Gammalite

Yes , I find it quite annoying the 'trots ' betting is effected badly by small pools and restrictions you and Brodie mention, and the FAILURE to put up odds at all, let alone small odds hahaha lol.. The gallopers with the bigger pools and LOT more people betting, obviously have a lot more Losers . i.e People losing money to the betting agencies on each and every race... At the harness, people know what they are doing , example I think you , I ,Brodie, Davis, JJflash we could all win each and every harness meeting. BECAUSE the racing is Honest and the HORSES RUN TRUE TO FORM ?? way more than gallopers I would suggest. I think betting agencies hate us, and call us thieves on wheels etc. Even Though Jockeys BET waaaay more than us poor trotting folk. Always fixed. I gave up betting all togeather for a couple of years before the fixed betting started up. Couldn't stand the odds being slashed after the start of a race. was absolute joke and happened every race. King of Swing might show $2 win for example , until the race has betting CLOSED as the race starts , THEN they TAB, change it half way through the race to $1.10 win. Was a total NOT WORTH WHILE excercise. rip off time and time again. If King of Swing shows $2 fixed , I am on , and collect that divvie. never in doubt lol.............. Is 'Fixed Price' open for betting Addington + Auckland in advance there ?(today?) or is it just hours before they jump like they are here in Qld. have no clue what they're paying till the day. which sucks.

Today is the Brisbane 'Slower/maiden class day . race for between $4k-$5k total per race. seems about right. Great that there is support for these meetings by you guys. I am trying to 'mend my ways' of supporting just horses I think can win/ win easily . Can't believe it though . 2 hours to the first race at Albion today and STILL no fixed price markets up TAB or sportsbet!!!. NO MARKETS are up for our big Saturday night metro meetings either !!!! I'm Very ANGRY harness gets 'treated like this' !!!!!It's July . Albion Park has features all through the month. No fixed price up yet ???? I could do a market for them in about an hour for Saturday night. A feature night with lots of visitors, I reckon I could (without computer help even) Just a disgrace they can't/won't do it. !!!! ALL the fricken Sat gallop meetings have a market up fixed price already. just poor cousin trotting .No. I'll end up just betting on those and harness misses out. Just not right. just incompetence (or poor service anyway) Can I ask whether you can bet (fixed) over there Auckland and Addington already for tomorrow??

It stops a 'BIG chunk' of them Galah. You ,Chief and everyone knows ALL top level athletes get Chemical assistance of some kind. Horses especially, Vets and Horse trainers have worked hand in hand for decades to keep horses feeling great , and racing in peak physical/ mental condition. you Won't Win BIG ones (races) without help. Have a look at the human athletes, cyclists , swimmers , even football .(Essendon had a famous BIOCHEMIST , they call them now instead of doctors) Dank wrecked that club with illegal substances and cost 17 players a years disqualification and the club a $2mill fine. And he got off ?? Dank should of been jailed for years. (funnily he tried to sue for defamation $10 mill got dismissed thankfully) I digress, Chris Waller, for example , has a 'Biochemist' constantly designing the 'mix' that goes into his 100's of $millions worth of bloodstock. Feed and supplements calculated to the miniscule degree? I've no reason to think the leading harness stables would not be similar. The biochemist a critical factor in these top horses. Results are accordingly excellent. Also a history of 4 DECADES of success with on the track driving/training as well . someone has to be the best. The 48 hour retention barn does a it's job for STOPPING the late 'poormans' extra's being added. hahaha nice Galah term there !!!

geeeeez , you are a hard bugger Paleface. Fancy calling LAZARUS a donkey..... nearly the best ever. Before Lazarus had his last start ever in Australia in that 2018 Miracle Mile , he had NOT missed a place in Australia in 15 starts which included 6 x Group 1 Wins including Hunter Cup and Perth Interdominion.... superb !! The fastest times he (Lazarus) ran in Australia were the 1.49 in the 2017 Miracle Mile when 3rd??? and Chariots of fire WIN the year before. Perhaps the retention barn 'NOT in Action' with Allstars 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the 2017 Miracle Mile?? The 2018 Miracle Mile was won by Butts(My Field Marshall) in 1.46.9 ????? wow. low level flying !!!!! The very best Aussie of recent years TIGER TARA was 4 lengths back from winner struggling 4th as well. Lazarus best was 1.49 here, here's the excuse........................... They went TOO FAST for them mate!!!!, you were there , you saw it ? Can't win All the time mate. He couldn't go that fast ? please forgive him one bad run for Christ sake. nothing to do with treatments. Even if YOU suggest it is to do with treatments, that just shows the 'Retention Barn' is working ????? brilliant still? Have no idea what happens at Menangle trials. never been there. can't answer your question. can you????

