Brodie Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 No NZ Harness so is everyone bored by now? News is about as exciting as Auckland mile racing! What can we all do to get thru this long winded lockdown period? Does anyone at all know of anyone that has got this Covid19 virus? I certainly don’t!!! One person passed away and the whole country is locked down and going to be paying for this for generations!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Brodie said: One person passed away and the whole country is locked down and going to be paying for this for generations!! Yep and 12 people "stretching" the health system. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, Brodie said: No NZ Harness so is everyone bored by now? News is about as exciting as Auckland mile racing! What can we all do to get thru this long winded lockdown period? Does anyone at all know of anyone that has got this Covid19 virus? I certainly don’t!!! One person passed away and the whole country is locked down and going to be paying for this for generations!! John curtin bloodstock agent had the virus ranga well is he busy planning his next stack out at hiding in hedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: John curtin bloodstock agent had the virus Give the man the T-shirt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: John curtin bloodstock agent had the virus ranga well is he busy planning his next stack out at hiding in hedges John Curtin had this corona virus and said that it was not as bad as the flu! So many have it and yet there are next to no symptoms and yet we are closed down? There is more to it than this flu that was spread by people from a country that is still got these fucken markets!! Why on earth are these People allowed to continue spreading these calamitous viruses around the world as it is not the first time? Are they that damned thick and primitive that the China government allow this to continue?? FFS there needs to be pressure on the Chinese government to stop this shit NOW! World governments now need to say we are not going to allow this and stop every Chinese person from coming into our country unless you stop these wet markets because you are spreading your disgusting viruses worldwide and you have totally effed every country except your own!!! Edited March 31, 2020 by Brodie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chief Stipe Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 42 minutes ago, Brodie said: There is more to it than this flu that was spread by people from a country that is still got these fucken markets!! Don't let your xenophobia get in the way of rational thought. I've been reading a lot about this virus and there is strong evidence that the virus was circulating in a benign fashion for what could be up to a decade. Mid to late last year new forms of severe pneumonia were being presented in a number of European countries it is now suspected that they were caused by a variant of this Coronavirus if not Covid-19 itself. There are 8 strains circulating presently and not much is known about differences in virility. So it may not be a "China" problem and Wuhan may not be the epicentre. It is quite possible that the dangerous strain was developing in more than one country at once. As an avid reader of data it seems to me that population density is a key to its transmission and death rate. Wuhan and New York have a lot in common with regard to population density. New York is the most densely populated city in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 has there been an update on the guy that the brodster nobbled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 29 minutes ago, Rangatira said: has there been an update on the guy that the brodster nobbled Nobble no one Ranga! 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Don't let your xenophobia get in the way of rational thought. I've been reading a lot about this virus and there is strong evidence that the virus was circulating in a benign fashion for what could be up to a decade. Mid to late last year new forms of severe pneumonia were being presented in a number of European countries it is now suspected that they were caused by a variant of this Coronavirus if not Covid-19 itself. There are 8 strains circulating presently and not much is known about differences in virility. So it may not be a "China" problem and Wuhan may not be the epicentre. It is quite possible that the dangerous strain was developing in more than one country at once. As an avid reader of data it seems to me that population density is a key to its transmission and death rate. Wuhan and New York have a lot in common with regard to population density. New York is the most densely populated city in the USA. Chief, we have had oNe death in NZ unfortunately apparently she had existing conditions. If we had healthy people dying I would take this more seriously! Italy, always have thousands die every year as they have an aged population, There is so much false news being given by the news media it just isn’t funny!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yep and 12 people "stretching" the health system. Price gouging hotline but no price gouging taking place they say. Doing my head in. Don't forget who owns TVNZ! They pander to the government script. