Gammalite

Alas Brodies idea is don't have BIG scale racing (like the brilliant slot races) Don't have Manawatu for the battlers ( as not enough punting is done on those race apparently ) don't have harness racing in the North Island ? Cambridge Midweeks were 'bad' Auckland race for too much money because they are 'elite' . so on so forth Manawatu has been excellent at getting young drivers like Harrison Orange, Wilson House, and young Crystal Hackett and some other juniors a HEAP of drives , to improve their technique and judgement. That not important to many punters BUT it is critical for the industry to have competent competitor drivers coming through. (too many old codgers go round in NZ all the time ) I wouldn't punt on them lol 🤣 You CANNOT HAVE Huge fields on the Big South Island tracks with the poor horses flogged over long distance racing. They do a lot of that shit from the 'out-dated standing starts too. it's a dinosaur of a race model. What Brodster hasn't considered is that these BIG south Island grass tracks fields may be better odds for his place punt or whatever the hell he does, BUT they are technically very slow horses. I think they race for too much money already 😁😂. QLD puts on slow race fields for the 2.00 minute mile horses every week for about an average of $6000. doubt anyone punts on them BUT they run them !! It's a SPORT. you need participants. they need somewhere to start every week. (in a vain effort to Pay their Way) Surely the Fast horses should ( and DO ) race for the BIG bucks. A better investment than running $16 k maidens at Addington or the like. The maidens should just run for 10k and pop that extra cash left over into a BRAND NEW 2 year old slot race !!💰( another great idea for progress in the sport by Gamma 😉 ) and will happen I reckon . HRNZ doing a Sterling job . Best slot race yet coming up this Friday. The BETCHA race. One of BEST RACE fields EVER ASSEMBLED . I would say the Best ever in Southern Hemisphere. and people bitch and moan about a miserly 400 k ?? 😋 that is so funny .The galloping people must think harness are complete Tight-Arses haha 😅

Isn't it great. They can run a Million Dollar race with the VERY BEST of BEST from 2 countries. With a few of the best trainers and drivers involved in the HISTORY of the SPORT. and it only has to put in a measley 400k. HRNZ must be dreaming and totally thrilled to bits, how lucky they are to get this roll up of great and tun such a great race in a back water place. for the cost of not even one house. Aren't they worth a million these days ? Putting Harness racing BACK on THE MAP . well done HRNZ . Watch out for the Aussie Quinella Brodster. In both races 😉 Gamma on the money . Brodster just 'spent force' with no money left. tough times mate, tough times for you old time battlers. 🏆😋

ReBORN soon in July TABman, with 2 heats instead of 3 to qualify for the final, which what was killing it. There will be 2 past Championship winners competing . 'Leap To Fame' and 'DON Hugo'. They will scare off a lot of the kiwis. NZ hasn't been the same since Allstars retired during Covid times. (The brand that sent Lazarus and Smolda to Australia for the Interdominion and WON ) and weren't pussies like they are these days. The Interdominion Final here in Brisvegas for the next 3 years. Come have a July holiday , and I'll shout you and Greg O'connor (what a fabulous harness man that bloke is) a 'Coffee' or 2.

The runners PAY a BIG chunk of the prizemoney themselves. Doesn't cost the industry much at all to run $1,000,000 races. The Industry is Looooving It . 👍😍 The BETCHA, The Eureka, The kiwi, The Nullibor, The TAB trot, The Protostar, The Ascent, The Velocity !!! win win winwin win win Brodster. It's called Buying a Slot .you can't buy one mate as they are too POPular and they go like Hot-cakes. and you're showing up as a bit of a DINOSAUR here, not able to adjust with the current way of assembling GReat Fields of the Best. GET with the Program Mate. You are the Only one doesn't give a damn . But you do really . as you wrote about it !! on ya mate . Enjoy the Fantastic Racing and watch out for the BIG Queenslander next Friday. Addington had a FANTASTIC new Slot for 3 year old trotters and 3 year old Pacers on Show day. They could race in $500,000 races because of this fantastic incentive. well done NZ Metro club Introducing those !!! 🏆🏆💰💰 Brisbane put on a $500,000 slot for 2 yearold's as well . They went 1.50. last year. Plenty of incentive to run lol.

