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Samantha's Moon beating 6 Williamson trotters today. That is quite a good feat indeed !!! Kirsten's Big moment was 4 years ago winning the Group 1 Breeders stakes at Addington in Feb 21'. Beat the million dollar mare 'Amazing Dream' by a Head with WATCH ME NOW. (they were 10 lengths clear of 3rd and the field) so to beat Mark Purdon in that sort of race shows she must have plenty of ability. was a great drive. Of course when a horse wins a big one like that the offers come In , and Watch Me Now sold off to the yanks soon after. with a good record of 7 wins from 17 starts in NZ. Is a shame these sort of trainers don't get to keep their 'Real good' horses and make a bit of a name for themselves. just go back to the back-blocks looking for another after sending their star horses off to USA or AUS. Poor horses left behind make you look poor lol 🤣😎
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Well Te Akau no good in Oz with Captured By Love sadly Chief. Mr Zhang and his Yu Long colours flying out in front by lengths . with Treasure The Moment. It's quite a horse that one. is gunna win heaps. Very impressive wins lately. you'd think Yu Long would be happy with Via Sistina winning everything? lol 😅. paid 10 million for her so I guess she should win something lol. At least Magic Time got beat into 3rd just now . Yu Long winning quite enough already 😎 . Godolphin Shiehk took out the ALL STAR MILE. off course no happy owners bouncing around trackside there either, with Tom Kitten . the pussycat getting the win today for the Blue army. no one to film all excited though 😋 They did find the neutral ambassador lady (covered in tattoo's) to interview though. She had won $100,000 , from drawing the 'Kitten' in the 'draw of horses for the Mile. she was quite funny lady. Gunna buy herself a race horse now. Do you think she knows how much they pay for these things ???🤣😂 she's in for quite a shock I think.
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Nice win Chief !! Te Akau strike again.🏆💰 Tiz great thing, as they have bucketloads of owners don't they ? Gets a bit boring with Goldolphin Billionaire Shiehk and Yulong Billionaire Asian dude, or chicken King progeny owners winning in Oz feature races all the time 🙄.
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That great time of year when the champions of the track strutt their stuff. Are you guys getting behind Sooner The Bettor ( after a great 2nd place last year) and Ant's on the new kid on the block Tact McLeod ? or giving in to the power of Leap To Fame and conceding defeat ? the miracle could happen and someone knock him off. some great ones have come up a little short in some fabulous past Miracle Miles. the late great Vinnie sitting parked out here in photo a lap to go, in front of the huge crowd managed to Win the day still somehow, got a bit lucky lol 😁.
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I'm sure those that go along will have a great time, and see some of the best horses going . The horses look so fabulous in the parade ring / birdcage especially. you can see them up close and enjoy the atmosphere. The tele coverage is excellent for these events this century as well though. So a lot of people enjoy their own food and drinks in their favourite chair/couch , while enjoying the amazing action. Just the way it is these days. On-course attendances are only a small part of the viewing audience. certainly not the be-all/end-all of it. Great win today by NZ in the cricket. but it won't mean bigger attendances at the cricket. Just a sign of the times , and the state of the economy has a lot to do with it as well. Household budgets running fairly tight with Bigger mortgages and rents these days , than we encountered in the days of large on-course attendances at the races. The owners (slot holders) put up a lot of money themselves these days , to put against each other . this is a good way to go now and into the future, and has been quite successful in the harness world past 4 years, as the horses can race for BIG stakemoney , which means not only do we get the Best horses assembled and therefore the Best racing , but some horses earn a good bit of earnings as well , without breaking the industry funds annual budget.