That's quite ironic in a way! lol. We had the "Big Blinkers" arguement with Chief one other time , and you may not remember, but I was on your side of the arguement, that it seemed ok to use them , and results were good. Now you are 'sick' with the sight of all the gear on a horse, you would think the irony is 'Thomas would be Without those 'Melody Belle' like Blinkers , and running naked and free like Chief wants. bit of irony anyway. I'm easy !!! The trainers probably know what they're doing? they been doing it enough years. I thought the Perth harness trainers were 'over-doing' it, as I showed earlier, and it did look a bit bilious ? lol........ and personally thought it was great to see the beautiful horse head again (like the NZer KRUG photo) and/or BLACK CAVIAR seen here charging to Victory !!!!!!! hope you enjoy this photo more !

sorry Galah , you are wrong with this . Most horse aids/treatments , (EXAMPLE like Mr Alford, McGrath and others using milkshakes over the years), and many injectibles are given race-day or day before , so to actually be EFFECTIVE> i.e help you win the race. otherwise NO POINT using them .lol...... Strong administrations , that are working Longer-Term, like you want, EXAMPLE steroids, are swabable, as in the system extended periods , and you really run the Gauntlet of Excess substance in the blood/ urine testing. Not recommended. Retention Barn has been great at Not only preventing 'raceday' administration , but prevents Accusations of such as well !!!!brilliant.

Can't understand you for a second Thomas. My post was discussing Chief Stipes THREAD topic of "Incentivise" and "Headgear." I don't wish you to be sick , at the sight of a Standardbred. maybe take some pills or something ??? It's a horse mate. It's from NZ , and it races very well. Thoroughbred folk would even approve of KRUG ? maybe use it to 'Broaden' your narrow horizons?. It's like you don't want anyone to post anything without your approval, and am sure you have driven many away. a real shame. not sure why you are you so mean about everything, but surely people can post things they're interested in ? Do you like INCENTIVISE ? is that of any interest?

I'm already convinced with INCENTIVISE , so am already getting on the $9 win/$3 pl for Caulfield Cup . Is being sent to Peter Moody now to get ready for a 'Cups' Trail. He Was more dominant than what Vow and Declare was , in the Brisbane campaign that Vow had, before he Won the Mel Cup . You Are convincing me Chief regarding headgear too !! hahahaha , here's a photo from Perth last week. 'Every horse' with something Jammed on it's head (for concentration) looks like they had a TACK room 'sale' and rummage or something, and just chucking on whatever they could find. lol.... Versus ,...... the absolute Superstar , the double NZ Derby winner "KRUG" (champion driver NZer Anthony Butt driving) in 2nd photo. When you are the Best 3 Year old in Australasia, seen here breaking the Redcliffe Track record here at first start in Oz .last weekend, getting ready for Queensland Derby. And LOOKING FABULOUS doing it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who needs headgear when you're this good ???

Lessons for all stallions "Getting the jump on the opposition" "There's No Time, like the present" " Seize the Moment" "Don't ever let a Chance go by " "It's been a hard Day at the office" "under the pump a long way out"

Hahaha yeah Grant Dixon needs to get rid of some slow-ones. Qld probably in FULL lock-down next week lol No I know who you mean. Don't forget the success with Black'sA Fake. Nat's no flash in the pan ya know.lol. That retention barn used for 2 days (pre-post 48 hours for all MIRACLE MILE ) runners compulsory , (because race worth $1mill) and will be used for the Interdominion GF runners at Menangle in the Spring-time too. I think it's a great idea.!!! stops any form of raceday eve/ or raceday dodgey treatments /temptations and keeps the great races as clean as whistle. No one accused of cheating. excellent. Spankem passed it (the Barn) ok , and went 1.47 still 2 years ago ?? All good with All Stars . no probs.

