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Certainly enjoys his racing . Knows all the horses and trainers and that going back for years. You're probably ahead of him assessing 'Track conditions ' though Chief. Maybe we should use him as the BOAY rep in the run to save Alexandra Park from it's demise ?. I have a new method/theory/idea/ we could use to Save the day and Pay the ATC debt. and have the best harness racing in the Southern Hemishere. 👍🏆🙂

Nigel and Family got a nice reward with BOUNCE n BEYOND winning a Golden Gait for them in December. He resumes tonight for first start since that win, so with you mentioning the dedicated man Nigel , might as well have a tenner on it in Race 5, to cheer him on . Go The Bouncer !!! 🦘🦘💰

you can't get out in that weather mate .😆 I just saw the Addington and Auckland forecasts today and it is lousy lousy. think it said 11 and 14 (during the day ? ) talk about live in a freezer. Some of unhinged Videos of the Winners during the week at Addington looked like they were battling a blizzard almost. 😎 You kiwi's are Super tough. Some of his videos at the beach of Dunns training just leave you shivering. am eternally grateful for the 10 months a year didn't even have to wear a jacket training in QLD . ☀️ t shirt, shorts and helmet ☀️ and away you go. our Mid winter days it still usually reaches 20 degrees during the day. great for training all year round.

NoworNever just above is suggesting it's a travel and experience thing for those Telfer runners . Seems a bit cruel on Punters and owners if that is the case. Can't they get them fit at home anymore ?

seems a particularly weak field for Akatea's race. The other Telfer one that Newmarket mentioned is up against much better horses and trainers? . Cocktails and Cav is only showing $1.90 ?? as well in race 1 😳, And 2 of it's 3 wins were over a year ago. Up against some good trainers like Regan Todd, Mark Jones and Steven Reid in the first race , CandC seems only a runners chance?. TakethePlunge (No 7) looks the one to beat for me with Ricky May on, from 1 then 2 and 5 for the First4.

getting too Cynical😋 . I loved Craig Ferguson late last year when driving Marketplace brilliantly , and also winning the NZ Derby too at 15-1 ( We Walk By Faith ) , but after a 'Bit Of A Yarn arguement' converted me to serving it up to him as well😉 . Getting beat on Marketplace a couple of times lately , and Mo and DSD . we're a fickle bunch🤣. Yeah , get Nathan to lift his game too 😋 Allstars owners don't need the cash at all Chief. so don't see them selling very often. Chris Alford is probably staying with them . and is driving the Queen too.(Queen Elida In the Rowe Cup) .The trainer ex-pat Brent Lilley learnt the trotters craft at Roy and Barry Purdons a long time ago , before shifting to Victoria and doing very well . Think he won an Interdominion Trot final once.

They have 8 runners tonight in some good races. Let's see how they go then. I'd back some of them with Natalie or Mark driving.they just don't go the same for Blair ( nor Cox for years of trying either ) Interestingly Chief , In a feature Group 2 tonight the Delightful Lady Classic. Chris Alford from Victoria is driving one of the Allstars runners , while the Victorian Favourite Ripples is being driven by Mr Orange. ?? that All seems a bit wierd to me ? is Blair hired help to prepare the Allstars or not? Nathan should just hit the Gym and lose some kilos and drive them himself. stop that sort of thing happening .Nathan drove quite a few winners in Aussie once. Just being a bit lazy getting the Big training bucks from the millionaire owners I think 🤣😂 would do him good.

Terrific summary of some great results TABman. the question was . Why have they dropped off the winners list a bit lately ? The Galah thinks since Natalie left she took the 'gear supply' chain with her lol. (I doubt that, but it's not out of the realms of possibilities ) he thought Covid disrupted the supply. something he can argue with Chief about. The Galah thinks with Blair driving/ training at home the team they should continue winning the same. I disagree and as you mentioned earlier he doesn't train his own , nor driven the Interdominion winner , nor many things. Mark has had Lazarus conquer everything. (Lazarus the best NZer ever) and Natalie had Blacks A Fake conquer everything ( Blackie being the best Aussie ever (until superseeded by old hubby Grant with Larry recently )) Therefore the Amazing Dream ( love the pun there 😂 ) combo of MARK and NATALIE we're always gunna Smash the Australasia world together. And they Did. Chief thinks the Allstars results are still fine. But most have noticed the drop off in number of wins even though the prizemoney is still good from placing in the Big races . ( e.g were 2nd in the Betcha race to Larry to earn good money) Anyway . it's great seeing Regan Todd , and Carter and Hayden winning the Big ones these days . apart from the Aussies. Note the Vic's have Emma Stewart sent a runner over to beat the Allstars tonight at Alexandra Park tonight as well . You guys are bleeding winners to the Aussie bleeders real bad now , with Aussies turning up all the time lol. 😎 The QLD trotter looks a bit weak though in the Rowe Cup tonight though 🙄. You should win that 🤣. Hope Ben Hope doesn't get cleaned up by the stable-mate at the start again like last week lol 🤣 silly standing start.

