Gammalite

Even though Mr Anderson is 'out of the public eye' doing something on the private property, The guy was breaking the rules as handed down to him when he became licensed by HRNZ , as JJ and Freda have stated. Yes , would be great for him if he could be involved still, but you have to agree (as in all your threads recently from Von Beynon etc, that Image is VERY important, and Harness racing should be seen to 'Back the Courts penalties'. ? Surely NOT having the public know that Harness racing let's convicted person's serving a term of punishment, still prepare horses in a Professional sport without sanction from it . Matt knows that. and is still sneaking around. so his actions another slap in the face to following the rules. makes you wonder about how seriously Matt takes the punishment.? I would hope if serious crime is committed, example a harness licensee mugs an old lady at ATM and steals handbag and gets a year (suspended) sentence, that HRNZ would ban him/her for that year as well.? Helps the IMAGE for the sport, and would HRNZ look community friendly? no stoning necessary.

It's a sport chief, like a Professional sport that needs to Uphold it's image. (these BOAY threads clearly show the damage done by those not willing to adhere to the code of conduct.) Footy players who transgress domestically are often forced out of their professional 'contract' ,even though the charges were nothing to do with their football. They then can play at lower level club level i spose , and that's what you say with Anderson. That he should be able to triain or work a horse at a private establishment. very noble and caring . and probably good rehabilitaton too. BUT , the BIG problem is the preparation of a horse (even at private facilities ) is part of the PROFESSIONAL picture still. People are paying for that horses prep and punters may be punting on it if racing already. So the punishment is/ would be NIL for Anderson , and harness racing , already struggling with image, would not benefit from taking in those Convicted of domestic offences , (until there court conviction time is served)

Yeah Chief, for sure. People really don't know how tough it is with the DQ's for trainers. I know some that had to literally MOVE out off the property, (and pretty much be separated from the family for a year) as most trainers live on the property with their horses, and NO WAY could you just turn a blind eye to them everyday and be involved , If you stayed there, on the property. (RIU in trees to ping you if you pat one?) They transfer the horses to training name of daughter, wife, son-in-law or whoever and go and drive a truck for a year or the like ? very tough. For a harness driver like Anderson, much easier to 'stay away' and NO EXCUSE is valid to be working horses while under a ban.

One comment on this matter from me Chief as have read enough , and now know enough , of every BAD thing going on in NZ harness these days. Other channel even worse. RIU and INCA (with the police help) are CONSTANTLY seeking New evidence and asking Probing questions Where-ever possible , to UNCOVER any illegal activity going on in NZ harness racing. Of course some people ARE going to answer the questions put to them . I would !!!! If you have nothing to hide under the bed (like Darren Weir lol....) then you should be fine. So it is called INVESTIGATING. You can call it LEAK gathering all you like , but they are trying to keep NZ harness clean . a good thing. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And like you say, it is great they find bugger All ! a good thing !!!!!!! p.s Agree if Matt A has sentence of 2 years, then that IS the sentence. should be able to apply to resume harness after that term. because he now chose to 'get in early' and got caught at Burrows, The expelled term should be extended or restart as he has consciously broken the arrangement (punishment)

May has arrived and plenty of kiwis in action and doing well last night in Australia. In Melton Vic, young Nathan Purdon has SPELLBOUND racing now . and with 2 starts for 2 wins in 1.53. Chip off the old block is Nathan? gunna be huge player one day. Couple of Trotters for NZ too. for Kate and Andy Gath we have JUSTAMOLLYARCHER winning as well (4starts for 3wins in Oz) and SWISS MISS won as well. EXPENSIVE EGO won the pacing Gold $200k Group 1 easily in 1.52 jog (what a Superstar !!) best horse here. STAR GALLARIA ran 2nd in the FFA beaten by a freakish good horse called General Dodge. The general only starts twice a year as unsound but usually wins. extroadinary. In Menangle NSW, young Jack Trainer still winning. training and driving Southland pacer MIGHTY FLYING ART to victory (2 from 4 now) in 1.52. and Gammalite favourite ALTA ORLANDO won the FFA at Menangle , (What a grand Horse He is , truly One of the Best) resuming after Miracle mile early March , for owners the Dunn's (more celebrations for them after Rowe Cup victory !) In Albion Brisbane, fuckall happened as usual,(lol)... although superstar Grant Dixon (and his wife Trista ) ran the quinella in the feature $50k 2 yearold race. which was nice. Hey his ex-wife Nat was running the quinella at Auckland !! with her partner Markie in the 2 yearolds feature as well. No stopping the champions. Fab racing and very high standards as usual.

