The Centaur

Yes. Lets see the evidence or is the another novichok blame it on the Russians scenario minus any evidence.

The point I am trying to make is those supplying the info often wallow in the fancy look of the data and ignore the persons time factor. A good example is Des Coppins trainers interviews on the radio. Now who has the time to wait around or have playing the radio half the day. The interviews should be digitized and available on the internet. THe TV presenters instead of trying to pick winners should be assembling the sources of info and cutting racing fans time in searching for the information. Its all about time.

And if it was user pays do you think it would be a commercial success.? And if it was viable other punters would say to themselves "I haven't the time to study all this info therefore am disadvantaged so won't bet." A catch 22.

The Gun Lobby is a "tradition" in the USA. Doesn't mean it must be given a free pass if they LOVE their guns.

Look, lets do the math. How costly is it having jumps racing. I am as keen on racing as anybody but have never been remotely interested in jumps racing. That would go for a lot of other people. Educating horses for jumping after their racing days is positive and encouragement should be given with races for qualified jumpers. Even exhibition jumping displays on racedays. But racing over fences no.... particularly if jumps are placed in the last 600 metres of a race. Just because jumps racing is big in the UK why does that mean its applicable to NZ. Thomas is quite right about younger generation tolerance. Jumps racing is not a spectacle, not a betting medium, dangerous and quite frankly stupid.

Totally agree your assessment on Molloy. I've said for quite a while Molloy is bad for racing. Simple reason people don't want to follow an activity if there is going to be a hassle. Given the unprovoked insults Molloy has dished out to possibly hundreds I would probably end up in an altercation. Some insults just need that response. The snearing, conceited egotistic attitude displayed on social forums is pathetic. The guy isn't smart he's just cunning. He knows how to "follow the money" by aligning himself with say the majority in a situation in order to marginalise an individual. Enough of that.... We have to get away from the idea that all initiatives must be pursued only by Racing Board or NZTR. Instead they should just be a funds dispenser so that they professionally listen to proposals and fund accordingly. Furthermore the Racing Act should not stiffle innovation. Racing does not need Paddy Power or their ilk, neither can racing afford to pay bookmakers or form analysts to fleece the betting public. Far better the betting public act as bookmakers if they want to take on other punters. The TAB was settup to eliminate bookmakers. How come the TAB is now a bookmaker? If TAB staff are employed to fleece the punter rather than grow the pools then eventually there will be no punters left.

Yes I'm sure there was a Sylvia Park Plate but can't see it it my records for last 25 years. Now if racing is proposing to shopping mall management to have a large TV screen or two for racing they will have to have a silent screen with audio available by mobile phone or personal radio. A separate still image internet screen would be the ideal partner. Plus a simple way to open an account. funded online and bet by phone internet. With Sylvia Park I would look at a corner as a bit of a racing museum. Nothing major but can't see shopping mall management balking at the idea.

For the non Aucklander Sylvia Park is one of the largest if not largest shopping complexes in NZ, certainly the fastest growing. Its huge. Not so well known is that Sylvia Park is named after one of NZ's first stud farms. The stud that produced Carbine possibly Australia's greatest horses as well as Mebourne Cup winner Martini Henry. Major roads around Sylvia Park are linked with the stud such as Carbine Road, Musket, Morrins, Hamlin, Waipuna. So with that history you would think racing would have some presence. Perhaps a race at Ellerslie named the Sylvia Park Cup or Plate, Hcp etc. No TAB at Sylvia Park not even a Turf Digest on sale. No large screen. Perhaps a book shop. No nothing. Whats wrong with Ellerslie sponsorship department they can't do some deal with Sylvia Park. One of the founders of Kiwi Properties the owner of Sylvia Park was actually a Dalgety agent when Dalgety was into thoroughbred sales. Yet the TAB steers clear of shopping malls. Not that the current formula for TAB's is suitable to malls but there just needs someone with initiative on the Racing Board to make things happen. Paddy Power Fixed Odds is not the answer.

