hunterthepunter Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Newmarket said: Its a small world ? small world???? Quote
Rangatira Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: small world???? whats up hunter you dont seem yourself Quote
hunterthepunter Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Rangatira said: whats up hunter you dont seem yourself im all good just I like to no what the small world newmarkets on about ranga Quote
Rangatira Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: im all good just I like to no what the small world newmarkets on about ranga i think newmarket likes to collect those little groceries from new world 3 Quote
Newmarket Posted September 9, 2018 Author Posted September 9, 2018 I dont want to do Garrick out of a job, but i have done my own digging. Amazing who has been interviewed, i have names but wont mention, but it is across the board in the harness game. Will say this, they all seem to be mates of mates, relations or tied up in other ways. I suppose this was always going to be a problem for canterbury with such a close knit group. 1 Quote
Rangatira Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I dont want to do Garrick out of a job, but i have done my own digging. Amazing who has been interviewed, i have names but wont mention, but it is across the board in the harness game. Will say this, they all seem to be mates of mates, relations or tied up in other ways. I suppose this was always going to be a problem for canterbury with such a close knit group. many more interviews than arrests Edited September 10, 2018 by Rangatira Quote
Newmarket Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rangatira said: many more interviews than arrests Have to interview sometimes before arrested. I would be very surprised if only 11 arrested. Good to see police looking closely on Nelson racing. Quote
Rangatira Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Newmarket said: Have to interview sometimes before arrested. I would be very surprised if only 11 arrested. Good to see police looking closely on Nelson racing. give me a ball park figure for total race fixing related arrests and i think i will say lower or much lower Quote
Newmarket Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 I would say drugs & race fixing, over 20. Just my view Quote
Chief Stipe Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 46 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I dont want to do Garrick out of a job, but i have done my own digging. Amazing who has been interviewed, i have names but wont mention, but it is across the board in the harness game. Will say this, they all seem to be mates of mates, relations or tied up in other ways. I suppose this was always going to be a problem for canterbury with such a close knit group. Which makes me think this could turn into a circus and there will be a huge legal grey area to traverse or wade through. 3 Quote
the galah Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Which makes me think this could turn into a circus and there will be a huge legal grey area to traverse or wade through. One must assume the police have the capabilities of properly investigating said activity and I see no reason to say it will turn into a circus. The cases in Australia are examples of where charges laid were proved. Sure there may be charges laid that may be withdrawn,additional charges laid, plea deals done,etc,etc but the only reference to a circus I can see happening would be the totally understandable media attention it gets. 1 Quote
gee Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I would say drugs & race fixing, over 20. Just my view did you find a very interesting on linked to someone with a tittle 1 Quote
gee Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, the galah said: One must assume the police have the capabilities of properly investigating said activity and I see no reason to say it will turn into a circus. The cases in Australia are examples of where charges laid were proved. Sure there may be charges laid that may be withdrawn,additional charges laid, plea deals done,etc,etc but the only reference to a circus I can see happening would be the totally understandable media attention it gets. they are at the moment hence it just gets bigger and bigger 1 Quote
jess Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Newmarket said: I dont want to do Garrick out of a job, but i have done my own digging. Amazing who has been interviewed, i have names but wont mention, but it is across the board in the harness game. Will say this, they all seem to be mates of mates, relations or tied up in other ways. I suppose this was always going to be a problem for canterbury with such a close knit group. Ha! Close-knit you say.- bordering incestuous i reckon! ? ... So NM - what about the link with the galloping ppl? Or has the TB man in tbe CD just got involved as a result of his hospitality for the trotting guys when they venture north for the circuit up there? Any more gallops ppl in the mix you think? Quote
Guest CrossCodes Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, jess said: Ha! Close-knit you say.- bordering incestuous i reckon! ? ... Spot on there! Quote
Newmarket Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, jess said: Ha! Close-knit you say.- bordering incestuous i reckon! ? ... So NM - what about the link with the galloping ppl? Or has the TB man in tbe CD just got involved as a result of his hospitality for the trotting guys when they venture north for the circuit up there? Any more gallops ppl in the mix you think? Jess, I have heard nothing about the TB man, so Wont comment on that. But as we have seen around the world, many want to win while gambling at all cost. Throw in a truckload of drugs, young mates that think they are bullet proof, and this is what you get. Will be interesting to see who spreads the beans from those arrested. I dont think they should take the brunt of it, tell the truth. Quote
von Smallhaussen Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, jess said: Ha! Close-knit you say.- bordering incestuous i reckon! ? ... So NM - what about the link with the galloping ppl? Or has the TB man in tbe CD just got involved as a result of his hospitality for the trotting guys when they venture north for the circuit up there? Any more gallops ppl in the mix you think? Jess - can you whip down to the courthouse today to see what the 'guts' is??? Quote
Arsenic Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 At the moment it appears to be 11 people of interest on the harness side and you would think it’s only time before the Throughbreds names start coming out in the wash. Harness would have to reach 20 at least and throughbreds well I would hate to guess Quote
Brodie Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, Arsenic said: At the moment it appears to be 11 people of interest on the harness side and you would think it’s only time before the Throughbreds names start coming out in the wash. Harness would have to reach 20 at least and throughbreds well I would hate to guess Why do we think that there are going to be a lot more to come? Surely they would’ve talked questioned anyone of interest by now and been charged? There is possibly one or two more but can’t see more or they would’ve been charged! 1 Quote
Newmarket Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Brodie said: Why do we think that there are going to be a lot more to come? Surely they would’ve talked questioned anyone of interest by now and been charged? There is possibly one or two more but can’t see more or they would’ve been charged! Depends who tells i suppose. Lets put it this way, if a race has been set up, its hardly only a few involved is there. Be a wider group betting, so lets see what info cops have. No doubt they will be looking at betting from all agencies in aus as well, could take a while. Could be the best thing that ever happens to canterbury harness Quote
gee Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 guess we know more today as most them are going court Quote
Newmarket Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 Already details about Andrew Stuart, more than one race in question. Far more to come Quote
Newmarket Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Already details about Andrew Stuart, more than one race in question. Far more to come Quote
Brodie Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Newmarket said: You have to be kidding don’t you? Andrew been charged 3 times for returns of about 1k each time????? What an absolute waste of time if this is what is going to be a typical exampl e of this so-called race fixing. How on earth can Andrew Stuart be found guilty of race fixing on 2 of Mark Jones Horses when he isn’t driving or training them? If this is a typical example then it is going to be a circus seriously. I know it is early days but really 1k each time hardly STUARTGATE!!!!!! Edited September 10, 2018 by Brodie 1 1 Quote
Newmarket Posted September 10, 2018 Author Posted September 10, 2018 Brodie, for somebody who tells everybody your on the money, you let yourself down. Its irrelevant how much he stood to profit, if proven its a terrible look for the game. Do you think he did it all by himself?? Who else was involved, how much for them. Come on, your making yourself look bloody stupid, from your first post on this thread. 2 Quote
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