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A five star performance again from Ranga , sweeps up the 8 points. very well done !! If someone names a horse Rangatira it would go out favourite in the Interdominion on that form. What a great night of racing that was in 2001. The NZ Cup Winner Yulestar turned up to demolish them in the Final after a couple of 2nd placings in the heats. the great Courage Under Fire not even close to beating him . Jim Smith's old trotter Mountain Gold, that he sold to Barry Purdon finished a fine 2nd to Take A Moment in the trot Grand final final. 3rd home was Special Force to round out the NZ Trifecta 💰💰💰👍 . Special Force a fine Trotter who himself had WON the Interdominion Trot Final at Auckland 2 years earlier 1999 for trainer Dave McGowan and driver Todd McFarlane . here he goes winning at Alexandra Park with someone beating Marky boy for a change . Special Force. (Mark Purdon's 4 runners were 2nd ,4th, 7th , and 8th) with Mountain Gold 5th for Jim blocked in 3 back the fence as the chance of Interdominion Glory blocked along with him sadly 😪 )
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Day 2 Horse another NZ ripper. Points update : (Day 1 comp points : Rangatira 6 points with a clean sweep of the 6 answers ) With LEAP TO FAME winning the last Albion Park Interdominion Grand Final , and a Red hot favourite to repeat next month, we can find a better NZ result from earlier on at Albion Park. Todays horse seen here winning was part of a NZ Bred First 4. 1/ Who is todays winning horse and driver in photo ? 2/ 2nd home was a double heat winner bred in NZ , out of mare RAIN GIRL, who raced in a grand Final herself behind Gammalite at Auckland. 3rd home was a NZ trained and driven horses by a Pair of Famous Brothers . Can you name the Brothers ? Clue = they won the Trotting Grand Final very easily this same night. Who might that trotter of been ? n.b NZ trained trotters ran a terrific trifecta in a dominant display 3/ Name the 4th horse ? sorry he only got his nose in the photo 😁 . clue = a NZ champ who was series hot favourite and I think this stallion was undefeated in NZ , and won a swag in Aus after. This was as close as he got in 3 Grand Finals attempts though, which damaged his reputation a bit , trying to Win the greatest race there is for his CV.
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Tassie worse off then NZ. with the cost of everything these days , they have gone completely broke. Long time ago since Boony and Punter Ponting carried the place in the cricket 😂. (33% of adult Tasmanians already live on a pension of one type or another) I just did a small bit on Tassie horse in the BOAY harness section that was repping for NZ winning the Interdominion . Stanley Rio. my dad went to NZ with Halwes (a Top Tassie horse like Stanley Rio ) in the 60's as the Farrier, which is how I come to be in NZ for some years. HALWES won his Interdominion heats at Alexandra Park in track record times but scratched from the final in a Bookie sting. HALWES won the Miracle Mile in Sydney 3 weeks later 😁. anyway , back to Tassie and > with losing $400,000,000 cost blowout on the 'Spirit of Tasmania 'ferries ( the Bass Strait ones between Tas and Vic) the government has gone belly up and can't afford the New Stadium (would be near a billion?) the current State Liberal gov promised to build to before 2027 when Tas is supposed to enter the AFL competition. it's just total chaos with their budget now. So last week they had a VOTE of NO CONFIDENCE in the leader !!! the 'Aye's' won 15-14 , so now they are facing another election . Labor have swept the votes in the Federal Parliament Canberra in the recent national election. so guess Labor will win easy Tasmania and take up the challenge of a completely broken (broke) place? . whatta mess.