Very rarely bet against Allstars. Was tempted to bet against them tonight by PINSEEKER , who I thought would lead. and then cruise in. But Jonny Cox woosed out completely, and the 'Rakero' horse took the lead instead. But along came ALLstars Mark at $26 and $4.80 Sportsbet with CHASE A DREAM for an easy win. Got a good trip after skittling 'Little Spike' out of the one one sit .😁 Bit naughty by Mark there at the first corner ? young Crystal squeezed like a lemon..should of backed him at those odds lol . He (Chase A Dream) might be the same next week in the Betcha Mile too. and some chance I spose. OscarB looked good too. might give THE LOCOMOTIVE a bit of a hurry up next Friday, I'm thinking too. 👍🏆🍻

The punters will be leaving Addington in droves when well supported trotters like Paramount Picture at $1.50 can't even trot. Like in race 2. Pretty embarrassing stuff being turned out by South Island harness racing lately.

Probably a good thing , as the enthusiast who might be listening from home around the country (and even Oz) don't have to wait half hour between races and get bored and go do something else.( like turn on the footy or something) Instead they might enjoy 10 minute gap between the trots racing ( like Australia has had for years and several days a week even) and place a few bets and stay tuned in to the action. Might even do it myself 🤔when usually don't bother (with nearly all the good racing being on Friday nights) . who is gunna sit around half hour between races these days ? Good to see some Sunday genius at work there at last. Should be 3 Nz trot meetings EVERY Sunday. would help get the 'horse racing numbers ' UP again too. possibly more young drivers would get a better deal too and get some more drives .

Owns 17 at Big Barrys. Owns 'Merlin' Mikey. The current holder of the Race by Grins Title. about to lose it though in a week or so. It's because we run a thriving business , and are trying to expand that knowledge onto all the kiwi's so they don't miss out over there. Sent Natalie along for a Decade when Blacks A Fake retired to show them how to drive well in races there. And now you've scored our lovely Brittany Graham for a while too. ( think she will hate the cold though and soon be back home with all us ex-pats in the QLD sunshine lol) But don't lose faith guys . The Racing !!! . The racing is through the ceiling Quality with the good stake money supplied by owner/ slot holders to the brilliant slot races. You got to see JUST BELIEVE and KEAYANG ZAHARA live , destroy the best in the land. and Swayzee swish off with some NZ Cups . ( 3 after this year ? 😋 ) The BETCHA race has seen the kiwis hold the Aussie Invasion at bay for the first 3 years . ( Self Assured, Copy That and Merlin ) but that is sadly about to come to a Crashing End when The 'DON' and Qlder 'LARRY' arrive to perform the 'Coup de Grace ' on NZ's last frontier BIG race next week . Did Oz win the Derby too ? KEAYANG Zahara took the trotting one last year , but Cullen got the Pacing one. Could of been the last NZ win in that too for a while too . (Emma Stewart has a Superstar 3 year old that will crush the Velocity and NZ Derby later on )

She's only a junior . so you can't expect miracles. Everyone on the forums is already singing the praises of young Wilson House . some more big wins Friday at Addington. and Crystal and the young Orange going real well too. The future looks veryy bright ☀️🌟 And I notice in race 4 last Friday driving 'awkward' trotters the FIRST 4 was the 4 junior drivers . An outstanding performance against the much senior drivers. 🏆 were not favoured runners either. No body got the First 4 at all, so pool carried over. The Present Maker - MM Sunshine- Buffy Northstains - Rachmaninov. driven by Wilson House 1st-Olivia Thornley 2nd -Mia Holbrough 3rd- Gemma Thornley 4th. Who is Mia Holbrough ? haven't heard of that one before?