wow that was amazingly BAD. the Stonewall Lot had 18 starters at Manawatu the 2 days this week (where they run about a slow 60 second last half generally) for a return of 2 x 3rds (from the same horse Captains Secret ) he is the stable star picking up $1000 twice. wow that is such a waste of everyone's time and money ( punters too) that it defies belief . Luckily they have Good filly Stella Rouge at home in the stable with her 2 wins from 3 starts this year , but even with her must be slightly disappointed with the Great Northern Oaks 4th. The man of the moment in this thread Mr Dickie, didn't even finish the race in the GN Oaks with Sweet Maggie Mae. just pulled up 🙄 . John Dunn won with her the week before ? better hands maybe ? The Telfer Barn(s) is very Erratic. lots of runners 'hopping' and 'skipping' during the running quite often too.

Also won the 3 yearold Sires stakes 9 years in a row at the Cup carnival to underline their Young Horse Domination as well. Winning it the past 2 years with Don't Stop Dreaming and Chase A Dream ( both driven by Natalie) Their NZ Cup form has been Great. I don't Believe you for a Moment picking on that race. Mark and Nat Quinella in 2020 . Self Assured a Big winner from Spankem . Then Natalie sort of retired when Amazing Dream won the Auckland Cup not long after. so the Allstars haven't won the past 4 years. . 2 NZ Cups won by COPY THAT and 2 Cups by SWAYZEE . Akuta ran 4th as a 3 yearold then a very good 2nd to Swayzee before breaking down . then Don't Stop Dreaming did everything but Win the last New Zealand Cup . (Blair did ok lol 😂 ) top runs really. So the last 4 New Zealand Cups have seen Top shelf ALLSTARS performances still . Even though they didn't win them. Copy That ( that bloody Orangeman again 🤣) and Swayzee ( that bloody Grimson twice ) stuffed things up 4 times in a row . and they said bad luck only comes in threes ?? 😋 . probably cost me 10k in winnings too lol . but them the breaks 🙄.

Absolutely 100% Chief. Their style saw a lot of Big wins come their way. You only had to watch Natalie get the Plugger 'The Fixer' home first in the NZ Cup one year to see how good they went for her. And clean swept the board with 'Ultimate Sniper' at the last Interdominion run in NZ with domination , beating the locals and the Aussies. I respect what the Galah was saying about that Blair Orange has helped them for years and years, but he is not as 'tuned in' to the horse as Mark and Natalie . comes from concentrating on One team . helps a lot too. Hardly Any outside drives as a distraction. Mark and Nat are at the Top of Mt Everest on the World Stage. Mr Orange is just at the Top of Mt Cook on the NZ stage. there's a wee bit of difference. Not hard to see why they lost a couple of lengths.

exactly it. and the major brand of Allstars officially retired with that Big Auckland Cup Quinella 4 years ago with Amazing Dream. The commentator even saying at the end of that contest. "Thanks for the memories ". Hayden Cullen then tried to run the ship , but had limited success before defecting to Telfers. Now doing quite well branching out on his own from there ( with help from wifey ) won the Group 1 NZ Derby Dec and the GN Oaks just last week. Mark did a great job for decades , after winning the Interdominion for his dad Roy and brother Barry with Mark Hanover at Auckland in the early 90's. what a champ he has been. A 'Job well done' retirement looming large. Lately just trying to get/keep his son Nathan (as well as those old millionaire owners that don't really need any more success lol 😂) well established in the game .Nathan must do most of the hands on. Olivia T even left them and went to Cullens to try and get some drives. Wonder what happened to son Michael ? he had the one trotter 'Mystic Max' he races/trains. Wonder why does No other horses? or helps Allstars? while he has the star 'golden dad' opportunity.