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Also on an Interdominion flavour. Just now at Albion Park young Riley Butt , son of ex-pat Lyell Creek trainer Tim Butt trained the winner Bottecelli. Was only going to run second but the Long Odds on favourite JillibyGiddy Jumped the dark Shadow of the large floodlight Pole 100m out.🙄 Lucky he didn't do a Liquid Lightning NZ Derby trick ? The previous race TAYLAD TO USE from the North Island having his 2nd start for Grant won easy. Last week the Punters got burnt when he ran 4th first up at $2.40. They didn't back up today and he went from $2.40 opening out to $3.50 lol. The Trot field is out for next Saturday night too with Nz champ Oscar B v GUS a big highlight as they prepare for the Interdom next month. Sanderson is down to drive Oscar B and Rubira NZ for Marky on Saturday night. bit risky putting him on lol. but he might fluke it like he just did on Botticelli for Riley Butt 🤣
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Yep , foaled in Tasmania (like both George and John in earlier years before shifting to Canterbury. Roydon Lodge? Owner Wayne Francis who was thirds in ownership with George and John ( tragically died at Young age 56 cancer) in blue suit seen with George after winning the 1976 NZ Cup. and then the win here at this years venue of Albion Park Brisbane when we went the wrong way round. Corrected a couple of years after Stanley Rio had won here. Wayne Francis became a NZ HALL of Famer with helping establish Nevele R and Spreydon Lodge, to set up Standardbred breeding for years to come. Many horses with the FRANCO in front of their names . Well done Ranga !!!
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Here's the race. !! anyone can have a crack . Even galloping folk are most welcome. Points for picking place getters, Quinella, or BIG points if you nail the Trifecta. Post your 3 (Three ONLY please) numbers of your selections here. The Race is Race 8 Menangle today run at 7..48 NZ time. A true Interdominion flavour to it with 6 old beautiful horses that have won in NZ as well as OZ. (marked with a NZ beside their name in this field ) they are now in the twilight of their careers but still toughing it out on a slow Tuesday , giving it their best shot. 1 80959 WAVETHEBILL NZ KerryAnn Morris Lochie Painting (C,3) FR1 2 88085 HES A MEISTER NZ Chris Judd Cameron Hart FR2 3 42758 AMERICAN HAMMER NZ David Aiken Bailey McDonough FR3 4 53762 RED REACTOR NZ Ian Wilson Jim Douglass FR4 5 89976 TINDER SURPRISE NZ J A Rando, M J Rando SCRATCHED SCR 6 44943 PROMISING Leon Jurd Will Rixon FR5 7 11476 VINKE B NZ Trevor Munday Chris Geary FR6 8 466s4 JORDY NZ Kevin Pizzuto Joshua Gallagher FR7 9 88860 CAULONIA COURAGE Troy Williams Robert Morris FR8 10 69459 SAHARA SIROCCO Trevor Munday Ashleigh Delosa (C) FR9
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Todays Champion a true Interdominion horse . He is seen winning the final here for New Zealand. 1/ Who is our horse and driver ? 1/ What track are we winning at ? 2/ What is unusual about the breeding of both horse and driver 😁 . Place of birth ? 3/ Can you name his 2 fabulous stalwart owners in the photo seen after a big Win in NZ who did massive amounts for the sport in NZ.?
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With the 2025 Contest coming up soon , and some great NZ reps in Republican Party in the Pacers section and Bet N Win in the Trotters > It's time for a Competition for BOAY harness racing supporters to get in and remember and respect ( and/or Learn About ) some of the Greats of the Best Race of All. I will daily put up a question or 2 , where you can earn points as we go to Find the great BOAY Interdominion Champ. In addition , if can't answer the questions as you are too young 🤣, I will Pop on a Race each day , that is being run on that day , featuring Fine NZ v Aus horses , where you can earn points as well. so look out for that race daily. The true Meaning of the Unique and Traditional and Harness racing specific INTERDOMINION is (inter =inside/between and then Dominion = NZ and Aus ) a contest inside the British dominions of New Zealand and Australia. Let's get it going and go with Horse Number 1