Great drive tonight on Marketplace by Ferguson. He got Mo'Unga beat again too 🤣😁👍. Was thinking the 'choc's' could win a Derby this year for John Dunn , the way he races. and some big runs last season Just a real good horse. But maybe Marketplace has his measure . John drove the Choc's to WIN tonight in the colts millions , and gave it a great shot . Marketplace gathered him in easy though . Regan Todd another Big Race win. How good are Cullen and Todd training.? doing fabulous with a few horses each racing tonight . Stella Rouge was All out to win the Fillies Millions from the 2 Cullen fillies. Allstars unplaced in both these 3 year old races. a very unusual event. But great to see these young trainers have caught up , as is Fabulous harness racing action now. The FFA with a Clear Cullen / Todd domination as well with DSD and Mo'unga . surely Ferguson Not driving to get Mo beaten again ?? hahaha . better call SAUL, or better call Forbury at least.

A few easy reasons for you are the cost of running one (a horse) is more than it's worth these days in trying. The ones that do run go so darn fast that trainers like all Williamsons , are just too darn good at home down South with Empire City, Ruby Rose , etc. and you can't win. the mile rates are way too quick they run. You need slow Thursdays to attract the slow horses. Just race for a few 1000. Redcliffe had it's slow race day today . They do that each Thursday. For horses only running 30 second quarters. that's as fast as they can go lol. but you still need some races for them to keep people involved. As a side note for something different> I see SWAYZEE"S Brisbane training stable (ex-pat Tim Butt and son Riley Butt) had the single worst day today, I have ever seen a stable have in this state. 5 horses running . None galloped but were all Beaten a total of about 300m between them . 3 very long lasts in just 30 second quarters ?? 2 were banned , 2 warned for being uncompetitive and on last chance to race truely, and the 5th one was $3.20 and got beat a long 40m (beating home the Korbyn Newman driven Stablemate . Bet he wishes he was back at Dunn's already 🤣😉) At least I can see why Swayzee ran unplaced for 8 starts running now , while in Queensland before Grimson days 😋

Finally concluding today, another positive for Grimsons offsider, the young kiwi lad Jack Trainor from a year ago . A positive swab for NZ horse MANHATTAN last March after a Menangle win . They tried to say the Butt's Bob and David) did it at home in NZ drenching cattle lol. The stewards didn't buy that story lol.🤣 A big fall from grace for the young man after those early career wins with Stylish Memphis and some big runs from Aardies Express when she first arrived. AARDIE's Express running 1.49 for Trainor twice and winning a Group 1 last May in first 2 Aussie starts.. Then transferred to Grimson as he still has a licence lol 😇 AARDIE's Express with 2 second placings and a last in Group 1's for Grimson. Perhaps Trainor was the better Trainer ? fun and games.

Can't be too bad the way they're rated mate. as 9 of the 16 horses in that race (10 horses if you count the scratching ) have a WIN in their last 3 races starts. and old Rachmaninov won 5 starts ago. so that's a good grading and winning ratio. But do agree that is A super Tough task for a maiden taking on so many race winning trotters like that , for sure. Musn't be anything around that a three year old trotting filly can start in ? . should head to Manawatu maybe ? 😁💰

ALL Standardbred horses should go into a race ,Able and driven to Win it. it's the beauty of them compared to gallopers. none of this need a run or not out to the right distance yet type stuff that goes on with those galloping wonders. Mo'Unga was still 3rd favourite . behind fellow NZ Cup runner Republican Party (4th) and the race winner in Jolimont. One year ago I was tipping Jolimont as a strong NZ Cup chance ,(when Mark was driving it and winning) but ultimately he wasn't even good enough , JUST LIKE the rest of last Friday nights field , to even Start in the NZ CUP. Mo'unga should be totally Demolishing 'Frisco Bay' , 'Little Spike' and company. But wasn't driven like a NZ Cup running horse at all. Dragged back then trailing Colonel Lincoln (a 50-1 shot) 4 back on the fence. ???? Bloody Nora.😁 Mo was a handy 6th in the NZ Cup then beat Republican Party to win the Group 3 Summer Cup not long after that. He (Mo'Unga) should be driven to Win Against last Fridays weak opposition? , But was driven like a Coward to be honest. Didn't have one skerritt of a crack at it, at any stage. Couldn't even run in the FIRST 4 the way he drove it. A total RIP-OFF of all Punters monies. 💰 At least Marketplace was 'narrowly' beaten, And beaten By 2 horses that are very good , 'Rubira' and ''Choc's' have beaten him (Marketplace) convincingly in the past. I have no issue lol 🤣 but Big Mo ?. what a shameful thing that was 😜

another funny add on to this story I forgot to mention, is that the kiwi connections wanted to name their purchase after one of the greatest Rugby players ever in NZ. Richie McCaw ONZ. (captained NZ in 110 of his 148 All-Black tests) but some Aussie fuc.wit stuffed it up and mis-spelt it McGaw during the naming process. at least they didn't make it 'macaw' I spose, although The Galah might have enjoyed that. 😎. well done to the Browns !! champions of the day winning the Showdown with McGaw. (sure to win some more too)