The Stewards will be still scratching their heads.? just share another example to finish this story. The ex-pat kiwi Jack TRAINOR had 6 horses in at Menangle last night. Only ONE horse on the night , beat any of those 6 home. Grand old FFAer 'Double Encounter' beating 2 of Jack's back into 2nd and 3rd in a sizzling 1.50.7 mile. Otherwise he had the THREE winners (with a Quinella one race) to continue the amazing stable form. quite brilliant. GRIMSON from the same 'Barn' (pretty much a training partner of Trainor) had placegetters too. chasing home the brilliant Spellbound in 1.50.1. with his 3 horses....very quick. The 'funny bit' I like is, after heaps of placings behind his many Stablemates at the McCarthy/ Craig Cross 'Super best in OZ stable' last year , the horse POCKET OF TERROR has left that barn to join Trainor recently , and the young bloke WON Last night with him , and was knocking off McCarthy horses 'Cup class' ex-new zealanders CASH AND FLOW and STAR GALLARIA!!. crazy times. so the McCarthy super-stable is being knocked off by their outcast 'old' horses now? !! extroadinary.!...lol. P.S In fairness to kiwi Cross/McCarthy stable, they did train Pocket of Terror to 6 wins from 30 starts last year, often chasing home his many stable-mates too. so not too shabby.

Good NZ clean-up tonight Brodster. ! Spellbound and Mighty Flying Art in Syd. and Krug (Redcliffe Derby ) and LL COOL J (Redcliffe Cup) in Brisbane . LL COOL J won 3 of his last 4 starts in NZ last year for Suzanne and Tony Herlihy , so must be pretty expensive sale to Oz. so is another good example of What you say The kiwis horses are Tops !! lol.. not improved heaps though as already going well. Good to see the aussies aren't stuffing up the good 'ground -work' put in by the kiwi horsepeople !!! lol..... they keep em going super, and beaut racing ,both countries with fine horses . bring on the Interdom !

Greater Sydney forced into a 2 week lock-down at 6 o'clock tonight with 80 people with flu. . so a heap of horses had to late scratch. so now Only 3 Grimson/Trainor horses v Spellbound ....... SHE DID it !!!! well done Spellbound for Nathan Purdon and driver Ashley Hart !!!! 1.50.2 !!! 53.2 last half mile and roared past the three stablemates. wow wee. Young Ashley wins the Group3 and beats her brother Cam (who wins heaps of races) back into 3rd place. . paid $6.30 on the aussie totes !! wahoo ....look out Amazing Dream in Brisbane soon? lol........

Well it's a Redcliffe track record tonight for KRUG . sat outside leader after tracking up 3 wide to get there .pulled away last lap. Raced away in 1.54 4 to a smashing win over a couple of NewSouthWales horses. Prevoius record was 1.55.2 mile rate. What an amazing horse.!!!!!!! Look out 'Expensive Ego' in The Rising Sun feature in a couple of weeks !!!

Unfortunately Frederick near finished Sandy's career. trod on a loose shoe while leading a trial with Sandy driving at Cambridge one Sunday, and crashed, and smashed Sandy's leg which wouldn't mend well. sad turn of events. Graeme Harris was a good trainer there in the Cambridge area around that time as well. We picked up Supreme Ruler who won a few as a three year old in NZ, not much after for Harris, but he was a little shit really..lol. try and bite you all the time, just so sour. we picked him up cheap to belt around with in Qld for a while. He actually got in the NZ CUP one year ?? how I don't know. but got brought down in the big crash that took out 6 of them behind winner CAMELOT. Harris still in QLD with horses . he has a handy horse GLENEAGLE WARRIOR he still paddles around with. Gives it to Vicki Rasmussen when he wants some wins lol.... at his age harder to win these days. lol.......... 2 wins from 24 starts with Graeme training and driving. 7 wins from 16 starts when he gives it to Vicki to train for her drivers from time to time. distinct difference !!