Might be Virus there Brodster ! better to dodge that one. You are right on a few counts IMO , Communism NOT the answer. Hong Kong was handed back from British rule late last century, and the poor locals there have been battling/protesting /rioting, even some deaths, for a while now this century, so not to lose their freedom, and then be under Chinese Communist rule. very sad situation. And the 'Black Lives Matter' BS going on, is racist BS by all the participants . All that crime you mention ,because of it, etc, It really Should be ALL LIVES MATTER. just as our governments have provided for us past year. And yes of Course You won't know Anyone with the virus ? That's Exactly what we are telling you !!! The Health department made that happen . Why complain??. (Although the NSW Health got the blame for disembarking a Covid containing cruise ship and so 28 people died) Anyway have a great week and very happy you are safe and sound (as for all kiwis and ockers) and leave you with a hope and a prayer for the humanitarian total disaster in India, that something improves there soon . geez it's bad.

Yeah think all the posters are Boomers on here BOAY lol. I scraped in as am same age as my mate Markie boy, Mangos and that era of Faaaabulous drivers.!!!

Hey Brodster , just realised I'm a bit older and Glenn Campbell been dead a few years now, but sure you know him. Here's some great words from his song , for anyone reading to enjoy. !!!! Try A Little Kindness Glen Campbell If you see your brother standing by the road With a heavy load from the seeds he sowed And if you see your sister falling by the way Just stop and say, "You're going the wrong way" You've got to try a little kindness Yes, show a little kindness Just shine your light for everyone to see And if you try a little kindness Then you'll overlook the blindness Of narrow-minded people on the narrow-minded streets Don't walk around the down and out Lend a helping hand instead of doubt And the kindness that you show every day Will help someone along their way

Aus just stopped all flights from India. wonder if NZ is doing the same.? For sure yeah ! I think you're right and the continual trickle of people will continue way more than 6 months. In Sydney they dropped the number to 1500 from 3000 per week coming back to the 2 weeks hotel restriction, as not to 'break' the quarantine by too many numbers. I agree they are 'unlikely to pay' the $4k each they spose to. Ardern may make mistakes and do things you don't like (hope there is the odd good thing for you) In the news in Aus she handled the Christchurch massacre well , and seemed popular. I don't support or denounce either party, the Democrats folded here a few years back lol... just kidding. Good to be Kind ! ask Glen Campbell. great song.

haha yeah all good ! thought Ranga and Brodie were after some political debate on this thread. lol. The disrespect is outrageous on both sides. I turn Question Time OFF 1/2 the time, TV parliament ..... hopefully some of the 'Learned' folk can make decisions that HELP our countries, and I am happy to give credit where credit is due. Harness racing could be a good Political distraction? If the parties race/ sponser some horses? Be a bit of 'Team' Driving then !!!! would be great.