Found it thanks. Looks like one of the Brodsters TIPS just got the money too. Fair few collecting .👍😂 reminds me of when you could back the Allstars with confidence. 💰😋

You're All good to go mate. You're not in Country Victoria so should be safe . and INCA has been called off NZ there so Police not interested in the slightest with the good old Manawatu trots. Forbury's is saying Don't back the 'Dickie' Bird though , driving Telfers tomorrow. better dodge him then. So I'm ALL -In on a few Crystal Hackett - Harrison Orange Quinella's instead. The new mana bright lights will help me find the right window to collect at .👍💰🍞

Greg's wife Jess has popped in 3 runners that Greg has campaigned for years all round the Place , with 3 of his good friends driving in honour to the great horseman. Looks a Special for the Trifecta with Auckland Cup winner Better Eclipse , old NZ warrior Triple Eight ( who still has some NZ owners I think ) and is up to start 160 in this and closing in on $1,000,000 earned bit by bit. The 3rd horse ''Rock n Roll Hammer' is a foal of 'Twist and Twirl' , the 2022 NZ Broodmare of the year, so is a half brother to the great 'King Of Swing' . but only half as good as well 😉. Old Clevedon trainer John Newberry still going strong. Had all the 'Brydon' named horses years ago with his dad and uncle . see his son driving the number 1 here. Here it is . The Vale GREG SUGARS FFA , to be run Saturday night at Melton. VALE GREG SUGARS FREE FOR ALL 1720M $22,500 No NR. PBD/L4$. PACERS. Mobile 1ST LEG QUADDIE, 1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE Form Horse Trainer Other Eng. Driver Class Hcp 1 30892 DIAMOND ECLIPSE John Newberry Matt Newberry NR74 FR1 2 75765 CURLY JAMES Courtney Laker David Moran NR115 FR2 3 35305 OUR VINCENT CAN GOGH NZ Julie Douglas Ellen Tormey NR93 FR3 4 38323 TANGO TARA NZ Andy Gath Kate Gath NR120 FR4 5 51550 TRIPLE EIGHT NZ Jess Tubbs Kerryn Manning NR118 FR5 6 12227 ROCKNROLL HAMMER NZ Jess Tubbs James Herbertson NR99 FR6 7 13123 YAMBUKIAN Andy Gath Kate Gath NR120 FR7 ------------------------------ Second Row ------------------------------ 8 21186 CAPTAIN BELLASARIO Jayne Davies Jack Laugher NR95 SR1 9 146s7 BETTER ECLIPSE Jess Tubbs Craig Demmler NR118 SR2

No they haven't Crashed crashed in a crash and burn Chiefy. It's just they are not winning the features like they used to. Still good bucks being earned . 'Chase A Dream' a great 2nd in the BETCHA million recently to 'Leap To Fame' . but horses like VESSEM , good enough for 2nd in the NZ Derby in December for example just had the 2 x 3 yearold wins, and as a 4 yearold this year has come back with 2 wins from 7 starts and $34,000 . very modest by previous Allstar standards. DEMON BLUE , good enough for 2nd to Marketplace in a Group 1 ACE race in November, back now as a 3 year old has zero wins from 5 starts and is struggling to keep up. Even the very best Allstars runners Oscar B trotting , with one win from 4 starts since returning from Oz ( and that win was a 5 horse field) is getting beat. and best Pacer Chase A Dream Only has one (1) win from his last 8 starts, and was beaten in both the BIG race features at Addington in the Velocity and the NZ Derby. you can bet against their horses now. The Allstars stable not winning like they used too. The racing is Great still though !!! well done NZ harness.