I think to answer the question Chief posted for this thread. is KEEP some of the good HORSES to race in NZ. I don't think horses necessarily improve here in Aus, the kiwis are fantastic horsepeople and get them going nicely FIRST. as with Mighty Conqueror, and way back with Village Kid even. Brian Notman ,his Akld owner /trainer had him going well (4 wins) and sold for 40k to WA which we congratulated him for at the time. Lightning Blue (Addington Interdominion and NZ Cup winner) had one start for Mike Berger at Cambridge for a WIN and sold straight away for 40k. Mike deserves heaps of credit.!!!! and endless examples of that sort of thing continue, over the years. Perth trotting has heaps of 'Rich' owners so no wonder they always picking up great kiwis. Perth the only 'saucer track ' these days Brodie. still Mark won Interdom's with Smolda and Lazarus recently anyway . !!! what a champion. And yes the Z for zorro on the freezebrand (they're doing away with freeze branding soon sadly) always marked a great horse. NZ er. some Aussies were ok though. Gammalite, Popular Alm , Pure Steel, Maori's Idol and Scotch Notch trotting spring to mind. lol...... I had 90% success with kiwis. Frederick was a lovely horse. Can't improve him on Sandy Purdon , but we got him cheap as he was always chasing around Luxury Liner , Master mood (NZ cup winners) Ben, Our Mana, Placid Victor (stablemate who won the Derbies) so his form didn't look great, but he was. so Lucks a fortune !! NZ harness racing would be all the bettor for hanging on to a few of the high performers. that would improve things slightly.

She's a big chance still. But you would think with 3 stable-mates against her, with plans A,B,and C ready to be played, Spellbound is up against it. AND the dramatic form increase of Grimson/Trainor lately. and lack of McCarthy will allow them to 'dictate'. Best of luck though !! I think she can still pull it off. It's a 30k Group3 . com'on Spellbound !! have always loved Purdons getting something. Nathan's turn to shine !

I'm gunna go YES!!. he did that so well and easy past 2 weeks. he is big and strong. SHOCK WAVE is a beauty. The 2nd placegetter last night, yet another big Loss for NZ years ago. MIGHTY CONQUEROR won 2 out of 3 Invercargill 3 years ago. Now has WON 17 out of 37 in Perth and $1/2 mill +, for the Bonds. could of been a FFAer in NZ.

Here's the field tonight for Spellbound. I am absolutely staggered with not just the improvement in the THE STUNNING NUN , forced a couple to chicken out too, by the look of it.? lol. like the stablemate RUBIES FOR TASH (a handy 1.53 mare with 5 wins in 23 at Brisbane over past year ) has gone to Grimson/Trainor bit over 2 months ago , and proceded to now beat home FreeFor Aller's Alta Orlando, Star Galleria , etc ????? How is that possible? Last start 'Ruby' started FAV,???? in the time-honoured Treuer Memorial. which is now unfortunately reduced a Group2 event, with a sign of the times of harness racing, but used to be a GRAND circuit event!! , won by Village Kid, Westburn Grant, Black's A Fake etc. so from midweek Albions to fav in Group2 's in 2 months. extroadinary . 1 30s31 SWEET JEMMA NZ Brad Hewitt David Hewitt NR63 FR1 $41.00 2 21111 THE STUNNING NUN NZ Jason Grimson Jack Trainor NR91 FR2 $2.25 3 s1112 SPELLBOUND NZ Nathan Purdon Ashley Hart (C) NR93 FR3 $6.50 4 35479 MAKE MINE HEAVEN Bernie Hewitt SCRATCHED NR102 SCR 5 61622 ROCKNROLL ANGEL Jason Grimson Cameron Hart (C) NR103 FR4 $4.00 6 12215 RUBIES FOR TASH Jason Grimson Jack Callaghan (C) NR120 FR5 $3.00 7 4116s OUR PRINCESS TIFFANY NZ Dean Braun SCRATCHED NR120 SCR