Yes and the disgraceful drive on Mo'Unga in the FFA who was showing 5-1 , should of been 50-1 the way he drove it. I was just debating with another former driver at another channel, about Mo'Unga whom he considers to be near the top horses in NZ. ( I told him DSD is) Ferguson drove big Mo like it was the worst horse in the race. the horse wanted to go early too. He just wouldn't let it. So it looks like a Double Life sentence for Craig Ferguson in that case ? . no parole . guilty as charged Marketplace and Mo. Penalty? well think Craig is considered a flop by all and sundry 😎 and should have to explain himself to Forbury 🤣😂😋

some great placement by some kiwi's there today . Emma Lee and David Brown have stepped it up a notch from racing the 'Elephant' and 'Rhinoceros' with McGAW who wins today a Million dollar race at Caulfield. They went absolutely nuts just now down at the running rail as McGAW at just his 2nd raceday start , wins his 2nd race . Todays worth $550,000 for the winner !! A nice step up from the 30k he picked up at his first run. I think they only paid a small amount for this horse at an Inglis Sale so have hit the Jackpot today !! A few other Kiwi Trainers might be tempted to set up in Oz now to join them and Natalie Young Trent Busuttin and others that are cleaning up some Big bucks in the Lucky country.

sort of. I think you heard the saying 'a fool and his money are easily parted' . Gamblers are easily parted with their money at times . happens every Tab , every casino ,every day . Fact of life. Most of us invest on the harness here because we enjoy the action. I think (going by this very thread even) that most of the 'Bit of a Yarn' folk are quite good at judging a lot of the action. Galah is even exceptional (at times) 😉 can spot the odd dropped foot lol 😁 Doubt any of us are making a living out of it these days, where you would be more 'careful' with your dollars. my main bets have always been on the football when wanting to make a few bucks. (There's ONLY 2 starters , so a lot less can go wrong , like C.Ferguson driving 🤣) Punters are often fooled out of their money . well . Brodie the exception, is no fool and says the harness action is good to follow and makes a quid , and wouldn't touch the gallops, etc . seems a wise strategy. I was a fool last night and bet just 2 horses that got 2nd and 3rd. And Immeadiately thought straight after that Brodie would of just gone a Place Bet and come out winning if he placed the bet (s) 😆 . The Choc's went good , but got beat by a smart driver (Mark Purdon in his twilight) but a place bet was probably the go. More the fool am I. and 80 bucks less but won that on Crystal at Manawatu anyway 😅 ( and have even more respect for Brodsters strategies now lol ) I was always in favour of Inca, along with you . Policing of sports events is important. Race fixing is a crime . It's called match fixing nowadays , and is a police charge ( not charges by stewards/stipes) so is quite a serious matter. Any deterrent to such behaviour is fine by me. When I came along here to BOAY a few years ago, there was that many posted accusations of Systematic Race fixing it was almost ridiculous ,throughout the harness racing world, so the Inca Naysayers should check those posts out lol. some action was taken to investigate over time . (Police are more easily fooled than Punters though😆😋)

Well no doubt the horses will have different barriers next start (barring coincidence) so will be driven differently. I strongly believe that Stipes CANNOT tell a driver how to drive a horse. They are not the trainer , and so the driver goes out there to do the best he can against the opponents assembled. If they (sites) penalized every mistimed losing ride /drive there would certainly be NOT Many left to go round in the next race.😆 Drivers/jockeys often mis-time their runs . and get beat . happens all the time . Personally, I think the Craig Ferguson drive on the 'Bit of a Yarn' favourite horse Mo'Unga was very , very poor. Mo was Never a hope in the world the way he drove it over the short distance of that race. Gave it NO HOPE whatsoever. But what can you do it about it ? grizzle to the stewards ? lol 🤣 (just wait till next time lol )

