Police Raid Stables?? Oh Dear

[Chief Stipe]

This is the race:

 

 

[Happy Sunrise]

[BitofaLegend]

Just now, Happy Sunrise said:

Well that clears that up

[Happy Sunrise]

[With A Dream]

16 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

She is 41.  

I got the 46 age from an old article back in 2008 saying she was 36. It must have been wrong.

[Happy Sunrise]

Does anyone want to come? Should be a great night. Prices are a bit steep but we will fix you up any way you want.

 

Edited September 4, 2018 by Happy Sunrise

[Taku Umanga]

With the amount of media coverage this has received, all those charged should have their licences suspended until they are proven not guilty.  HRNZ has the power to do so.  That is the only way that the industry will claw back any form of respect in the eyes of the general public.

[Taku Umanga]

1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said:

Does anyone want to come? Should be a great night. Prices are a bit steep but we will fix you up any way you want.

I wonder if bail conditions allow attendance?

[With A Dream]

16 minutes ago, BitofaLegend said:

Well that clears that up

Oops, I should have gone to spek savers

[Happy Sunrise]

Just now, Taku Umanga said:

With the amount of media coverage this has received, all those charged should have their licences suspended until they are proven not guilty.  HRNZ has the power to do so.  That is the only way that the industry will claw back any form of respect in the eyes of the general public.

John Dunn and Blair Orange not driving Friday

[Happy Sunrise]

Another race in question according to Garrick Knight.

 

[hesi]

6 minutes ago, Taku Umanga said:

With the amount of media coverage this has received, all those charged should have their licences suspended until they are proven not guilty.  HRNZ has the power to do so.  That is the only way that the industry will claw back any form of respect in the eyes of the general public.

I understand the Rules of Racing were changed maybe 6-7 years ago, so that anyone under investigation could have their license  suspended

It was in response to Lisa Cropp carrying on riding when under investigation

[hesi]

That was thoroughbred though??

Not sure what the rule is in harness

Edited September 4, 2018 by hesi

[Rangatira]

Garrick Knight‏ @GarrickRKnight 5m5 minutes ago

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BREAKING: Sources telling me a number of different Canterbury stables have been raided this morning

[Taku Umanga]

2 minutes ago, hesi said:

That was thoroughbred though??

HRNZ has the power to rescind licenses .....

[hesi]

I recall the issue with Cropp, was that NZTR did not have the legal power to suspend, so the rule had to be amended.

A situation of innocent till proven guilty, therefore NZTR had no legal right.

Might be the same with Harness??

 

[Happy Sunrise]

5 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

Garrick Knight‏ @GarrickRKnight 5m5 minutes ago

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BREAKING: Sources telling me a number of different Canterbury stables have been raided this morning

And I was looking forward to Methven.....

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[Newmarket]

5 minutes ago, Rangatira said:

Garrick Knight‏ @GarrickRKnight 5m5 minutes ago

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BREAKING: Sources telling me a number of different Canterbury stables have been raided this morning

Yep, more to this story. Many more connected to those already questioned. 

[Newmarket]

8 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said:

Another race in question according to Garrick Knight.

 

Wow, have a look at Blair after the start when in front. Have you ever seen a driver look around so much, gives himself away, he is glancing back in field looking for Stuart runner. 

Then with just over lap to go, sees jimmy coming, quite happy to sit and take trail, who does that on that track. 

 

[Rangatira]

3 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Yep, more to this story. Many more connected to those already questioned. 

yes there are a few expected names missing resources might have been stretched yesterday

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Wow, have a look at Blair after the start when in front. Have you ever seen a driver look around so much, gives himself away, he is glancing back in field looking for Stuart runner. 

Then with just over lap to go, sees jimmy coming, quite happy to sit and take trail, who does that on that track. 

 

So how was it fixed?  Favourite and second favourite first and second.  The two best horses in the field cleared out to win.  

[Rangatira]

The Informant understands at least three more stables in the wider Canterbury region have been visited by Police this morning.

Two are in North Canterbury and one is in West Melton.

[Rangatira]

3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

So how was it fixed?  Favourite and second favourite first and second.  The two best horses in the field cleared out to win.  

i know chief man the winner was nearly taken out at the first bend lol

they must have conversations to make sense of this alleged fixing

[Gavin]

There is just no way the Police would charge these people unless they felt there was enough evidence to gain convictions. All those accused are innocent until proven guilty of course but a very black day for the industry. Genuinely shocked and saddened to see Blair charged. Nigel McGrath was one of those involved in the blue magic fiasco. By his previous standards, he has been quiet ever since until the last year or so. How many times has the name John Dunn been mentioned in the last two years by stewards etc? By far the biggest name is that of N.R. The potential connotations of her charge don't reflect well. The fact Matt Anderson with his connection to NR has been charged with race fixing and possession is also a huge red flag.

The industry has been trending down for some time. This will do nothing for the confidence of everyone in any way associated with the game. There's me thinking only NSW and Queensland had choreographed many of their races. 

[Rangatira]

Sources have told Stuff the NZ Derby at Addington last year is part of the investigation and that people interviewed were asked about phone conversations that had been monitored by the police.

last years or last seasons