I think you see some valid points through the ideas. Newmarket posted one of the treatments that posters at this site didn't like years ago, early in this thread . and seems rightly so, as the method is going to be regulated . Make no mistake that the best horses around get the best most expensive treatments. Chief and Galah argue often about where the 'gear' comes from . and availability. well that is up to each Trainer. All horses get some treatments of one type or another , just like any racer under stress . E.g those crazy cyclists in Europe that perform super human feats day after day in the Grand tours. Many like Lance Armstrong are caught out eventually via one method or another if breaking prescribed rules and limits. same for horses. (or their trainers) All these NZ harness trainers are fine horsemen (and women) who most have been doing horses all their lives . They are always going to be competitive, even as the next generation catches up. They are working hard at it 7 days a week , and quite a few stables are Sharing the Limelight at present. ALLSTARS have won stacks of races , especially across the generation that included Natalie Rasmussen. Now they have shifted location and structure and persons working the horses, things change. Not just the treatments. so with this thread the figures (race results) are showing , that you can now Bet against the Allstars , and get a run for your money nearly all the time now. I respect their past results and always used to take them in my selections. but am currently quite happy to bet against them now. Didn't include any of their (ALLSTARS) nine runners in my bets at Auckland on Anzac Day so thought their aura is over as have been a big fan and often took their runners as anchors. they didn't win a race , and the great stables that Won the 5 x Group 1's Friday are well and truly' up in their photo finishes now.

Com'on Galah. The guy was just pushing his own personal agenda , like a big elephants arse , and you know it. It perfectly obvious . Didn't even have the decency to mention Greg by name but quite happy to try and discredit his Medical decisions that he knows ZERO about. Not a skerritt of respect for the dead. Complete Zero knowledge of Greg's medical condition. don't support that sort of comment. terrible and callous. Anyway , I didn't know Greg personally but his contribution to the harness world was first class. Not only by preparing his team with his wife Jess Tubbs. to Win a heap of top races . He was used for his driving talents, by some of the greatest stables going including the leading one of Emma Stewart. thankfully, Brittany Graham had some lovely words on Instagram yesterday where she posted her tribute while attending Invercargill for Trackside TV. they would of broadcast her as well . more fitting words than posted by some. RIP Greg.

Well stick your head back in the elephant arse , since you're looking around too much making up Total Crap and showing no respect for a recently departed great of the harness racing world. Not even a nice comment to make about the great man , the late Greg Sugars, but a stain on a thread with people passing on their condolences. You would know ABSOLUTE ZERO about Greg Sugars health condition/history and come out with this rot. It's perfectly Obvious you should pull your head back in .

Craig got the job done by not giving in to John Dunn with his attack of throwing all the 'Chocolates' at him. A very convincing Win in FAST time by Marketplace. He is the real deal alright. lucky he drew ONE. 😋 Craig back to 'helping' Nathan Williamson in the the Southern Oaks today in the deep South. Got the previously unbeaten Filly 'UTAH Jazz' well beat with a poorly rated drive out in front . Just went faster than he needed too and gassed her lights out. Probably thinking the fast tempo would suit stablemate Captain's Mistress I spose. she didn't win it anyway. wonder how WAG Star will go today ? can he drive a winner or not lol 🤣 Don't know how CFerguson gets all these good horses to drive ? is he the best free lancer going or something ? possibly better than Jonny Cox I spose.🤔 Got one fluke narrow win with 'Don't Stop Dreaming' for Cullens (from 5 back on the fence at the 1/4 mile ) and then a couple of average drive's on him afterwards. and got Marketplace beat with a couple of average efforts at AKLD past month. 🙄

only a very young man. something has gone terribly wrong. Trotting has the Interdomion as it's Traditional Pinnacle of success. Greg dominating with the Grand trotter JUST BELIEVE , clean Sweeping 2 series in a row . all 3 heats and then the Grand Finals at Melton 2022 and Albion Park Brissie 2023. Greg nearly winning the Pacers Grand Final in 2023. with BETTER ECLIPSE running 2nd to the local hero named Leap To Fame (always hard to beat) NZ Cup winner Swayzee was 3rd. But just prior to that Greg had his BIGGEST Interdominion Thrill winning his first one in 2021. with a horse trained by an ex-pat New-Zealander , and here he is with MAORI LAW (defeating the kiwi 'Majestic Man' of Williamsons and his own future star 'Just Believe' was 3rd before he took over the training . A great story here for the great man Greg Sugars . RIP Greg. the harness racing scene will miss you deeply. Square-gaiters will have plenty to 'play for' in 2023. Sugars strikes to give Brosnan an epic double December 11, 2021 Michael Court WINNING one Inter Dominion Trotting Championship is pretty special. But to back up and win another one – 42 years later Fullstop or comma. well, that’s the stuff legends are made of. Yet that’s what Richard Brosnan did with Maori Law at Tabcorp Park Menangle tonight, as leading reinsman Greg Sugars scored a commanding win in the $150,000 TAB-sponsored Trotting Championship, leading most of the way to beat Majestic Man and Just Believe by one and a half metres in a 1:59.4 mile rate over the marathon 3009m journey. Maori Law is co-trained by Brosnan and his son Emmett in Victoria and it was Richard, regarded as a legend in the sport, who won with No Response at Christchurch way back in 1979. For Emmett and Sugars, though, it was their first win in this big feature – and it was a night to savor. “I’m on cloud nine, I’m just over the moon with this,” said Sugars as he trotted back to the enclosure.

