Gammalite

A few easy reasons for you are the cost of running one (a horse) is more than it's worth these days in trying. The ones that do run go so darn fast that trainers like all Williamsons , are just too darn good at home down South with Empire City, Ruby Rose , etc. and you can't win. the mile rates are way too quick they run. You need slow Thursdays to attract the slow horses. Just race for a few 1000. Redcliffe had it's slow race day today . They do that each Thursday. For horses only running 30 second quarters. that's as fast as they can go lol. but you still need some races for them to keep people involved. As a side note for something different> I see SWAYZEE"S Brisbane training stable (ex-pat Tim Butt and son Riley Butt) had the single worst day today, I have ever seen a stable have in this state. 5 horses running . None galloped but were all Beaten a total of about 300m between them . 3 very long lasts in just 30 second quarters ?? 2 were banned , 2 warned for being uncompetitive and on last chance to race truely, and the 5th one was $3.20 and got beat a long 40m (beating home the Korbyn Newman driven Stablemate . Bet he wishes he was back at Dunn's already 🤣😉) At least I can see why Swayzee ran unplaced for 8 starts running now , while in Queensland before Grimson days 😋

Finally concluding today, another positive for Grimsons offsider, the young kiwi lad Jack Trainor from a year ago . A positive swab for NZ horse MANHATTAN last March after a Menangle win . They tried to say the Butt's Bob and David) did it at home in NZ drenching cattle lol. The stewards didn't buy that story lol.🤣 A big fall from grace for the young man after those early career wins with Stylish Memphis and some big runs from Aardies Express when she first arrived. AARDIE's Express running 1.49 for Trainor twice and winning a Group 1 last May in first 2 Aussie starts.. Then transferred to Grimson as he still has a licence lol 😇 AARDIE's Express with 2 second placings and a last in Group 1's for Grimson. Perhaps Trainor was the better Trainer ? fun and games.

Can't be too bad the way they're rated mate. as 9 of the 16 horses in that race (10 horses if you count the scratching ) have a WIN in their last 3 races starts. and old Rachmaninov won 5 starts ago. so that's a good grading and winning ratio. But do agree that is A super Tough task for a maiden taking on so many race winning trotters like that , for sure. Musn't be anything around that a three year old trotting filly can start in ? . should head to Manawatu maybe ? 😁💰

ALL Standardbred horses should go into a race ,Able and driven to Win it. it's the beauty of them compared to gallopers. none of this need a run or not out to the right distance yet type stuff that goes on with those galloping wonders. Mo'Unga was still 3rd favourite . behind fellow NZ Cup runner Republican Party (4th) and the race winner in Jolimont. One year ago I was tipping Jolimont as a strong NZ Cup chance ,(when Mark was driving it and winning) but ultimately he wasn't even good enough , JUST LIKE the rest of last Friday nights field , to even Start in the NZ CUP. Mo'unga should be totally Demolishing 'Frisco Bay' , 'Little Spike' and company. But wasn't driven like a NZ Cup running horse at all. Dragged back then trailing Colonel Lincoln (a 50-1 shot) 4 back on the fence. ???? Bloody Nora.😁 Mo was a handy 6th in the NZ Cup then beat Republican Party to win the Group 3 Summer Cup not long after that. He (Mo'Unga) should be driven to Win Against last Fridays weak opposition? , But was driven like a Coward to be honest. Didn't have one skerritt of a crack at it, at any stage. Couldn't even run in the FIRST 4 the way he drove it. A total RIP-OFF of all Punters monies. 💰 At least Marketplace was 'narrowly' beaten, And beaten By 2 horses that are very good , 'Rubira' and ''Choc's' have beaten him (Marketplace) convincingly in the past. I have no issue lol 🤣 but Big Mo ?. what a shameful thing that was 😜

another funny add on to this story I forgot to mention, is that the kiwi connections wanted to name their purchase after one of the greatest Rugby players ever in NZ. Richie McCaw ONZ. (captained NZ in 110 of his 148 All-Black tests) but some Aussie fuc.wit stuffed it up and mis-spelt it McGaw during the naming process. at least they didn't make it 'macaw' I spose, although The Galah might have enjoyed that. 😎. well done to the Browns !! champions of the day winning the Showdown with McGaw. (sure to win some more too)