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When you run them in New Zealand. With the crisis of having not enough horses to race anymore , the Addington FFA class of horse standard has reached an all-time low tonight. race 7 In a bit of a joke really Steven Reid has 2 of the favourites who both Boast 11 career Starts for 4 wins each . (and could nearly Quinella it) Old entire 'Beach Ball' could nearly win first up , with that class of horse in it . Where's Wag Star this week ? could of taken this out .got a gutbuster the other day I spose. The North Island having the same problem of course with The Big Lebowski and Hey Bartender taking on Copy That not that long ago while 4 or 5 low class win horses. The horses have to do some hard yards (work their way through the grades) BEFORE they take on the big Guns (of 'Real FFA class') like Merlin and that. If they don't they will be frizzled out like Hey bartender, Simply Sam , Taipo, and a host of others that were sizzled before they were ready for it. Solution : Run more MID-class races (every week) with small fields (so MORE horse achieve this requirement) so horses gain confidence, gain some ratings and don't have to start in FFA at just their 11th race start s? Same thing happened to the trotters . Only 6 horses in a Group 3 trot classic tonight. 5 are nice trotters. (the number 1 should of been sold off to Oz a while back) Sundee's Son and Muscle Mountain and Bolt for Brilliance destroyed the nations trotters with outstanding smashing displays in fast time. Your nation of trotters hasn't recovered yet. 'One Over All' and 'Just Believe' both flying in from Aus and then 'having a picnic' feeding on the carcass of NZ Trotting FFA class. used to chock full of talent . not much left now 🤕
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NZ galloping form is very hard to follow. many horses have a zero then a win , then a zero . that sort of thing. so you are right , that does make it hard to pick one. Vic gallopers are Much more consistent. I think you would find serious HORSE Punters in NZ would be backing Australia gallops meetings . alas, couldn't get a winner Friday Albion, but bounced back ok Saturday with an Ellerslie Guinea's winner and My other 2 bets at Caulfield were She's Bulletproof (narrowly defeated at 6-1 Oakleigh Plate ) and Mr Brightside who always turns up and gives his best. Horses that try are what I look for lol. Mr Brightside is a real star at that. I liked The Janitor for QLD at Menangle in the Paleface Adios Stakes too. went great , but too far back this week in the run . made up many lengths. Got a bit last week though when Cam Hart, a better driver was steering him. The harness horses of high calibre like those are great, they run true to form and give you a run for your money nearly every time. Muscle Mountain and Oscar B for example. They just bounce back so quickly after a defeat ( I lost a bit on Oscar in the Great Southern Star) . Oscar has won twice since, bouncing back quickly, over here already 😅 , the old bugger lol 🤣. But the calibre of horse at Washdyke like Arizona Wildcat being tipped ?? that just made me laugh out loud 😂. How would anyone want to even risk a single dollar on that sort of horse.? Newmarket was tipping pounamu on a thread whose form is this Last Start 23/02/2025 Form 506760200565 Very hard to invest anything on that? with all those nice gallopers (like Mr Brightside) in action around the place.🏇 Focus on NZ harness you say? you just couldn't with any confidence??. so many better options around. where your horse is actually in the race and not tailed off due to some unfortunate incident lol.😁 And real Punters actually like to Win , not just hope they can win. (You need horses that try to Win to do this)
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For all you armchair experts - here is a view from the Sulky seat!
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
Loved the way though that he gave it a flick flick flick right at the start , even though drawn on the second line 😂. Got the horse switched on nicely , and he knew it was 'race-time' . Brilliance . I think this great video shows how little time you have over a mile. They jump into formation so quickly it is almost like the horse knows where to go from the barrier it has !! 😂👍 they're beautifully tuned these days. That's where NZ is slightly behind . still running a lot of standing starts , and too long a races and too many in the field a lot of the time as well , which REALLY stops them ALl having a chance of winning the race. No doubt those long grass tracks straights and 2400m + distances they often go (taking about 3 minutes of time ) do give the driver a chance to 'buy or' bide' his time a bit better. A lot tougher on the horses though . Brodster is right, in that the mile racing is quite boring in comparison though. And it also means the New Zealand drivers are really good at rating horses over those longer distances so become excellent drivers. I've been quite surprised at how good Cam Hart and Jason Lee handled it at Addington, but they are absolute Top Notch. The bloke winning in this video winning had a drive on a trotter in your NZ trotting Derby 2 years ago. Nathan Dawson got hung out to dry by some good locals though and was 3 wide for a lap, but still a credible 4th. so he would struggle with the NZ style. The mile driving becomes almost instinct. Just ask Dexter. Every race USA. It's just a speed burn. -
Posts like this aimed against other posters and contributors are EXACTilley the reason those in Authority of any kind in Racing Should and Do dodge any social media forums. And a pretty sour generalization of a broad group it is too .
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For all you armchair experts - here is a view from the Sulky seat!
