Gammalite

oh Noooooooo American dealer 2 points for Karrots ??? is this the end ??

2 points with Spankem for you Karrots ? lol did youmthink you could beat th amazing Nat ??? hahahaha

Yes 4th all you deserve Karrots !!!! lol what a pain this next . why not give Tony a drive , Comm'on Nat

Forget the prie Tag Karrots. that was 2 points for Cameron and mrs Green and Gammalite 12 points each !!!!

No Freddie Mercury getting the job done for Gammalite with Bohemian Rhapsody . blah .... tony going too early. Mark came up short for the Chief in the Oaks as well second with Wanna Play with Me. So Karrots hangs on to the 2 point lead. blah lol.....

2 points for Karrots and Miki Montana in that Big Bar Quinella . 12 Points for Karrots . What a gun !!!!! Cameron hangs on for third so Gammalite 10 points . com'on Tony what you doin' ?

Toooooonnnnneeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2l for Bolt for Brilliance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9 points for Gammalite . what can you do now Karrots ?>??? the pressure is on ??????????

Is this a FIXED contest Karrots ??? hahahahha lol........... you on 10 points already. Did you notice Tony Cameron winning the last 2 races. ???? brings Gammalite back into it with 6 points? The Honey Queen part owner the lovely Trish Green (battling breast cancer) so loved seeing it win.

No worries Brodster. I like that you say what you think. that's the whole idea of a good forum. (have fun though) AND very sorry the TAB has done you bad, I hate that, and wish you well. Blair was UNFORTUNATELY over the required limit . SO was drunk according the rules , and got a penalty. whether you like it or not. He's back now , so Onward and Upwards !!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry I got that wrong , should be last SIX (6) Auckland Cups , after the Amazing Dream Win . Pretty good eh ??? HaveFaith In Me, DreamAboutMe, Vincent, TurnItUp, SelfAssured,AmazingDream ..... absolutely REMARKABLE.

you tell me Hunter. Don't like stable that wins the last 5 Auckland Cups? and should of been the last SEVEN (7) NZ CUPS except Smolda galloped and got beaten a head by Kerryn Manning (with Allstars owners anyway) and Arden Rooney. Drunk from all the wins. where are your favourites?

Gammalite wrong , it was cantering like a thoroughbred up behind the gate the first time, and caused a False start by disrupting the second line behind the mobile. THEN GOT A SECOND CHANCE ?????? and led easily? Stopped bad in the straight though. so what do ya do with 100k horse now?

There goes the second in the North . Zac Butcher 2nd ?? Karrots on SHE's NO LADY (ain't that the truth) as now 5 points.

Is that Nat ?? OMG Can't belive I didn't take her . shit shit shit . What a gem she is. Orange third ? means Brodster on 4 Points and the current leader of the world. that sucks lol.....Hunter and Karrots on 3 points.

Lap it up Brodster while you can, cause Karrots has drawn level with Zac taking the first race in the north !! 3 points each ? Are you going on a 3-2-1 basis Karrots ? for the comp?

First win is up and BRODSTER !! well done son ! the 'drinks' are on you with the win points there for Orange .

Well time is nearly up . the first about to go. So here are the nominations Brodie = the drink driver Orange + Stormont (a roughie that he likes) Hunter has gobbled up Nat Rass (a winner in anyones book) and Scott Phelan (Hunter loves Purdon Runners) Chief has Sam Ottley (as wants La Rosa to score up and WIN) with David Butcher (the Chief !!!) Rangatira has Ricky May and Scott Phelan (deserves some of the best) JJ FLASH has Mark Purdon (the very best) and Andrew Drake ( might win with Emma Frost , but no-one wants him to win the comp lol....... Forbs/haveago/dunedin /retardeddriver Ben Hope ONLY !!! good luck forbs ! you know you love him !!!! lol..... Gammalite has Tony Herlihy and Tony Cameron wow ! give me the cheque! Karrots has Z Butcher and BIG TIM Williams (think my cheque is a dud) ELJAY has T Mitchell and J Dunn ( karrots cheque might be cactus?) DAVIS for Ben Butcher and Gerard O'Reilly (Davis normally the best judge too) The GALAH not much left for him ???? Nathan Williamson so he has Regazzo? and Todd macfarlane ? has drives.

