me thinks the Stuff website have stuffed that up. Could a suing by Dexter for that statement be on the cards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arsenic said: This case and the Cole case are both live investigations, weren’t the Coles raided by the police and Mpi and the SPCA. So to be honest where’s the difference, these guys get banned and Cole makes 2.2 million and still training. What an absolute fuck up by the RIU glenda hughes says racing integrity system works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nowornever said: Does that sound right? When asked if police took anything, he joked: "pride". Dalgety had not spoken to Dunn, who is in the United States, but said he would be "very surprised" if Dunn was involved in race fixing. "He's a leading punter and he just loves to have a bet on his horses. Him and Blair [Orange] are leading fellows. If you're successful, you're always in the gun at the start." Is it not illegal for drivers to bet on their horses? Me thinks the Stuff website have stuffed that up. Could a suing by Dexter for that statement be on the cards! bit of a faux pas by someone there but the rest sounds like a typical cran interview Edited September 5, 2018 by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonMc Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Arsenic said: This case and the Cole case are both live investigations, weren’t the Coles raided by the police and Mpi and the SPCA. So to be honest where’s the difference, these guys get banned and Cole makes 2.2 million and still training. What an absolute fuck up by the RIU Cole raided no charges these people raided and charged huge difference if you have a gripe with Cole don't air it here as the cases are different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rangatira said: sounds like a typical cran interview They have changed it now but it did not read too well before! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Arsenic said: This case and the Cole case are both live investigations, weren’t the Coles raided by the police and Mpi and the SPCA. So to be honest where’s the difference, these guys get banned and Cole makes 2.2 million and still training. What an absolute fuck up by the RIU So if they were raided by SPCA ,Police and MPI why is it a fuck up by RIU Surely others have more power to intervene than RIU DoD SPCA initially press charges.Did police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Garrick Knight @GarrickRKnight 10m10 minutes ago More Police held a close associate of Graham Beirne, not a licence holder, in custody for eight hours of questioning today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Garrick Knight @GarrickRKnight 2m2 minutes ago More I have it on authority that a number of people NOT charged have been summonsed to appear in Court next week. what would that be about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 24 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Garrick Knight @GarrickRKnight 2m2 minutes ago More I have it on authority that a number of people NOT charged have been summonsed to appear in Court next week. what would that be about maybe receiving drugs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Elie Georges Sawma is one them hes a owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, gee said: Elie Georges Sawma is one them hes a owner miracle rising and ralph elliot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: No Jess it happens alot as you say, not sure if they still do it in American thoroughbred racing but they used to couple up stable runners for betting purposes on the tote no matter if one was odds on and the other was 40-1 and I'm sure you weren't allowed more than 2 from one stable in a race. That was the one annoying thing I found in the top English races, a big stable like Godolphin were allowed to run a pacemaker so their top horse got the tempo it needed. Oh yeah .. that pacemaker stuff .. and openly referred to as such .... pretty awful stuff and I have no idea what the betting public or industry judiciary made of it ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, JasonMc said: Cole raided no charges these people raided and charged huge difference if you have a gripe with Cole don't air it here as the cases are different hes allowed to vent his feelings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, JasonMc said: Cole raided no charges these people raided and charged huge difference if you have a gripe with Cole don't air it here as the cases are different he s making a comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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