Punters are definitely fools mate. you know that. Only one in 10 wins each weekend. fools quite often really. They've been fooled since the first day of racing ever. Of course these forums are great for accusing people of cheating . Forbury even mentioned the greatest there has ever been in his lead on this thread. Mark Purdon with Amazing dream. Why on Earth would you think Craig Ferguson needs an Inca investigation ? for a losing drive? and was trying to fool the punters ? I have to say that NO driver goes out there thinking 'Lets beat the punters today' and Not have a go. goodness me. ONLY One horse Wins each race. The best horse Currently racing LEAP TO FAME got beat last week from the barrier draw. it happens. But a good horse with a Good driver beat him. exactly, As what happened to Marketplace and Republican Party last night. this is why you need no Inca on this occasion lol 😂. AS Brodie has said on this thread Auckland is a pretty shit track , going the wrong way round. Horse first time at it , driver not familiar . plenty of reasons to get beat. you wouldn't back $1.40 favs. It's just 'bookie' odds. OscarB even got well beat at those odds . Nearly backed the one that beat him too 🙄. a good trotter in Oz at times.

The horse is only a $1.40 shot ONLY because the bookie says so. they've fooled you guys for sure. Why should they rule the world and be better than the drivers and now the Stipes you blokes think can't do a job they are paid to do ? The first 2 horses home are Stakes winning horses. Marketplace did quite well and closed in on them late. Got The Chocolates drew one and has beaten Marketplace home a few times last year. And you all say that marketplace should beat him easily , as long as the driver gets going early enough ?? hahahaha 🤣 you're fooled twice in the one race !!! p.s As Republican Party and Mo'unga did in the fast class race . the 2 'Bookie' favourites but both ran unplaced. Bookie favourite mean Nothing , when it comes to winning races. Barrier draws do . this race a PRIME example.

Well No One on this thread is treating the 2 horses that Quinellaed the race with any respect either. Both Rubira and then the Choc's (twice) both beat marketplace at his first 3 starts last year. easily too. by many lengths. There's Nothing wrong with those 2 horses. My bet was on 'Got the Chocolates' from the barrier draw. I think he can win a Derby. Mark is of course always hard to beat. The problem is gallopers are allowed a run or 2 when returning from a spell to just run on late, and many many just do that and run on late , with no questions asked , and win at 2nd or 3rd run back from a spell. Poor bloody pacer's expected to win ALL the Time lol. no matter what the opponent or anything. lol. Barrier draws can beat the best of them. Driver's just do what they think is best at the time. You saw it with Mo'unga early on in his career. I was only joking about Carter being in trouble for not 'taking off sooner' . But essentially it was the same thing. Quite a good field of horses , and he ran on late first up. JOLIMONT is No Slug either. Ferguson is no champion driver , but doing better than some .

Think you're right Brodster. Loved the Park and went there a lot and even had some runners there in younger days when starting out. But they're better to sell it off, clear the debt, and have a track go in the right direction ( go to the left lol) 😆 North Island racing better to bet on than Australian trots tonight though. Those tracks pretty ordinary too, like Gloucester Park. You just don't know how to pick the Auckland winners 🤣. ya better stick to Pinseeker old mate

Gavin Smith . I did notice that in the trot . He kept attacking the hot Fav Bet N Win with his drive , and ran unplaced. sure was a go forward drive at all costs alright 😆. What a great win by that trotter after that though . Bet N Win holding out Muscle Mountain who had cosy trip behind a stable-mate bunny. Maybe 'Bet N Win' is the next big star trotter ? Brodie would like his name anyway 🤣

Just put Crystal on them. solve all the problems. She's winning all over the place lol. Knocking off Dominion winner Oscar B and Marky Boy now with another great drive. Kyvalley Hotspur too good. But speaking of intent , how good was it to see Jonny Cox finally have some with Pinseeker , who finally gets his 2nd win at Addington. didn't think he would beat Rakero Rebel as doesn't usually drive with intent like that lol 🤣 go go Jonny 💰.