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No we are saying the time for the Marketplace race was a 2:02 mile rate and a 57 sec 800m so should have been put in the race, while the Republican Party race was 1:55 MR and a 54 half so no chance on that one.

I agree almost drove to get it beaten. Isn't there a rule for that, considering it was a very short favourite?

You must be looking at the 2year plans. Should be able to go month by month if you want. I think last time I used them it was around $15 US for the two months I used it. There will be other VPN providers that are cheaper maybe.

Very easy to bypass/access the NZ TAB from overseas using VPN. Go through a mobile network (Buy a dongle from an overseas provider) and use something like NORD to act as the NZ server.

Yes. Rule number one always back them when they go to Manawatu. The first four and trifecta in that first race paid great money. Cmon the treble now!

Just wait until Purdon gets his team up there and starts winning at 1.50. Mmmm can't wait for those $15 trifecta dividends. NOT!!!

Where are these surveys you speak of and the results. Transparency is crucial. Don't give us numbers without the proof.

Even better I got it at 31 and 5.50 and yes they paid out the full amount.

I am sure the animal cruelty activists will have a field day about forcing horses into work before they have fully properly developed.

Well I presume they are trying to give the Sunday racing crowd a look at a start close up. Good for them.

I doubt it very much. Turnover may be up slightly but people will not be spending more per race. There are more races so the numbers are fudged. Not many bookmaker will share fixed odds pools and let punters and competitors analyze their liabilities. Are there any you know of that publish this information?

I don't see a problem with it as long as it is a novelty one off. Wouldn't really want to start there all the time though.

Its not a very sharp bend that first bend on the grass.

Starting in front of the crowd

Not according to the pools info I have been seeing on the TAB website each week. Pools are definitely down in win, place and trifecta betting from my records. To me wagering growth means an increase in betting pool average not turnover. As you say turnover is easy to manipulate by throwing extra races and meetings in to jack up the numbers. Give me the averages of all the pool sizes from the last few years so I can see if pools are on the increase or not.

Pretty easy to take them for 50K-100K a year without them blinking an eyelid from late 1990s to around 2010 then it started getting serious with the UK bookmakers risk management style starting to infiltrate the Aussie and New Zealand markets. I got banned from my first Aussie bookmaker in around 2011 quickly followed by restrictions and bannings on all the others. NZ TAB started cutting me about 2014. Been in stealth mode ever since.

They have got absolutely no clue on this race. Just trying to keep all runners as short as they can. Are the aussies bookies doing opening odds on these meetings now?

Lol the Whale and the commentator saying just get on Demon Blue and run it through your multis it is good value at 1.50 As supposed top analysts they obviously didn't watch its previous two fresh up runs because it went terrible both times and always takes a few runs to get fit. Do not listen to them and do your own research.

I don't anyone will be running a fast last sectional on a 1:21 they will all be gasping.

Goes much better on bigger tracks and grit suits better than grass as well.

Well I hope that is their strategy. Best chance of a win for mine.... Had a bit of a go at the $16 on offer and now in to $10 so I am happy

Its not rocket science just lead and run a around 1:20 equivalent 1400m time for 1500m

Lol pretty much. That and blind faith stakes will continue to increase. Unless there is a major % increase in foal numbers, owners and trainers, harness is still on a downward spiral.

Wouldn't be surprised if Nathan up and left for Australia again next year or so.

Searing Light in the same boat. The run last start saw it dropping out to last after a good run in the trail. Biggest improvement I have seen for a while. Last eight runs before the big turnaround have been last, third last, third last, second last, last, second last, second last, last. Why no stipes questions you might ask? Because the fucked up criteria for any questioning from the stipes appears to be if you run better than fifth in any of the last few starts then you avoid the questioning. Searing Light avoided the stipes report questions by beating two horses home in a six horse field three starts ago. A blind man could see this was the horse to question if there ever were to be questions asked. Were the stipes even working that day or do they only turn up and just count whip strikes all day!