Yes and the disgraceful drive on Mo'Unga in the FFA who was showing 5-1 , should of been 50-1 the way he drove it. I was just debating with another former driver at another channel, about Mo'Unga whom he considers to be near the top horses in NZ. ( I told him DSD is) Ferguson drove big Mo like it was the worst horse in the race. the horse wanted to go early too. He just wouldn't let it. So it looks like a Double Life sentence for Craig Ferguson in that case ? . no parole . guilty as charged Marketplace and Mo. Penalty? well think Craig is considered a flop by all and sundry 😎 and should have to explain himself to Forbury 🤣😂😋

some great placement by some kiwi's there today . Emma Lee and David Brown have stepped it up a notch from racing the 'Elephant' and 'Rhinoceros' with McGAW who wins today a Million dollar race at Caulfield. They went absolutely nuts just now down at the running rail as McGAW at just his 2nd raceday start , wins his 2nd race . Todays worth $550,000 for the winner !! A nice step up from the 30k he picked up at his first run. I think they only paid a small amount for this horse at an Inglis Sale so have hit the Jackpot today !! A few other Kiwi Trainers might be tempted to set up in Oz now to join them and Natalie Young Trent Busuttin and others that are cleaning up some Big bucks in the Lucky country.

sort of. I think you heard the saying 'a fool and his money are easily parted' . Gamblers are easily parted with their money at times . happens every Tab , every casino ,every day . Fact of life. Most of us invest on the harness here because we enjoy the action. I think (going by this very thread even) that most of the 'Bit of a Yarn' folk are quite good at judging a lot of the action. Galah is even exceptional (at times) 😉 can spot the odd dropped foot lol 😁 Doubt any of us are making a living out of it these days, where you would be more 'careful' with your dollars. my main bets have always been on the football when wanting to make a few bucks. (There's ONLY 2 starters , so a lot less can go wrong , like C.Ferguson driving 🤣) Punters are often fooled out of their money . well . Brodie the exception, is no fool and says the harness action is good to follow and makes a quid , and wouldn't touch the gallops, etc . seems a wise strategy. I was a fool last night and bet just 2 horses that got 2nd and 3rd. And Immeadiately thought straight after that Brodie would of just gone a Place Bet and come out winning if he placed the bet (s) 😆 . The Choc's went good , but got beat by a smart driver (Mark Purdon in his twilight) but a place bet was probably the go. More the fool am I. and 80 bucks less but won that on Crystal at Manawatu anyway 😅 ( and have even more respect for Brodsters strategies now lol ) I was always in favour of Inca, along with you . Policing of sports events is important. Race fixing is a crime . It's called match fixing nowadays , and is a police charge ( not charges by stewards/stipes) so is quite a serious matter. Any deterrent to such behaviour is fine by me. When I came along here to BOAY a few years ago, there was that many posted accusations of Systematic Race fixing it was almost ridiculous ,throughout the harness racing world, so the Inca Naysayers should check those posts out lol. some action was taken to investigate over time . (Police are more easily fooled than Punters though😆😋)

Well no doubt the horses will have different barriers next start (barring coincidence) so will be driven differently. I strongly believe that Stipes CANNOT tell a driver how to drive a horse. They are not the trainer , and so the driver goes out there to do the best he can against the opponents assembled. If they (sites) penalized every mistimed losing ride /drive there would certainly be NOT Many left to go round in the next race.😆 Drivers/jockeys often mis-time their runs . and get beat . happens all the time . Personally, I think the Craig Ferguson drive on the 'Bit of a Yarn' favourite horse Mo'Unga was very , very poor. Mo was Never a hope in the world the way he drove it over the short distance of that race. Gave it NO HOPE whatsoever. But what can you do it about it ? grizzle to the stewards ? lol 🤣 (just wait till next time lol )

Punters are definitely fools mate. you know that. Only one in 10 wins each weekend. fools quite often really. They've been fooled since the first day of racing ever. Of course these forums are great for accusing people of cheating . Forbury even mentioned the greatest there has ever been in his lead on this thread. Mark Purdon with Amazing dream. Why on Earth would you think Craig Ferguson needs an Inca investigation ? for a losing drive? and was trying to fool the punters ? I have to say that NO driver goes out there thinking 'Lets beat the punters today' and Not have a go. goodness me. ONLY One horse Wins each race. The best horse Currently racing LEAP TO FAME got beat last week from the barrier draw. it happens. But a good horse with a Good driver beat him. exactly, As what happened to Marketplace and Republican Party last night. this is why you need no Inca on this occasion lol 😂. AS Brodie has said on this thread Auckland is a pretty shit track , going the wrong way round. Horse first time at it , driver not familiar . plenty of reasons to get beat. you wouldn't back $1.40 favs. It's just 'bookie' odds. OscarB even got well beat at those odds . Nearly backed the one that beat him too 🙄. a good trotter in Oz at times.