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Way South Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 1:23 PM, Brodie said: John Curtin had this corona virus and said that it was not as bad as the flu! So many have it and yet there are next to no symptoms and yet we are closed down? There is more to it than this flu that was spread by people from a country that is still got these fucken markets!! Why on earth are these People allowed to continue spreading these calamitous viruses around the world as it is not the first time? Are they that damned thick and primitive that the China government allow this to continue?? FFS there needs to be pressure on the Chinese government to stop this shit NOW! World governments now need to say we are not going to allow this and stop every Chinese person from coming into our country unless you stop these wet markets because you are spreading your disgusting viruses worldwide and you have totally effed every country except your own!!! On 3/31/2020 at 1:23 PM, Brodie said: John Curtin had this corona virus and said that it was not as bad as the flu! So many have it and yet there are next to no symptoms and yet we are closed down? There is more to it than this flu that was spread by people from a country that is still got these fucken markets!! Why on earth are these People allowed to continue spreading these calamitous viruses around the world as it is not the first time? Are they that damned thick and primitive that the China government allow this to continue?? FFS there needs to be pressure on the Chinese government to stop this shit NOW! World governments now need to say we are not going to allow this and stop every Chinese person from coming into our country unless you stop these wet markets because you are spreading your disgusting viruses worldwide and you have totally effed every country except your own!!! They probably started it themselves. they are trying to take over the world. The Aussies are finally waking up to the fact that the Chinese own a hell of a lot of dairy farms, milk processing plants etc even own the Port of Darwin. I watched a sky news programme last night said the rest of the world need to get together and send the biggest reparation bill in history to China. if they dont pay which they wont take back ownership of any chinese businesses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Way South Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 I think they are a digusting race of people and if they were obliterated off the face of the earth ....earth would be a far safer place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 33 minutes ago, Way South said: I think they are a digusting race of people and if they were obliterated off the face of the earth ....earth would be a far safer place. Ease up pull your reins in. We don't tolerate blatant racism on BOAY. Much of what we take for granted today in terms of standard of living and invention either came from China or was invented by China. Have you ever visited China? I've been there 5 times and found them a friendly people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljay Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 They say it started in China then South Korea but "MIRACULOUSLY" it appears North Korea escaped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, eljay said: They say it started in China then South Korea but "MIRACULOUSLY" it appears North Korea escaped it. I've been reading the scientific papers being produced and it seems that the virus is likely to have been circulating for years but in a more benign form. There is evidence that it was in Europe BEFORE China with unusual severe cases of pneumonia presenting during last year. The issue with China was that this new strain (there are 8 strains so far) presented in a very densely populated city - Wuhan. Compare this with New York which is the most densely populated city in USA. It is highly likely that this virus has been around for a long time and will be here forever. However the human population will adapt and survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) There has been quite a bit of media coverage quoting experts saying the virus came from the horseshoe bat. Watching the Tucker Carlson show on fox today they quoted Chinese scientists saying exactly that some 2 months ago. They are the same bat they have said caused the Sars virus. Interestingly they say this bat is not found anywhere near Wuhan but the chinese newspaper had quoted the scientists saying they believed it came from 1 of 2 government laboratories located in Wuhan where they do testing on infectious diseases and import the Horseshoe Bat for the testing . It seems there is now a belief by some governments and experts that the Chinese government deliberately mislead when they said it came from a food market very close to where the laboratories are situated. Does have a ring of truth to me given it was china scientists in a chinese run paper who first said it before it became so big.. What was also interesting today was watching the presidential press briefing where the 2nd in charge of the governmental response team(obama appointed lady and who's name escapes me but appears every day). She clearly stated that they did not believe any of the chinese figures and went further to state that part of the reason for Europe and usa being so under prepared was because the data from China was totally inaccurate and false. Edited April 1, 2020 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, the galah said: Interestingly they say this bat is not found anywhere near Wuhan but the chinese newspaper had quoted the scientists saying they believed it came from 1 of 2 government laboratories located in Wuhan where they do testing on infectious diseases and import the Horseshoe Bat for the testing . It seems there is now a belief by some governments and experts that the Chinese government deliberately mislead when they said it came from a food market very close to where the laboratories are situated. For a start I wouldn't rely on Fox News as my definitive source. FOX - Friend Of Xenophobia! The science reports that I've read fairly conclusively say that the virus is NOT man made. They also hypothesise with some fairly solid evidence that the virus albeit in a more benign