Sectionals sound well when the trainer is trying to act "technical" with the owner. Owner will just nod in agreement.

Started ok then double bogeyed about four holes. Very poor effort.

Side winkers back on Just Small Ransom should help. Dragon Dancer go well. For an interest try Linn Grant top five British Womens Open golf. Still an amateur but in hot form.

Well at least you wouldn't worry about missing race one!!

With Ebert going into receivership hot after problems at Fletchers is Alexandra Park in over its head now two years late? Recently Cannam the lead construction firm departed seemingly owed money. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12095051 Quite frankley I could never understand why people would want to live in this area half surrounded by busy roads.

Good post. Viewing horses prior to the race I see numerous horses presented each time in a state of unreadiness. Contrast this with the Baker/Forseman horse who are nearly always ready to go. For f*** sakes if these trainers don't know how to get a horse ready perhaps they should get out to Cambridge track and get some incite. Better still try to get some info from within the Baker stable as obviously they are using the latest techniques or aides. One thing I notice is whenever a Baker horse disappoints then next time they are trying something different. That doesn't seem to happen with those on a 70+ losing run.

I notice the "all weather track" where Te Rapa trials were held last week has grown into a grass track. That's real versatility !!! Wonder how much the exercise cost Waikato Racing Club.

A lot of the ex racing journo's failed to adjust to the internet era. They always expected some outfit like Fairfax or the Racing Board to be paying their weekly wages. O'Hearn did at least get his own web site going though. However take someone like Brenda Collins who started up a brilliant breeding magazine. Going out getting advertising revenue plus talking nicely to the bank manager much harder than churning out mundane material for the Racing Board or Fairfax for a weekly pay check. So what recognition did Brenda get. Very little as far as I can see. No wonder she left the industry in disgust.

You should really wean yourself off those Trump tweets. Its an in depth article who cares about the technicalities.

Thanks Hesi. Seems the author has quite a good grasp of the subject matter. The sort of indepth writing racing is missing. Unfortunately not in my line of interest. But how anyone in racing could object to that sort of contribution is baffling. Plus the sole person doing the anti Peters pro anyone National hysterical raving on the other site is puerile.

I have seen the June 28 article online but not the July 5. Is the July 5 the one being complained of. Anyone with a link? Or any summary of whats in it?

Bad news. Looks like its Canine degenerative myelopathy. Almost can't walk at all. Not good. Don't suppose there is some miracle cure?

Barry, No need to go off the rails. The big thing when putting forth horses is giving reasons so that people can make up their own minds. When you were giving ontrack observations that was great. It was missing information. Its something one can factor in. Similarly with outsiders there is always some piece of hidden information not readily visible by just a cursory glance at the form. When you give a horse it could well be with a double up of information someone already has. Few people will accept a tip just for the sake of a tip.

Well the horse Outsider would seem the ideal omen tip. What I will say is that 23 May when he started this prep I had him down as very fat. That would mean at least 6 weeks to get the beef of. At the moment 61:1. Strong type worth checking out in the next month.

Yes good chance however legally Winston Peters can appoint a new racing Board chairman which would give the new chairman opportunity to work with Messara before the final release of the report. After all the current chairperson is a National Party hack.

Well its gone 5.00pm .. any announcement? Mind you the previous CEO would only just be coming alive maybe a midnight announcement.

Previous on this thread I examined Westside when it ran at Hawera. The run was first time in blinkers and really didn't do much. The horse was pushed all the way and never ran on. However this time steps to 1600 and I would expect they will allow it to settle then try to swoop out wide. The 2kg claim won't hurt and more holding track might help. The crazy part about the odds is that its one of only two horses to have won a trial. The favourite is Frances Kate but Westside finished all over the top of it at the trials. Frances Kate is $4 fixed odds and Westside $61 and $10 for a place.