Oh well ,maybe the government is Not popular with him either. I wasn't criticising them enough maybe? sometimes they make errors, the Aus Defence Dept had 1500 troops in Afghanistan in recent years. What a fat waste of Millions that was !! Thank the heavens the last 80 troops return in Sept this year and we are finally out of that mess . Providing hotel's for returning travellers (the travellers pay about $4k here) is probably a better idea considering what is happening in India.

sounds like Tasmania as well. lol.. There's a LOT of pensioners and state housing down there. Huge percentage. Just at the end of footy ,and now HIGHWAY COPS came on TV. seriously I can't stop laughing. kiwis are great !! guy just got a pink ticket thing on car and now wandered over for a piss on the fence, (with cops and film crew still there) this is great show !!!! Back at the trots, and Speaking of Tasmania , the Hobart trots last night had 6 races. ONE TRAINER had 40 horses in just 5 of the races. (He skipped race 1 for some reason) So he had 40 horses against just 11 opponents !!! across 5 races. five of those 11 got placings too !! hahahaha Needs some better 'Team driving' I think lol....

No , we definitely don't need to hear about this 'shite' everyday. yeah great if it went away. Not at the front of our domestic news at present. But still pretty big on the World stage. The hotel quarantine is 'extremely necessary' as still people returning from overseas All the time. Aus currently has 300 cases total , of which 72 are in hospital , all quarantined . (thank goodness) could you imagine the chaos in the hospitals and community if we let them all wander ? without the motel/hotel s ? don't think of it as a wasted $1 million. Just watch the WORLD NEWS and see the results , without it. Not seeing is Not Believing seems the problem ?. Example: Whooping cough is making a come-back as 10% of new parents are complacent and/or don't believe in vaccination anymore , BUT when their child comes down with it and is screaming in pain and near death (a small percentage die) from not being able to breathe properly for days on end 100% of that small group deeply REGRET they exposed their child to that type of preventable harm . I say governments DID WELL , and have kept our oldies (some would like to kick on, even if some don't) as Safe as can be, until vaccination kicks in , and they can live without the 'terrifying drowning death' that some ignore. (or just plain haven't seen first-hand , so don't care?) Business can recover/adapt/change. Cancer will continue (sadly) , accidents will happen. (sadly) But the current million/ day is Well Spent !!! people aren't sheep, they are Citizens worth looking after. p.s PANDEMIC (horse) was just in at the Adelaide races !!!, so backed it as an 'omen' while writing just now !!! oh shite it just ran second , Blah ........ that id be right

Not once have I ever Not been so happy to of lived in Aus and NZ. where is better? no-where is answer. A billion people + would want to be here if they could. (and that was before any virus!!) lol.... I'm not scared of death or anything. Just the preventable 'total disruption' to society, that could happen if things went out of control. Who wants clogged hospitals? and funerals? no-one is answer. Therefore my summary is the Health Department has done a sterling job. Financially we are trading fairly well now? SURE, both countries missing the overseas tourist dollar. But am sure the locals can rally and support 'their own' and now Aussies are touring NZ again and kiwis getting here too. !! excellent! why Grizzle ?? grateful is better.....

All good. No deaths is a great statistic. Aus and NZ are going about their business as per normal. I think I had to wear a mask for a total of 6 days (2 x Qld 3 day lock downs this year) not a big price to pay for empty hospitals. Rest of world in chaos. I'm a Grateful Person . Don't care what party is in government as just people doing their jobs (ALP in Queensland) The Health Department makes these decisions. so blaming your PM is irrelevant. We elected the governments to SERVE and PROTECT it's citizen's ! of all AGES and HEALTH CONDITIONS. What a spanking job they have done !!! Mass funerals in so many countries , while we are FREE to FLY across the Tasman Sea now ! excellent . hope the lock-up hasn't got you down or upset too much lol........ go to the races to cheer up ? you can in Aus and NZ.

Hahahaha All round the world Millions (probably Billions) are now wishing their Governments were the NZ and Australian ones, as their countries in total disarray with 10's of thousands dead and dying. US,UK France some of the most developed nations even in disaster. Don't even mention 3rd World like India and Brazil in total Catastrophe. Meanwhile 70,000 at the football in Melbourne last night, Brodie safe in NZ with no deaths . How good is that ??? well done NZ government (and Oz one) did you really want to not isolate and people die Brodie? for the sake of a few jobs and dollars? Go and do something else for a while is the answer. easy. I had change of scenery a few times and is part of the fun of life. !!!! unless you're DEAD. Are you the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing ? lol......

