Chief Stipe Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 At least someone is trying something different. Everyone else seems to be asleep.....ATC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Brodie said: Is there a lot of interest in this “The Race by Grins”? Is anyone really excited that this is what is needed to bring new participants into harness racing? Yes it garners a wee bit of interest with the corporate owners choosing who is going to represent them on the track. As for the race itself, it is a mile race around Cambridge, and yes they will go fast and the stake money will be transferred to each other! FFS "a mile" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Michael said: FFS "a mile" We've already covered that off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Roman said: Not a mile, 2200m mobile 8 off front 2 on 2nd line. Not like you to not be on the money Was not aware that it is over 2200 metres!! Thought it mustve been over the mile seem they were going on about the importance of drawing inside!! Seriously it didnt really give the 3 year olds or mares much of an advantage if it is over 2200metres! The older males will win it now that it is over 2200 metres which is a far better idea than mile racing! Edited April 5, 2022 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davis said: Look mate, I usually agree with you, but give the Race a chance before you condemn it. I think it will be an interesting race. I backed Spellbound so put the curse on her before she even started. Brodster, it should be all on because of the Australian young gun drivers, they won't let it develop into your typical NZ race where everyone follows the leader. I wouldn't surprise me if a world record set. I probably not have a bet now but I guess the new horse Majestic ??? would be worth a punt? I never heard of the horse before to be honest. Fair enough now I know it is over 2200m rather than the mile. Hard to see Stylish Memphis competing well against the boys over that distance Edited April 5, 2022 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Brodie said: Was not aware that it is over 2200 metres!! Thought it mustve been over the mile seem they were going on about the importance of drawing inside!! Seriously it didnt really give the 3 year olds or mares much of an advantage if it is over 2200metres! The older males will win it now that it is over 2200 metres which is a far better idea than mile racing! Yeah I thought it was a mile! Had to go and check to make double sure I was right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 How cool is that !! Great to see some Aussies flying in , to try and kick some kiwi butt and pluck THE Race at it's inaugural running. Grimson managed to win the Interdominion with a claimer so must be a sharp Trainer and go close to the win. Gammalite, My Lightning Blue, I'mTheMighty Quinn , Westburn Grant, Smoken Up and Our SirVancelot were all a fair while ago now , flying over to win the Very Big races in NZ for Aussie trainers ............ so lets add to that list !!! lol..... lets go Majestic Cruiser, (and Orlando and Memphis) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Brodie said: Fair enough now I know it is over 2200m rather than the mile. Hard to see Stylish Memphis competing well against the boys over that distance I disagree. The draw is a massive factor especially at Cambridge. Stylish Memphis will be first out and then get an easy run on the fence when something comes around. I still think Self Assured is the best horse in the race and should win but you never know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forbury Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 35 minutes ago, Davis said: I disagree. The draw is a massive factor especially at Cambridge. Stylish Memphis will be first out and then get an easy run on the fence when something comes around. I still think Self Assured is the best horse in the race and should win but you never know... It will be a fantastic race for the involvment of the Australians as there will be speed on and attacks.the horse that benifits from a very fast run race is self assured who must be primed as mark does always.if the Aussies control speed and run it for each other it's going to struggle to win.one GTD self assured won't be in front until last 200.who is going to run last would be a great bet.my money is on Skitzo Krug and pembrook playboy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: How cool is that !! Great to see some Aussies flying in , to try and kick some kiwi butt and pluck THE Race at it's inaugural running. Grimson managed to win the Interdominion with a claimer so must be a sharp Trainer and go close to the win. Gammalite, My Lightning Blue, I'mTheMighty Quinn , Westburn Grant, Smoken Up and Our SirVancelot were all a fair while ago now , flying over to win the Very Big races in NZ for Aussie trainers ............ so lets add to that list !!! lol..... lets go Majestic Cruiser, (and Orlando and Memphis) Gamma, alto Orlando and Stylish Memphis are pretty much Kiwi horses, but it is not uncommon for you to claim NZ stuff as Ozzie, except for the crims that are brought up in Oz and you send them to us!!!!!!!! Edited April 5, 2022 by Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, Davis said: I disagree. The draw is a massive factor especially at Cambridge. Stylish Memphis will be first out and then get an easy run on the fence when something comes around. I still think Self Assured is the best horse in the race and should win but you never know... Cant see it having much chance racing against the boys, as it has been racing against horses not in the same class as what she will meet here! She is a very good mare but if she goes 3 back the fence then she cant win at Cambridge! As for a race to punt on, I will take the non winners races! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, Brodie said: Gamma, alto Orlando and Stylish Memphis are pretty much Kiwi horses, but it is not uncommon for you to claim NZ stuff as Ozzie, except for the crims that are brought up in Oz and you send them to us!!!!!!!! Stylish Memphis is Canterbury owned by Wayne Higgs well-known former trainer and successful breeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, Brodie said: Gamma, alto Orlando and Stylish Memphis are pretty much Kiwi horses, 10 minutes ago, Davis said: Stylish Memphis is Canterbury owned by Wayne Higgs well-known former trainer and successful breeder. Yes and with Alto Orlando raced by Robert and John Dunn (pretty well known in Canterbury) you could say it's a NZ victory ! Personally i always give most credit to the 'Training' team . but all good . still love a NZ victory !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 22 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: We've already covered that off. Merely pointing out that someone's "not on the money" again However, as always, thank you for stepping up to give said poster your unwavering moral support 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Michael said: Merely pointing out that someone's "not on the money" again However, as always, thank you for stepping up to give said poster your unwavering moral support You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 5/04/2022 at 3:36 PM, Brodie said: Fair enough now I know it is over 2200m rather than the mile. Hard to see Stylish Memphis competing well against the boys over that distance 2350 would have suited her better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 5/04/2022 at 3:45 PM, Gammalite said: Gammalite, My Lightning Blue, I'mTheMighty Quinn , Westburn Grant, Smoken Up and Our SirVancelot were all a fair while ago now , flying over to win the Very Big races in NZ for Aussie trainers ............ Steel Jaw and Golden Reign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 5/04/2022 at 4:52 PM, Brodie said: Cant see it having much chance racing against the boys, as it has been racing against horses not in the same class as what she will meet here! I suppose it's okay to bag your own horse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Steel Jaw and Golden Reign Arden Rooney as well for the NZ Cup (or is he still a NZer ???) mmmmmm lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotsfan Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 5:03 PM, Rangatira said: I suppose it's okay to bag your own horse. Cunning as trying to get better odds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 2/8/2022 at 5:00 PM, Gammalite said: 10 slots all sold for $75,000 each for the 3 year term. with the host Waikato / Bay Of Plenty Club putting up the remaining $150,000. Marketing and HRNZ and sponsor corporate interest for the day on-course etc should regather that ? Havnt really got into the slots setup, as there is only nine runners what happens to the slot holder of the non runner, have they done there dough,? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Havnt really got into the slots setup, as there is only nine runners what happens to the slot holder of the non runner, have they done there dough,? They said they would get $37,500 back which is the minimum any get back. Good way to lose $37,500 without competing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brodie said: They said they would get $37,500 back which is the minimum any get back. Good way to lose $37,500 without competing No, apparently the slot holder and the connections of the horse that they originally had/were allocated, however it works, split the $37,500 between them. So the slot holder gets about $18,000 for their $75,000 investment. Great business model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Brodie said: They said they would get $37,500 back which is the minimum any get back. Good way to lose $37,500 without competing So they buy the slot, can have any horse run for them and obviously get a cut of the prize, dont seem to do anything for the average battler but if you have a good one that can get in the race for good money dont seem such a bad idea I spose, be interesting how the betting goes turnover wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, mikeynz said: So they buy the slot, can have any horse run for them and obviously get a cut of the prize, dont seem to do anything for the average battler but if you have a good one that can get in the race for good money dont seem such a bad idea I spose, Wish the club had thought about involving the average battler. People involved in 'Buying and/or Owning' a slot can race a great horse once a year in partnership with it's real owners. a very good concept to get some new people involved in the industry (or just have a fun day out each Easter) For the Battler the club should of had a promotions person draw 'Ambassadors' for each runner from the general public , like a lottery , and have prizes scaling down from 1st to last provided by sponsors. EVERYONE could get involved then . and 10 or 9 is it this year lucky people could also be involved in a runner for THE RACE. (someone at BOAY could of had a runner would be cool lol..) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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