An interesting story is that for most of this month the 10 horse barn of Jason Grimson and Jack Trainor was moved to the 'Retention Centre" under surveillance of stewards. Trainor (from Dunedin) used to help Dexter and Cran, then worked 5 years at Blake Fitzpatrick at Menangle, now took out a trainers licence late last year. Grimson and Trainor results and 'Improvement in horses' has gone so extreme, the suspicious stewards actually locked down their barn to see what they were doing.??? Can they do that ? is like you're guilty of something so off to the holding cell you go. No charges laid? quite extroadinary.!!! The boys are onto Something good !!!, that's for sure. Tonight SPELLBOUND for Nathn Purdon in a group3 mares race Menangle is up against the THE STUNNING NUN .The 'Nun' left NZ 2 years ago after some handy Akld form for Young, and has nice placings for 2 years in North Vic country. but has 'exploded' in 2 months in the Lock -up, 4 wins including 1.49.7 last beating or flogging McCarthy multiple Group winning 'Bettor Enforce' (who is a chance in the Redcliffe Cup tonight against Colt Thirty One). MIGHTY FLING ART (from southland) HIDDEN COURAGE , and generally the whole Grimson/ Trainor Team Barn is 'flying high' . quite sensational improvement. Well done them I spose???, stewards can't work it out , and the barn has 8 in tonight at Menangle. Poor 'Spellbound' looks to be in for quite a 'fright'.

Hey your new driver did a good job in that Jnr race Jonesy !! Rough and Ready alright. Bit of a fierce going thing throwing it's head around, but your girl timed run beautifully from last in running, to score well !! very good. Book her now for Sweet Lou filly drives is that what you're thinking? (If 'Zac' hunk Butcher Effron not available)

Could be up shitt creek too lol. with hot tips. my wife adores that show, (Schitts Creek) says it's the best on television.!! If you like beautiful grey gallopers , and is kiwi -bred, and we have a bit of rain like NZ that she loves , and Chris Waller training, and a very weak field compared to what she is usually against , and the on-fire Tommy Berry riding, we have it all for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POLLY GREY in at Eagle Farm R4 Tatt's crown tomorrow , who fits the bill nicely . looks a special. who needs Johnny ????

Well another way to fix it would be for the Brodster to come up with a good tip for tonight !!! lol ...Sugar Me? paleface adios has done his bit and come up with SHOCKWAVE (potential superstar in Perth tonight) , although as a Geelong Cats supporter is licking deep wounds today lol...., inflicted by the Mighty Brisbane Lions last night ! tough Luck paleface !lol....... made to look like pussies lol. Redcliffe Derby and Cup on here tomorrow . Superstars KRUG (should win the Derby by a minute), and COLT THIRTY ONE the group2 Redcliffe Cup , to go past $1,000,000 in prizemoney won, and become the 2nd best ever QLDer to Black's a Fake.!! what an honour . Today Bob Butt from NZ, is having a drive at Albion on a trotter !!!! wow ! let's back him in ?? love a good kiwi driver R9 IMA CALVERT ROSE .from the high performing Butler stable. so it's SHOCKWAVE - KRUG - COLT THIRTY ONE - IMA CALVERT ROSE quad at 30-1 !!! $2 gets a carton !! Com'on Bob !!! do ya bit and win with the trotter and join the 3 superstars !! I can taste the beer already hehehehe

Yes I thought the same in Aus. very slow to get the vaccines to rest homes, the people that are in most risk. and keep shutting down cities and internal movement everytime a hotel quarantine gets broken. Sydney in disarray currently , as is 1 million folks school holiday plans due to start after today. all getting a bit silly. As you say , treat/isolate the elderly to keep safe as possible, and let the people get on with their lives. UK are trying to get on with it and get back to Royal Ascot , football and of course their work as much as possible , even though the daily UK Daily covid cases number has risen to 16,000 positive per day. There's only 20 deaths per day average. (103 past seven days) so doesn't seem as deadly as what was made out, it just seems to compare similar to the Many of strains of flu, that occur world-wide every year.

Absolutely!!, Every week all year round Addington and Alex Park should have 2 meetings. One for the fast class metro, and one for the lower class , slower ones. they are Prime centres. they need to be fully utilised. (Albion,Menangle,Globederby,Gloucester,Melton) 5 states have been doing it for years , and it works beautifully. Costs to much to travel far these days, and trainers have horses at home to work so they need regular 'short' trips to the races. Those Aus tracks don't race Sundays either, as even HARNESS folk deserve a day off ONE DAY a week lol.... still have to have someone feed/swim/drench/shoe/host visiting owners do a few hours though. (slow old Tassie backwater races Sundays however) Use Sunday for family and friends and celebrating your Big Saturday night Metro wins !!! lol...... it's quite a long week in harness.