The horse is only a $1.40 shot ONLY because the bookie says so. they've fooled you guys for sure. Why should they rule the world and be better than the drivers and now the Stipes you blokes think can't do a job they are paid to do ? The first 2 horses home are Stakes winning horses. Marketplace did quite well and closed in on them late. Got The Chocolates drew one and has beaten Marketplace home a few times last year. And you all say that marketplace should beat him easily , as long as the driver gets going early enough ?? hahahaha 🤣 you're fooled twice in the one race !!! p.s As Republican Party and Mo'unga did in the fast class race . the 2 'Bookie' favourites but both ran unplaced. Bookie favourite mean Nothing , when it comes to winning races. Barrier draws do . this race a PRIME example.

Well No One on this thread is treating the 2 horses that Quinellaed the race with any respect either. Both Rubira and then the Choc's (twice) both beat marketplace at his first 3 starts last year. easily too. by many lengths. There's Nothing wrong with those 2 horses. My bet was on 'Got the Chocolates' from the barrier draw. I think he can win a Derby. Mark is of course always hard to beat. The problem is gallopers are allowed a run or 2 when returning from a spell to just run on late, and many many just do that and run on late , with no questions asked , and win at 2nd or 3rd run back from a spell. Poor bloody pacer's expected to win ALL the Time lol. no matter what the opponent or anything. lol. Barrier draws can beat the best of them. Driver's just do what they think is best at the time. You saw it with Mo'unga early on in his career. I was only joking about Carter being in trouble for not 'taking off sooner' . But essentially it was the same thing. Quite a good field of horses , and he ran on late first up. JOLIMONT is No Slug either. Ferguson is no champion driver , but doing better than some .

Think you're right Brodster. Loved the Park and went there a lot and even had some runners there in younger days when starting out. But they're better to sell it off, clear the debt, and have a track go in the right direction ( go to the left lol) 😆 North Island racing better to bet on than Australian trots tonight though. Those tracks pretty ordinary too, like Gloucester Park. You just don't know how to pick the Auckland winners 🤣. ya better stick to Pinseeker old mate

Gavin Smith . I did notice that in the trot . He kept attacking the hot Fav Bet N Win with his drive , and ran unplaced. sure was a go forward drive at all costs alright 😆. What a great win by that trotter after that though . Bet N Win holding out Muscle Mountain who had cosy trip behind a stable-mate bunny. Maybe 'Bet N Win' is the next big star trotter ? Brodie would like his name anyway 🤣

Just put Crystal on them. solve all the problems. She's winning all over the place lol. Knocking off Dominion winner Oscar B and Marky Boy now with another great drive. Kyvalley Hotspur too good. But speaking of intent , how good was it to see Jonny Cox finally have some with Pinseeker , who finally gets his 2nd win at Addington. didn't think he would beat Rakero Rebel as doesn't usually drive with intent like that lol 🤣 go go Jonny 💰.

Well Carter drew the outside with a short priced favourite as well. Republican Party at $2.10 . Mo'unga drawn out wide with Ferguson as well. The 2nd favourite. never a chance. Both ran unplaced. Like Marketplace drawn wide , you have to go somewhere in the running.??? It's impossible from those barriers , and as Brodster observed, Alexandra Park with that sharp crank as they turn for home and going the wrong way round , JUST makes it that little Bit Harder even. Are we throwing the book at Carter for the PubParty drive ? ( at least Marketplace got a place !! lol 😆)

Yes I think it's a 'numbers' and 'quality' game. Crystal always has her parents trotters to fall back on for drives , (with Bernie and Michelle being trotting experts) as the Northern racecards have often had 4 Trotting races these days when used to be only 2 for a long time. she did well for a bit to get Group 1 drives on Mach Shard and win the Messenger and that. Wilson House working hard with a large team . but only mid quality horses. a Mickey House staple. BarryP and ScottP have a very 'select' team including several Group 1 winners. so drives will be hard to get. Harrison Orange won't get much there, but is driving ability sees him get a lot of free-lance. (just like dad lol) Carter Dalgety is the cream of the talent though. Won the Auckland Cup recently and drove in the World Drivers Championship in brisvegas . Brodie 'on the money' picking him as the potential best quite a while back. Dalgety's stable have the ability to buy good yearlings and have real Top stock too. A Queensland mate of mine even has shares in 2 horses there, so their reputation is quite good .the old proven formula. Quality driver on quality stock = quality WINS . Why is the young Dunn not getting stable drives ? Jacob is it ? seems to get wins on some other stable runners. Dunn's have a lot of 'numbers' so should get some drives. Diamonds have a lot of horses but stingy on the drives. Korbyn Newman has left them to try and get drives here in Queensland lol .will be unsuccessful. That's a bit of a folly as we have 20 good drivers here who drive about 4-6 horses each, at each meeting. so they take up nearly all the drives. Newman should of gone TELFERS maybe ? 🤔, as they have the 'numbers' of horses, and as you say Josh Dickie not that 'great a driver' , and surely he is still trying to train horses with his dad up the road from Telfers northern outfit ?? Old Town Road ended up a flop and they lost confidence I think. but loved Speeding Spur (great Southern Star winner) in the trots before that though. so they do know how to train a horse ok.