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Don't be too harsh on him TABman . A lot of washouts and 'horse slips' and that had caused a lot of worry about some of the tracks from time to time. With Ellerslie getting all the work done on it , seems Wise to use it if State-of-the-art. A lot of money and Time and experts spent a lot of time 'Fixing 'up Ellerslie so I reckon they should race there Every week . Mainly because that's where the population base is in Auckland to attend lol 😎 mind you I've only ever been to Ellerslie, Puk'e and Arawa Park (Rotorua )where drove on once. think I threw up after lol. We needed the Chief Stipe years ago in Tassie. (to fix the surface 😎) They still race at Elwick , the trotters used too, as well, was like a ploughed field so they put a lot of the drivers up on the horses back down there , rather than 'Bog-in to the surface lol. 🤣 so a few saddle pacers won ok. my dad said he won in the saddle his first race at age 13 as was light as a sparrow, during the war years. here's grand-dad winning a race at Elwick in this amazing old photo. ( Elwick,Hobart is the Tas equal of Ellerslie )
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you often say this Brodster, But you don't say how they can improve ? What should they be doing with the funding Entain has provided ? New races and assorted things s like that seemed a good idea to me. spend it while you have got it . you say harness only benefits for 5 years. What should they do after that time then ? (I would tinker with the actual racing itself if in charge lol.😂. If they want to make the Invercargill Cup a Group 1 for $100,000 for example, (which also drew BOAY criticism at the time for wasting funds) I thought it was good as gave the locals a chance to WIN Big Bucks with their Best pacers. (a bit like the Golden Gate initiative at Alex Park gave regular folk with regular horses a chance at big bucks , Unhinged Nigel even WON one of them . great stuff ) Your man Carter from Canterbury far too good for the Southerners though so mugged the Invercargill Cup money with Krug and Republican Party anyway. so the locals can't win their own race. I would make it a stand and plonk winners off 10m . This has what has slipped in NZ for a few years. The Handicap. Sundee's Son Lazarus Copy That and even bloody SWAYZEE 'Gifted' the big races (Dominion, Rowe,NZ Cup etc) as after winning them once. were NOT given the 10m or 20m handicap , so Easily won them a second time . Swayzee might be coming back for 3rd NZ Cup shortly ? just silly giving it to him. put him on 20m 👍😎 To Give Others a Chance handicap the winners . as they have done for 100 years previously. you need more than One Winner and you especially need all the participants to Have a chance of winning. . This keeps ALL Trainers and owners interested in competing in these races too. The interest will drop away otherwise.
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What an excellent collection of ideas and events. Hope the Colonel can recover. So many small businesses have collapsed the last few years with the cost of staff and shop rent especially hard to manage. The Cost of living far exceeded the inflation rate , with the cost of 'everything' escalating all the time. (luckily my wife and I sold our local small business we had for 7 years , about 7 years ago to the Chinese ,so I semi-retired, just very recently the Chinaman shut the door for the last time actually , a sign of the times 🙄) Brodie and I discussed previously a few times what the costs of racing/training a horse these days are, and realized the folly of doing so , even though reasonably well off. I would want to do the horse myself but feel too old to get back into it now as a participant lol. Plus the many horses I trained in my prime before marriage, we just tried to 'break even' for the regular people owners we had. none of the horses were stars and even if could get just a second placing each month , at least the horse broke even from it's 4 starts that month. It was a Tough Battle. I've always been surrounded by some of the best Horse people on the Planet. young Herlihy and MarkyP while in Nz ,Vinnie Knight and JimmyO in Victoria, and some amazing families like Dixon's, Rasmussen and McMullen in QLD . Feel like I walked in horse heaven mixing it up with these fine people. Anyway HEARTY congrats to you , racing both gallopers and harness horses I believe from this forum. Supporting both Codes and enjoying yourself no end . Up the Karaka Day !! 🤣😂 Today is public holiday Kings Birthday in Vic and NSW. wonder if it is in NZ too? Stupid stupid QLD changed our Kings B'day holiday to Oct. WTF. and we don't even have Daylight Saving at all. talk about backward state lol. My wife and I used to go to the Brisbane Cup run this Very day (when queens b'day holiday Monday) every year as our galloping outing. but they changed it. so we go No more, and is gorgeous day today. and nothing on. spose do have BOAY and Collingwood v Dee's at the MCG AFL (80,000 crowd today) on tele for a bit of entertainment.