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
Not a chance of it being easy. No race anywhere. Thanks for that Chief 👍🏆. got a tingle up the spine watching that . Next time pop the whip in the left hand even better lol That was a Group 2 race worth about 50k from Nov 2022. Nathan Dawson the winning driver. He drove in the recent World driving Championship here too. and is very good. The thing that gets me most in a race (any race) is how fast it flashes by when you are competing. The 2 minutes of the race seems like just 30 seconds when you're out there as everything is in FAST MOTION. flat out Go to Woah. you barely have time to make a decision of any kind. Just go with the flow. It's like rafting rapids 😅 *** Notice Nathan was going to go for the passing lane from 3 back on fence as they turned for home , BUT didn't even have Time to do that 😂. He came through between the 2 up front instead, which is not usually available. What a great sport horse racing is. one of the only ones where you have pairs of great athletes working together to not only run fast as you can, but beat up on others trying to do the same thing at the same time !! amazing stuff !! -
I certainly admire you supporting the 'backblock' horses at the TROTS (along with The Galah and Newmarket or whoever is having a go ) But in All seriousness , one has to be pretty well off, and have a unaffected by money mind, to risk any cash on Fergalicious and all those type of horses racing at that meeting yesterday and similar ones. Arizona wildcats? please..... Better off buying my milk. I actually want to win with 'every dollar' I put on . (don't even box trifecta's if taking one lol 🤣) I make most money off football gambling dollar wise. like a lot of sports gamblers that know there's too many pitfalls in horse racing 💰. Then the gallopers (Victoria gallops nearly all the time as most consistent, then Sydney ) although had a bet on The DoctorOfLove at Ellerslie Guinea's yesterday which was very handy . Harness racing only gets a fraction of people's gambling dollar. I'm sure you know that already ?? there's Waaay too much risk with Standing starts, hemmed in in Big fields and all sorts of bad luck that can happen. And harness horses are just a hobby bet lol. There's Not many good horses around, and when they are , they are fairly short in the odds. I did ok Cup week (with $50 bets) and landed 10 out of 15 placed. Mainly on Regan Todd runners I was following. DSD got beat in the Cup on me , when nearly won. (bloody Swayzee again 🙄) cost me quite a large 4 figure sum collect on Akuta the year before I had riding with a lot of multi's in the Cup. bloody Swayzee. wish I'd NEVER heard of the bloody horse 🙄🤕
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Well it's all over and Angus Garrard , at just 21 years old is the Ultimate World Driving Champion. Angus adding the championship to his tally of near 900 wins already , at a very young age. His expert knowledge of the track , and horses, and a great selection of drives by his SLOT holders have meant he has won 2 races on each of the 2 nights and won comfortably from Pete Mcmullen. Angus actually was drawn with 2 of Pete's stable horses running 1st and 2nd with them lol . (Pete being the best trainer at Albion along with Dixon) Gamma Early Prediction not too far off with Pete winning 3 races Saturday night to close in on Angus, with his expert knowledge of the track and horses as well , helped him to gain 2nd place in the championship . ( His slot holders picked a poor book of drives the first night for some reason). Kate Gath from Victoria didn't get a winner as her slot holders were fairly ignorant, and didn't pick a single horse for her in 20 races that was a solid chance Goop won his 2 races ok last night, and Gary Hall Jnr and Dexter won a race each. Carter Dalgety also grabbed another win , with a great drive in a close finish in Race 7 to deny Hall Jnr his 2nd. So All in All , was high quality racing and driving through the series, but ultimately was a bit like America , with exactly the same drivers going around every race, so made it seem like you were watching replays on occasion. Great to see Carter and Dexter in action though and a lot of Fun had by All. with $250,000 paid out and penalty free wins as well.
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Must be a terrible field then. That horse hasn't won since June 2023. How would anyone with any sense put money on it , when there's an amazing amount of good gallopers in today with great form and paying $5 plus. I suggest the Aussie in the Avondale Guinea's to be a chance at getting a quid 😉😎🏇💰👍 double figure odds too.
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NOW OFFICIAL that Pivotal Ten has a slot for the NZB Kiwi
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
It's not always about the money. A Top horse is hard to come by ,and so you might as well have a crack at the Big races if you get one. Mad if you don't . Horse doesn't know any better. (apart from they might go a wee bit slower if just racing mid-class compared to Cup Class lol ) -
Very poor Blair drive. He does that a fair bit lately. Wouldn't let the 3 wide horse of Tomlinson's cross to the death to give him some cover, then gassed his horse rushing needlessly at the leader down the back. Nothing left turning for home. think a senior driver would do better than that.