Four Group 1's in one night again!!. this is great. Yeah, John Dunn has his hands on the 2 Trot G1's trophies by the look of it , as they are Hot to Trot at the moment. Mark P may have to look at the other two G1's for his usual win. SUNTAN could do it for him, as the amazing Nat at unlucky 13 alley in the 2 yearold fillies with True Fantasy over 1700m looks a big ask. BUT speaking of amazing, The Auckland Cup holder AMAZING DREAM at $4 sportsbet . thank you very much. !!! Time to send CopyThat back to the also-ran's like in the NZ and A'kld Cups I think lol.......

Sheryl is going great guns. two trifectas training already I believe with her stable runners!, cool!, so for sure she must be itching to drive one of them. Won 50 races from 150 drives to date, (51 after last night?) so sure to get support, and be worthy of a bet. Definitely worthy of graduation from amateur level! The juniors were a strong bunch back in the day too, as young Tony Herlihy and also Mark Purdon in the juniors and you Just couldn't wait for them to graduate out!!! as they absolutely mopped the floor with their rivals lol..... , no matter what they were driving. never beat them once. McKendry and Mangoose were amongst the fray too, at times. Those Big 14 horse fields you always had made it VERY, very, hard to even get a placing. more likely to be On the Deck, lol...with one of those time famous "Not another crash in the probationary race again" scenarios lol.....

It does seem ironic that the race they are targeting has a lot of attrition. Racing Victoria has Already scratched overseas runners after CT scans (Marmelo and Ispolini in 2019) so were somewhat applying a couple of these measures already. Cliffs of Moher (2018 Melbourne Cup fatality) broke a shoulder , so don't know if their scanning will pick up any abnormality before something like that happens. Yeah agreed Chief, Why just Melbourne Cup? english horse won the Queen Elizabeth the other day , is he immune? Like all Athletes that compete at the highest level , the horses (and jockeys) race with past and present injury, and is impossible to predict. (bleeds, etc) , so we will see more 'sad' events as you say. All the runners should get the same access to 'scans', etc, not just some . How is that fair. Overall though each and everyone of these great horses racing would be getting DAILY care and Assessment from Trainer, strapper , track work riders as to their racing condition and ailments. How sound is 'SOUND"? does Moroney need to scan him now been over NZ a couple of times for Auckland Cups internationally? lol (for example)

Seems strange it is a 'tote' event , as given the level of difficulty in driving a race, for people to lose money on say the drive on AllyMae you discussed must be detrimental to the industry (as in putting punters off harness) I sent a horse around in the amateur race at Auckland once for a lovely owner, who had a fairly slow horse. It was run between the Tote races, as a novelty (or like a trial basically) and all the drivers had fun, and a rugby chap drove our filly home first to win the race prize. A big LAZY-BOY recliner !!! lol... the owner was delighted.!!

Just saw the article on The HRNZ site. April 27th. about Sheryl. Calls her 'Strike Rate Sheryl' with 50 wins from 150 drives. That's near as good as Nat ! lol and with about a 10th of the horsepower Nat get's to drive , and against a field of 'learner' drivers hehehe. Totally amazing record !! She is running rings around them with ability. fantastic. reminds me of Kate Gath (vic) Amanda Turnbull (NSW) and the 3 McMullen girls (Qld) who can all jump on 'anything' it seems and get the job done , and just keep winning. They had the Australian Female driving Championship in Tasmania last month with 2 girls from each state (so 12 in total) had a crack drawing randoms through 6 races. The two QUEENSLAND girls ran 1st and 2nd on the final points table !! sisters Danielle and Narissa McMullen . How good is that.? Queensland rules the world lol..... (have to admit Qld would of been 3rd and 4th if Nat and Sheryl turned up to rep for NZ though !!! lol)

It is a Professional sport with very stringent rules for safety and fair play . All of the participants are seasoned professionals born into the industry, qualified and experienced and performing a professional service for their owners (and indirectly the betting public. The amateurs (well they usually do something else, and this is like a hobby) in sport. They should actually 'Pay to be there' (like they are buying the fun) instead of being paid for a professional service. (They probably do get a driving fee though as a courtesy though) In my opinion, now Sheryl Wigg is a Public Trainer , amateur status should be finished, and she shouldn't be in them races now. She is a professional in the industry.