form has been in circulation for years. By the way these reports are form Western Scientists NOT Chinese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: For a start I wouldn't rely on Fox News as my definitive source. FOX - Friend Of Xenophobia! The science reports that I've read fairly conclusively say that the virus is NOT man made. They also hypothesise with some fairly solid evidence that the virus albeit in a more benign form has been in circulation for years. By the way these reports are form Western Scientists NOT Chinese. I guess we each have our own views on what to believe. You say the virus is not man made. The theory i put forward said it was carried by a bat then transferred to a human working in a laboratory known to do testing on infectious diseases carried by the breed of bat in question. maybe its just coincidence that it started in the part of wuhan where they do the testing ,,maybe not. Edited April 1, 2020 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, the galah said: I guess we each have our own views on what to believe. You say the virus is not man made. The theory i put forward said it was carried by a bat then transferred to a human working in a laboratory known to do testing on infectious diseases carried by the breed of bat in question. maybe its just coincidence that it started in the part of wuhan where they do the testing ,,maybe not. So you believe a theory put forward by Tucker Carlson? Have a read. This is the most up to date study so far. Not it cannot confirm the origin of the virus however it contends that the adaptation occurred in humans AFTER transference. Also the tests on bats and pangolins show it is the latter that has the closest form of the virus to the human ones. s41591-020-0820-9.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Way South Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, the galah said: I guess we each have our own views on what to believe. You say the virus is not man made. The theory i put forward said it was carried by a bat then transferred to a human working in a laboratory known to do testing on infectious diseases carried by the breed of bat in question. maybe its just coincidence that it started in the part of wuhan where they do the testing ,,maybe not. your theory rings true with me Galah....They are a deceitful race intent on power and greed. Any country that allows dogs to be barbecued alive and screaming on a spit is scum in my book. I wouldnt go there if you paid me. But i guess people that do go their alot are either into seeing animals cooked and eaten alive or go to find a mail.order bride...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, Way South said: your theory rings true with me Galah....They are a deceitful race intent on power and greed. Any country that allows dogs to be barbecued alive and screaming on a spit is scum in my book. I wouldnt go there if you paid me. But i guess people that do go their alot are either into seeing animals cooked and eaten alive or go to find a mail.order bride...... One more post like and you are on moderation. I'm not risking prosecution for BOAY by your racist hate comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiplash smile Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: One more post like and you are on moderation. I'm not risking prosecution for BOAY by your racist hate comments. is a fact though they do skin dogs ALIVE! lots of videos by animal welfare groups if you got the stomach for it! but I can see your point that way south might need to temper back his emotion abit, cause yeah thats borderline hate speech and there are laws, good on you for giving him fair warning tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Way South said: I think they are a digusting race of people Nearly 1.4 billion people are all the same? Your motto is 'one in, all in'? 5 hours ago, Way South said: I watched a sky news programme last night said the rest of the world need to get together and send the biggest reparation bill in history to China Get Donald to build a wall around China and get them to pay for it. Worked on Mexico. Save the world. 5 hours ago, Way South said: They probably started it themselves. Of course. Most countries like to fuck themselves over by killing their own. You are bound to be right. Pop into your medicine cabinet and throw the bottle labelled 'simple' on it out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: So you believe a theory put forward by Tucker Carlson? Have a read. This is the most up to date study so far. Not it cannot confirm the origin of the virus however it contends that the adaptation occurred in humans AFTER transference. Also the tests on bats and pangolins show it is the latter that has the closest form of the virus to the human ones. s41591-020-0820-9.pdf 916.37 kB · 1 download An interesting read thanks. Did not appear to discount the bat theory.. I had read an article on some woman known as the Bat woman,china's leading expert apparently,after watching Tucker Carlson.. At the end of the article it quoted someone who they said was an expert on the virus "its crystal clear that bats,once again,are the natural reservoir..... Single introduction to humans followed by sustained human to human transmission" . Edited April 1, 2020 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, whiplash smile said: is a fact though they do skin dogs ALIVE! lots of videos by animal welfare groups And don't forget what Aussies do to horses when they transfer them over the border to Queensland. Beat and bash the fuck out of horses before killing them. And don't forget what happens in this country. It a pretty bloody small glasshouse these stones are being thrown in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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