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yes I like Bet N Win. he has had one start here in Brisvegas and won too. so hope he can win for NZ. well worth a saver by me. thanks for the tip. Arcee Phoenix is a Victorian who has won 3 of his 5 starts this year , but all over Sprint distances. He's not a stayer and will get mugged in Brisbane. (in the final over distance, might win a heat though ? 🤔) Pete McMullen is a farrier himself and has GUS right. Gus is NZ-bred Majestic Son so is a real ripper. Last Winter GUS had a 10 start campaign , and bolted in 7 times including our Group2 Championship, but broke the other 3 times 🙄. He won over the Interdom distance in the final by 4 lengths too. He is gunna be real tough to beat.
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haha someone should pay you $30 just to consider backing those 'one win per year' horses. 😆. good to see someone supporting them though but not hard to see why 90% of people punting on these things lose their money. I've got a special for you Mr Galah . you're a good judge who does know a good horse when you see one ,that is actually worth investing on. 100-1 Leap To Fame. you're a big chance. He won brilliantly last night yet again . burying them off starting off a 30m handicap over the short 2100m . you're asking how do we get 100-1. ? well I went along last night to see him go and Grant said he has the winner of the Rising Sun as well . FATE AWAITS. he won quite brilliantly last night too. ( and won this time last year in 1.50 as a 2 year-old) he is certainly the real deal. Our Best trainer driver here Pete McMullen also won with Fast trotter GUS. Gus waltzing away from them in a 2100m stand off 30m as well. Not an easy feat by any stretch of the imagination. Pete said he has him 'cherry ripe for the Interdominion' trot home town advantage next month. Make no mistake, without the defending Champion The Locomotive nor Keayang Zahara attending this Interdom Trot , he is a huge chance. so there you go. I've only put a tenner on so far to win 1000 but will likely take more. ( plus some Emma Stewart and the Janitor savers) Fate Awaits ($7.00 in the Rising Sun July5th) x GUS ($11.00 for the Interdomion trot Grand Final July 19th) into Leap To Fame ( $1.30 for the Interdominion Pacers Grand Final July 19th) 7 x 11 x 1.3 = 100-1 riding on Leap To Fame . you won't get that everyday 😆. our winning Fate Awaits lol 😉💰 don't say I don't look after you . better keep it quiet from the Brodster though 😉.
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JMac annoying me today Chief. I Had Zarastro in the Comp at good odds and Jmac nailed it right on the line with Joliestar in the K-S Cup, and then straight after I had BEST BET and a actual bet Bet on MOVING OUT (JMac riding) in the Group 1 Oaks, and she flashed home late (for bloody 4th) So Jmac got it wrong both times 🙄. What's wrong with the bloke ? 😂
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Velocious no good Chief. But some kiwi trainers have the QLD Derby favourite in a few minutes time. Emma Lee and David Browne are saddling up STATUARIO at 5-1. bit of luck and he nearly wins
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things are dire mate. The Galah and others have often pointed out the declining numbers racing as a main issue. That to me is the thing we need to address with haste. No Participants = No Sport. I do totally admire that you want to get a Bet on to help out (and line your pockets) great spirit of adventure. The bottom line is you need Participants first, Races 2nd and Revenue 3rd. Queensland and Victoria operate at a Revenue Loss . Does anyone seriously bet on them ? no. I don't bet on them and I'm a big fan. The thing is they still operate because we get Sponsor's, and PAtron's , and Stalwarts and Slot races and all sorts of inspired ideas to keep the SPORT going. It's a Sport , people want to play. Do you shut your local GOLF course when memberships drop off and no-one is 'Betting ' on the players ?? no . They get off their bums and get money from whatever source is available. ENtain helped harness no end and yet you hate it. Brad Steele happy with it . and the participants. All you blokes on these forums Counting runners and Revenue every 2nd week is No help at all. Race a Horse would help !!! like they do in Queensland. People here still racing a horse (or 3) and KEEPING the Game going. (for now)
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Ka Ying Rising locked in for The Everest.