That's great Whippy, yeah the Galah and Karrots have put forward excellent ideas to 'raise revenue' and /or for 'people to have fun' and enjoy the harness racing still in comps or live or on the punt. Brodster even says if they let people on with their bets , they could attract more punters and raise revenue. spose that's true lol...... Pokies are truly designed to HYPNOTIZE as one of the 17 manipulation points , I would suggest. The people playing look like zombies lol. I prefer horses as more traditional and are majestic creatures, and the horsepeople very skilled. Not saying the Computer programmer that 'sets' the Pokies to take peoples money are not skilled, very subtle skill they have lol... , but at Least the horsepeople are Trying to win you, or their owners and themselves, and show their Skill off with some great drives and impressive training feats. And then there's the Horsepower too !!

The problem with machines is invariably they are programmed to make losing selections. People are spinning wheels with NO CHANCE of a victory on most spins. What an utter waste of dollars and total stupidity. I expect every dollar I put on a Horse to have show of victory. Punter's clubs are indeed for people who are 'after a dollar' with minimum effort as well. (like you said relying on an expert to bring home the bacon) Most Punters club's I have been in people have 'Turns' at applying the bets. So that you are part of the action and the fun of it all. Your method suggests giving your money to the 'reputable person' and hope for the best. Where's the fun in that???. I might as well give my $500 to Galah and Brodie , and send them away to TAB and hope they come back with something ? lol.... I did go in a $500 per week Syndicate once. Where 50 persons put in 500 each every week for 6 months. Every Thursday you would receive a e-mail Portfolio of bets for the weekend. (gallops) with how much placed on what runners. Great for TAB and Bookies, heaps of bets going on, and the suggestion you would be in 'front' and have some horses to follow. The problem was it was No Fun. was like they were guessing half the time . Things you wouldn't think were a chance with $4k on them and all this sort of stuff. Hard to enjoy the racing like that. So once the 6 month sign -up period was up , didn't do that again. pretty much finished financially not far off where started. (and the challenge of selecting winner yourself is Way Better and fun )

Well the gambling dollar is what is needed to keep the harness racing afloat . 'Customers' can be the 2 types . Ones that love horses and want to be part of the fun (race a horse, etc like Karrots) or in it for the money. the Punters. your Punters club is a great idea, but you need 'regular participation' (on but mainly off course due to distances) and a product you can actually win off. The huge problem is , the enjoyment can diminish rather quickly , once the bets stop coming in. Blame for bad drives, bad horses galloping out the back and just Plain Old BAD SELECTIONS. Is often the case some of the 'Investors' get very agitated because the thing that galloped out the back , they wouldn't of backed themselves in a fit. So they Go Away and do their own thing next time, which is actually more sensible. The gamblers would rather jam $100 in a pokie and get 'some' results even though likely to put it all back in , even if a win comes up. Pubs and clubs do fine, but without the 'Knowledge of Brodie lol....' not many gunna jam $100 on trotters. (and get any thrill out of it, unless they jag the winner. therefore unlikely to try again next race. They just become more critical of the sport if anything. A huge chunk of the active supporters/competitors with the horses are from family involvement . generational. even myself when think about it. But someone mentioned how the new 'tech generation' have so much more on , and variety. like the farmers who have had a farm for generations with stock or agriculture, the young ones all off to the city , etc, so as the last of the late 90's persons retire and expire the land sold off and end of a hundred+ year era in a lot of cases. very common Nz and Aus.