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Well pretty poor for the Allstars tonight. Ray Green/Delaney winning both the races , where Mark had the $1.40 favourite in each . Mark gave WITHOUT YOU in race 1 and DEMON BLUE in race 6 beautiful trails , but didn't Win either race.😳 Can't see 'Demon Blue' winning any Derbies this year on that run ? . Might need an Aussie trainer to sharpen him up a bit ? 😋 Ray Green and Nathan Delaney trainers having a good night so far with 3 winners 💰👍 and should be Winning Race 8 as well, would need a power outage to stop them winning that one ? 😁
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Any of you blokes going to watch the Ultimate Championship. Bloody Pete has scratched Carters odd's-on drive in Race 4 . so he can win it on my mates horse Smarter Than You. Think Pete too smart for Carter lol. 🤣😋 Hey I have one for you blokes !! 💰 . (as well as BADLANDER in race 3) In race 2 TEST OF FIRE is a good miler and trained by a kiwi bloke Chris Watson. Chris actually has the silver fern on his regular colours to support his homeland. don't take any notice of last start for Test Of Fire as, the 2100 was too far for it . They're not that brave some of these horses around here lol. 😁 So a 'multi TREBLE' of TEST Of FIRE into BADLANDER into SMARTER THAN YOU = $120-1 . money for Jam or even honey 🍯 races 2 , 3 and 4 at Albion shortly. 😉🍻💰😎 wish them well for us.
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The SLot HOLDERS have picked the horses they want for their drivers. A 'Snake' Draft was conducted today for the 20 races. (10 Friday and 10 Saturday night at Albion) Friday night see Very average Redcliffe class horses competing for the Penalty free wins . So you would think the drivers that good Barrier draws will be getting the most Points. Best bets Friday/ CARTER DALGETY for NZ has drawn a nice NZ Winner in Race 4 'Waikaka Magic' , and should win with that. Pete sure to do well in that with one of my Fav horses (won last time I went to Albion) in 'Smarter Than You' . Pete actually trains Waikaka Magic so will be seeing it win I think lol 😄. Dexter to complete the TRI in that one. 'Smarter Than You''s stable-mate BADLANDER should be winning the 3rd race for 'Iceman' GOOP . Dexter has the old NZer 'Daggy Lamb' in that 🤣. pretty fitting the kiwi drew that one ? lol 🐑. SATURDAY night see's the better MEtro Class city horses ( faster better ones so are much easier to pick 😎💰 ) Early prediction is Pete will be winning 3, Hall 2, Goop 2 and Dexter 2 races on Saturday night. i'll do a preview and some tips for Sat while they are competing in the Friday night round tomorrow night.
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At the rodeo sort of proves it Chief. they get frightened easily with anything touching them around the flank area. They use the flank rope to get those Bronco's Bucking , yet you can tighten a girth strap and horse doesn't care. You've worked with horses plenty and know the flank is a very sensitive area? you're being quite 'Insensitive' if you can't recognise that obvious fact lol 😆 🤣 ..there a bit of thinner tissue between the hind quarter and Abdomen. Ears are another quite sensitive spot. some of the sensitive buggers hate having the earplugs jammed in. there's a bit of technique to it.
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Couple of Fun results today at Albion Park . Jonah Hutchinson pulling off the 'Ultimate' training Feat with his 2 runners Dead-Heating Race 5. well done Jonah !! *1 MY ULTIMATE MARIO NZ Fr7 7 Jonah Hutchinson Paige Bevan $ 5.00 GS WFS OL 2 SWAB BAY GELDING 3 by ART MAJOR USA out of ALTA FLAMENCO (NZ) (A ROCKNROLL DANCE USA) Owner(s): A C Whitecross, M A Whitecross, J J Hutchinson, P M Bevan Breeder(s): Alabar (NZ) Ltd *1 OUR ULTIMATE LUKA Sr5 12 Jonah Hutchinson Jonah Hutchinson $ 3.70 fav 3WM WF L 1 BAY MARE 4 by DOWNBYTHESEASIDE USA out of JUST STOPANDSTARE NZ (ART MAJOR USA) Owner(s): J J Hutchinson Breeder(s): M J (Mathew) Day And in Race 7 an hour later, the newly married Couple (married 4 months ago) Narissa McMullen and Matty Elkins nearly Dead-heated for another Stable DH. Butt Matt being the Very obliging husband has let Narissa take the Glory by a half head to keep the 'peace' in the household tonight. Finding the 'right' result for a Happy marriage already !😎 good thinking Matty lol 😆 1 OUR BENSON NZ Fr2 2 Narissa Elkins Narissa Elkins $ 2.60 fav PRB GS L 1 SWAB BAY GELDING 5 by SWEET LOU USA out of HELENA JET (NZ) (JEREMES JET USA) Owner(s): N J (Narissa) Elkins Breeder(s): P G (Pat) Laboyrie 2 MOOPS Sr2 9 Matt Elkins Matt Elkins HFHD $ 7.50 4