Chief does a brilliant job here Brodie as you suggested !!! bravo. No good chucking mud at someone like JJ , just because he respects the NZ champions and you don't. You far more likely to support drink drivers , rather than your leading stables. Why don't you chill for a change , instead of 'wanking On' about TAB issues and join the fun and nominate your favourite drivers in Karrots competition about to start? too much fun for you ?

weren't you a Chief fan?? If you have Nat (south Island) and the Chief (north Island selection) you are home and hosed and Karrots has to give you the prize?

Too hot to handle ? man or woman?. your selection for driving honours in this comp Hunter ?

great Comp Karrots !! I pick Tony Herlihy's wife and my dentist's wife (who I chatted to for 1/2 hour yesterday ,after some dental work) then she took my $400 anyway, lol . wait!!.. No that's who I would like to take for a drive, lol.... To drive at the races........Let's Have at the races Tony Cameron driving for Tony in the north , and Tony H driving for Tony in the South. Nat is up for 'catch of the day' ?? Who can handle her ?

Better with no Whip then. Sorry about the tedium , but is a VERY very relevant and Current topic. (most important) AND will continue. Your last sentence 'rings true' with the Opie ride. He knew exactly how much to use it and get the win in that feature race. he is very experienced. Sensational judgement and worthy of praise. Great win it was. I have chipped in, as is concerning that Thomass and Horace want to go on the Horse Injured routine. I , and am very sure you, and all the readers would like to think these champion jockeys are Not trying to injure a horse. IF so, BAN WHIPS IMMEADIATELY. 25 years of race driving and vet assistant duties for me, and NOT ONCE have I had to treat a Whip Injury ? Is nice to think the horses welfare is protected by Stewards , Trainers, Jockeys , everyone. A jockey whipping 5 times is exactly the same TO THE HORSE as a jockey whipping 10 times. horses don't count. Surely the whips are designed to Not inflict Injury ?? just reaction. sorry to hear about the fillies you mention. Are they softer than the colts ?

Exactly my argument !! thank you Horace. Currently this thread about Opie cheating via number, and Currently horses being 'Harmed' with welts and drawing Blood ?you said with severity and strength. HOW is a horse with a 'Strong' jockey giving it 5 'Welts' (and all the pain that goes with it apparently), before the 100m mark, NOT any worse off than a horse with the Opie whip strikes.? answer/ It's not any better off at All. ............But the jockey is Not called a Cheat lol....... silliness prevails.

Well a food allergy or an insect bite causes welts as well. You could call it injury if you want, but more of a skin reaction. I remember Stewards often inspecting horses rumps to ascertain whether any 'welts' or ('Blood?, which Horace said he has seen , would be barbaric, but myself never seen that) was present. To their credit , and yours to , They are ALWAYS concerned for Horse welfare. Surely , surely, surely the whip supplied is Padded and designed to not cause Any harm to the animal. (like a Boxer wears Padded gloves and can smack you in the face) a horse bit tougher than a boxer. You and Horace think every horse in Pain and harm ?? THAT is BAD , and I would fully agree only solution is throw it away if that was the case. (No good limiting use as is current Horace) no matter how you spell it out. My protest is about this Stupid number the Rules bandy about. . Why is a Horse not harmed or in pain at the 100m mark ? ?? Same for all horses and jockeys. not by number.

Such a hypocritical response Horace. So carry on about the Pain, Welts, thrashing BUT approve Limited Whip. lol..... at least Thomass wants to ban it. OK for a Jockey to whack 5 times ? Doesn't that leave Welts ? Of course it can. Your arguement says LIMITED use doesn't harm the horse, but 'The Opie ride' for example did ? People and Jockeys aren't Monsters! welfare of horses is paramount to those in the racing industry. Whips have been inspected for decades. All clear wasn't given Until a steward went on the track and Literally felt up and down the drivers whip in case something not legal in use. The padded whips these days are designed in a way to be not as harsh as previous models. A horse is a pretty tough animal Horace. they CANNOT differentiate between 5 strikes or 10. Isn't one strike on your dog or child examples too much? Are you fighting for Horse Welfare or Not? you say they're in pain . this whole arguement is a pain. but limited use ok?. hypocrisy.