Gammalite replied to Wandering Eyes's topic in Galloping Chat
would be mugs taking a small price like that in a future race. especially a race that will attract the best horses in the land like The Everest. I 'll tell you a secret Huey , that on the Race day the betting companies have Bet Options like odds and evens on races. I guess like a roulette table it probably has a limit of $500 for even chance bets. but you could get Half the field running for you for your approxiamate $1.90. there would be 6 odd numbers and 6 even numbers running in a 12 horse field (or close to it after scratchings and that) so way better to have 6 runners galloping for you than one. (your chances of Victory increase 6 fold) for your $500, $100 or even $50. Ka YingR running on it's own at $1.90 for you would seem a VERY Poor bet to me 😆 Can't see why people need to put more than $500 on a horse race. If you have that much to muck around with why lose it on a horse lol? but some do. the ones with a gambling problem. My limit is $50 per race and I get by fine, and have lots of enjoyment , and never get any money strife. -
your post is confusing Brodie lol. Brad is probably saying the current situation sees great horses doing great racing in lots of new races and schemes that have been implemented (with the help of Dean Shannon and his mob) and people are racing for the best prizemoney ever seen in NZ. so looks excellent progress. (you'll find a dampener for it though no doubt lol 😉👍) You yourself are stating frequently that things will be changing in 2 years (after the 5 great years of the fantastic Entain harness revival is up. and Dean is stepping aside as has put in a decade of effort to achieve these great things. Perhaps the Commitee is to PLAN FOR THE FUTURE old chap. In 2 YEARS time things change ( i'm just taking your word for this ) so you need to start getting Plans in place NOW for when that time comes. They aren't gunna leave it to the last month Brodster. Good on em' for putting a committee togeather now to discuss these Future issues. Timing is good and Future Planning ALWAYS super IMportant. The only thing they could do better is put Gamma , Galah and Seymour (while he's got his billion$ and the world's best horse too, and is still Alive ) on the Committee and things would be running better than the gallops even in No Time.
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I don't need to wake up thanks . I'm not in the race. I have that many whip tales i could write chapters on it. Yes horses racing and gambling is prone to cheating as you say . we see only a fraction of what really is happening , that is the REAL cheating though . we all know Fine Cotton and that sort of thing. but ......... Every race (like those Grand Tour Cyclists who gets away with things for so long) their is Deliberate Chemical enhancement of a horse's chances, and I can tell you there are a few 'Dubious tactics ' employed to get horses to the post in 'Winning Order' . you have no idea what real cheating is. Positives are being overturned by the Juggernaut stables now as they have ways (and lawyers and BS) to cover their tracks a lot lately. you pick out a Single drive in Formula One as an example, BUT the bloke drives tons of races under extreme pressure (and G forces) of course you are going to calculate an error at times. or even drive angry lol 😂 Opie may have had a selfish dangerous ride you mention but i've seen Tommy Berry and Hugh Bowman (you talk experience shouldn't do it ) BUT they committed such dangerous acts at Randwick recently, their rival jockey was on the ground nearly killed and the horse they were riding was killed. It happens that way occasionally, and sadly. I haven't been in races with these jockeys , nor know their attitude. but do know it is ONE of the TOUGHEST Sports gigs going. A few whip strikes (when horses Can't even count) makes Fuckall difference to them. they're tired anyway. Michael Walker deliberately over did the whip in Melbourne Cup (twice) to run a place and had $10,000 fine. It's the heat of the moment and BIG races and little races . you're gunna go for it mate. you're just not gunna sit up and start counting. BUT Yes you have to try and improve your technique (no matter what experience) to fit in with the current guidelines.Jumping on a chaff bag in the tuck room is a good way for the jockeys to practice. Perhaps you could join in and help them to count ?? while you're awake .
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Chief mate. No one cares . The animosity is un-necessary and un-flattering for anyone. You'll only give yourself a hard -on worrying about who's got the Biggest Member 😁🤣 If Pete and Nomates want to chat with others elsewhere and not you , you'll just have to live with it old sport. get on with the racing. unless you're washed out again lol 😆. actually I can't talk as EF got washed out last Saturday but is fine and Sunny today and tomorrow . let em' rip !! let the horses rip instead of ripping into each other. Get Thomass on the boil. 😁 he's bound to come up with something constructive 😎 put the blinkers on him first though and a decent cane riding crop and whack away . don't count the strikes.