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No one with the answer. It comes down to the fine margins between horses at the winning post that short course racing provides. None of this carry on with horses way off the bit a long way out, and strung out like browns cows that Swayzee did to them NZ Cup , or Leap To Fame did to them here in the Group 1 win last July over 2680m distance (world record) But by Leaning back with their driving style Pete And Dexter have a margin advantage as that every horse trailing them in the running is BACK FROM THEM about 1/2 metre (or a long head or so) on what they would be if trailing a normal style drivers in the sulky'. ***(Exciting new drivers Cam Hart and Carter Dalgety are slowly trying to creep this style in as well but by bit) they know the advantage !! , and are getting rewards with it too . Cam had to hook boot on wheel stay The Galah noticed too to keep the balance on occasion) with the home straight at Albion being 197m long , if Pete (who wins BUCketloads of races at Albion with this advantage) is in front the Trailing horse directly behind, not only has to make up the 3m behind it is normally , but another 1/2 metre as well. Doesn't sound much . But is critical in the hundreds of Photo finish wins we have at Albion with the short course racing , and horse trying to 'Dive-bomb up the passing Lane late. from other positions they can only Hope the leaders stop late to win in the photo. 1 and 8 barriers= ENORMOUS ADVANTAGE here. Dexter only has 8 horses USA fields to deal with, and big tracks there, so not an issue at all. On Aussie smaller tracks = It's a HUGE issue, and Pete McMullen will win By a half Head or nose, because he's already A-HEAD of them as he turns for home lol 😄. He's a GREAT TACTICIAN too. and fab driver.
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Just doing form for the Chariots of Fire Menangle, and that coming up soon. kiwi's went fair the other night , and probably not fully wound up yet. Fields are not out yet for Albion on Friday and Saturday for the drivers Championship. Odds have disappeared off Sportsbet (as fields are being finalized soon) but I think Pete McMullen and Dexter are a long head A-HEAD of their opponents and have been backing them both at 6-1 in early markets past month. I will put the answer to why they are a head on the Drivers Slot races thread in a minute.
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wow, they were tough as totara lol 😉. what a great head to head battle. saw an old kiwi trainer John Newberry 's horse led for a few strides out of the barrier. Diamond Eclipse driven by his son Matthew. It stopped to a walk a lap out though in that company. John started off in fine style on all those Brydon horses years ago out of Clevedon . his dad and uncle Bryan and Gordon were pretty wealthy and raced a few for fun. think Gordon actually Won the G1 Dominion Handicap with 'Cal Brydon' once ?, even though he wasn't driving much and might be his only Group 1 success. John Newberry did well with that trotter in Oz too. they first raced in Victoria , then he was in QLD for a good while. I raced against him and 'Brydon Duke' a heap of times. Brydon Duke would of started out at Auckland, but won about 30-40 races in QLD, because was a big powerful unit. He would of enjoyed a 'Swayzee' challenge lol. 😎 but would been really ' hurting' at the end though lol.
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Can't believe I missed that race. will have to dig up the replay after your exciting description here. you definitely could be a great commentator when not on stipes duty for sure. what an excellent description ! 🏆 Actually the heading for this thread could suit Captain Hammerhead , as much as I meant it for Don't Stop Dreaming breaking his personal drought, because the Captain' too has has a bit of 'bad luck' in recent times, with the DQ at Shepperton and some niggles that kept him away from the track as well. Some people in country towns sure got to see a couple of forces in the game though , last night , which must of been a real thrill with the NZ Cup Quinella horses racing in town .( Swayzee at Albury and Don't Stop Dreaming at Terang)
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One of the countries fastest and toughest horses finally breaks the year drought. Valentines Day see's him win his first race since last March (AKLD win) and Feb 2024 (when won 2 at Menangle) with a great win in the Terang Cup tonight . well out in the Bush in country Victoria the star NZ horse , driven beautifully by the stunning Kate Gath , has put paid to them easily . Even after drawing the outside of 2nd row. He will be in great stead to take it up to LEAP TO FAME in the Miracle Mile in March and might take him down this time. Sooner The Better will launch his campaign in Aus tomorrow night to try and pressure LEAP TO FAME next month as well, after his great 2nd in the Magic Miracle Mile last year. Well done Kate !! getting the champ over the line and back in the winners circle , where all champions belong. congrats to the Dunfords.