oh well , at least they are still in business and supporting the industry there at the links . you might get your 'Mana' back at the 'Watu' if you visit there? 😉 . One things for sure is you that won't find the Brodster hanging around there 🤣.

Ranga has lost his Mana ? what happened young fella ? follow too many Brodster Tips ? 🤣😋

the rich NULLIBOR slot race ran last night in the Wild West. Swayzee tried to sit in the breeze and out-stay them. Came up a bit short in 4th beaten a length. Got the leader Minstrel beat too by attacking . finished in a 1.54 mile rate. Three NZ breds were the TOP 3 , picking up 100's of 1000's dollars each. they'll be back in NZ to buy some more soon so keep the breeding going boys. The amazingly successful 'Hall' and 'Bond' teams filling the placings. (the Halls winning millions with I'm TheMightyQuinn a while back including 3 Interdominions.) 2nd horse old HEZA SPORT from Canterbury still part owned by CJ DeFillipi, and the 3rd placed MINSTREL still part owned by many kiwi's including Robin Butt and his wife. So an Excellent New Zealand result. Not sure if any of these owners of the new Nullibor Champ MISTER SMARTEE are in NZ or not?? but here's the results with the winners names . Congrats to them !!!🏆💰 $1,250,000 No NR. RBD. PACERS. Mobile Results Pl Horse Prize- money Row & Br TAB # Trainer Driver (C = Concession) Mgn (m) Starting odds Stewards' Comments 1 MISTER SMARTEE NZ Fr7 7 Gary Hall Snr Gary Hall Jnr $ 8.00 3WE L1W BAY GELDING 5 by ALWAYS B MIKI USA out of LUNA DANZA (NZ) (STONEBRIDGE REGAL USA) Owner(s): S L Beven, D T Roberts, G L Moore, S W Waters, J R Fairweather, R Patriarca, F Patriarca, A Merrington Breeder(s): Dancingonmoonlight Limited 2 GEE HEZA SPORT NZ Fr5 5 G F J Bond, S A Bond Luke McCarthy 2.10 $ 31.00 GS L1W 3 MINSTREL NZ Fr4 4 G F J Bond, S A Bond Deni Roberts 2.40 $ 2.30 fav GS L 1 4 SWAYZEE Sr1 10 Jason Grimson Cameron Hart 2.80 $ 3.60

People don't waste their punting dollar like they used too Brodster. I'm a big supporter of NZ harness and didn't put much on. and when you see what happened to Muscle Mountain ( stupid standing start stuff once again destroying a race) you wouldn't bet on that with stolen money. The racing was terrific as usual though , and you missed seeing 2 of the best NZ has racing stride to victory in Marketplace ( breaking the track record in his 7 lengths win ) and Republican Party with one of your fav's Carter Dalgety driving a great race and taking the spoils. At great punting Appeal too drawn the Ace. so you miss out on all the South Island glory by not being open to investment with all those lovely South Island winners at the'' Ribbon of Light' A simple 1 - 1 - 1 multi from the pole draws for a Tenner. Arafura (Oaks) - Marketplace (Derby) - Republican Party (Messenger ) = $400 for 10 bucks mate. Let's face it Brodie old mate, you have lost your punting touch Brodster if scratching around Addington with the 'slow' horses looking for a quid 🤣😂😂 makes the collects a bit slow too lol 😉