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Maybe not but it helps. I think the NZ Cup itself , should be a slot race. 50k to enter 12 starters . $600k purse . easy. HRNZ puts in no Prize money, since you say they don't have any 😆) but is supplying trophy's and many prizes to all the connections drivers slot holders and even the general public attending. make it a real Carnival for everyone. Hey mate , there are MORE SPONSORS than just ENtain. you say not a single person ? I know a friend of mine Chris Garrard already Puts in Mega Bucks to sponsor racing all around Aus and NZ . You will have to go back to good old Sponsorship mate. Races traditionally sponsored by Feed companies and the like. Vic Cup night in Victoria has PRYDE's Easyfeed sponsoring the whole Group 1 program , and it is broadcast on National TV. Big Breweries make a squillion dollars a year from all the alco's around the place. Get them on board.? XXXX sponsor a heap of gallops here , and the footy and what not. what's DB and Lion doing these days ? get them on board. tell em' you'll drink their beer at the track if they put up a few 100 thousand sponsorship for a few races lol. KFC do all the cricket here. Maybe they could eat at the TROTS too ? you kiwi's will just have to get off your arses and start sponsoring some races with some good dollars again ?? Ever sponsored a race Brodster ? Bit of fun. Albion Park often names the races after the members of the club. a nice touch.
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I know you are concerned about the small time frame of 5 years Mr Brodie . But The Entain money helped for another 5 years ( way better than no years 😉) so the harness folk are lapping it up while the going is good. Yes , other things will have to be done if the funding drops. HRNZ are Already starting to introduce Slot races (there were 2 new Big ones on Showday last year) where the PARTICIPANTS pay a huge chunk of the large prizemoney on offer for these races. A way of the future. We have some big ones in Brissie coming up soon including a 2 year old one. I think they help us have big prize races like the gallopers do with the EVEREST and now the KIWI. At the other end of the scale you will have to drop the race prizemoney. QLD and Victoria run at a turnover loss too, but supporters of the sport keep it going, as It is a SPORT , not just a business. where many participants are still spending money to participate, rather than just wanting to 'take it out 💰' like a lot of folk on forums 😁🤣. Addington running $15,000k maidens a bit too much mate. they'll just have to drop the slow horses back to 4 -6 k races like that we have all through the week in Country Victoria, NSW and QLD. If less you have less Funding = You race for less prizemoney . common sense . As for FRANKLIN , there are many issues involved there . It needs to stay though, so the 200 horses that use it can keep in work. without it North Island harness really hitting the basement of survival.
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absolutely fantastic. Crystal and Harrison have as many wins as star Junior Carter Dalgety at around 40 wins each this year (season) already. Junior 'House' has a few more than that even, but his are nearly all country horse wins. so 4th best at moment IMO. with 4 quality drivers like that leading the Junior ranks , with more Wins than ever for junior drivers in a year, things are looking great for driving in Harness racing for years to come.
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You are close to the money there Mr Galah. Dean Shannon has raced horses for a lot of years . Belle of Montana won 4 Group 1's racing out of Barry Purdons and Lanercost won 4 Group 1's as well for Darryl Graham. He was purchased out of a NZ ready to run sale as well fairly cheap , and won the Chariots of Fire I think. Anyway , any policy he was 'encouraging' would come across as if he was trying to get races for his horses, so best he say nothing and Not get people worked up about this sort of thing. (He doesn't need the money, he just loves the sport and racing horses, the bonuses and small fields are OPEN for ALL to contest anyway , that can be bothered . Seymour was accused of this once in Brisbane . He has a stud (like Dean does) as you have to spend your millions on something. and a lot of his moves/sponsorships, etc a while back, were 'perceived' as being favourable to his 100's of foals he breeds. He gives some to Trent Dawson now , who is winning plenty of races for 'Solid Earth ' as well. But he gets no criticism now as he saved Albion Park , and now gets the best horse of all time LEAP TO FAME as his reward. note : Was good to see Dean get MERLIN (nearly the best NZer) as his reward too. great Karma to the absolute TOP Stalwarts of the Sport !!