That's an Aussie Kheir one as well I see in the famous colours he shares with John O'Neill. Exhuberance so good to see Mark Walker getting some ''outside drives' 😆 away from big Dave and co in the tangarine . He is really gunna make a name for himself with owners like those. ( they have won Cox plates, Blue Diamonds , etc)

Nice drive by Harrison to win the Manawatu Cup today. was hoping Wilson could pull it off, But Harrison drove the local horse Lord Delmar an absolute treat and beat the hot fav from Waterlea. a thrill for the locals there !! Peter Ferguson did win the first race ok. But the juniors of Harrison Orange , Wilson House and Crystal Hackett cleaned up the rest of the entire Racecard. I'm a big Fan of the young drivers getting a go , and those 3 are proving the point over past year lol 👍.

don't forget Cranbourne TABman. they recently finished the upgrade from 20 stalls to an incredible 70 . that's a lot of Bloodstock to manage daily. So Mark Walker has to come over now himself, and manage that lot himself , as Gleeson (assistant) was just doing the 20 horses. Did a great job with Imperatriz at the time though. Will this leave Te Akau vulnerable in NZ now ? with the head Trainer now going to Victoria ?

thought the Number One rule was backing the micky House Team at Manawatu ?😎 I'll be backing Wilson , HarrisonO and Crystal today in my TRI's . these young guns can beat those Old codger Fergies duo more often than not. Great young drivers. those old boys a bit 'tired' like David Butcher lol . 😂 Bit of a fluke those first 2 races that Forb's is worried about lol. Best of luck with your treble anyway. (Gotta Elect Bill seems generous odds in the Manawatu Cup prelude too)

that 2nd Placegetter in that Auckland Cup was amazing finish as well from the back. Tajanis went super. Would be putting him in a Melbourne Cup program starting tomorrow 😋 between him and Trav they dot the i's and cross the T's for a great shot at the BIG dance Cup. (Tajanis has more i's than Trav, so I'm going for him 😁 ) And will win it too, running like that. 🏇🏆💰

Oscar Bonavena up first shortly in a Group 1 trot. They just had the NSW Derby Final at Menangle in the lead-up program.. Emma Stewart to the fore with her good colts. (Grant Dixon with 2 QLDers did ok though 2nd and 4th) Did you see the race Mr Galah ? was very interesting to note how a lot of those colts were throwing their heads around quite badly. two of them even going off stride with the restraint needed to go 2400m when they're not used to it. They really needed a head check for balance , and control. Do you remember in the 80's NZ 'Everything' raced with a head check to keep it's head up and horse under control. ? when the Aussie Preux Chevalier came over to attempt the NZ CUp (he got 4th) he was one of the first I ever saw racing with out one ( they all do now lol) Preux won the Interdominion around that time , and the 1985 Miracle Mile too , and he started to set the trend of 'throwing away the head check' away altogether. Because he had fine balance and gait. think he was Lumber Dream nz-bred actually?.

The Big night has Arrived. Here's the latest odds. Captain Ravishing of Grimson's seems short. Must be because Swayzee will give him the lead to get easy trail, and no-one else (at a guess) 2 SWAYZEE CAMERON HART 4.00 1.60 3 DON HUGO LUKE MCCARTHY 5.90 3.10 4 SOONER THE BETTOR GAVIN FITZPATRICk 34.70 4.70 5 CAPTAIN RAVISHING JACK CALLAGHAN 7.90 2.20 6 MAX DELIGHT WILL RIXON 43.20 6.10 7 TACT MCLEOD ANTHONY BUTT 13.20 2.20 8 LEAP TO FAME GRANT DIXON 2.60 1.10 9 CATCH A WAVE KATE GATH 8.30 2.10

Well he has started already. Had 2 horses in last Friday and both won ok. 'Without You' paid $1.40 and trifecta was $203. and 'Rubira' paid $2.10 and trifecta $97. so unfortunately the trifecta's are paying too well for you. you'd Better stick to Westport and Southland 😉.