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oh whoops . humble apologies Brodie . you did indeed say he would be ok . I found it down the page and this is what you said . Brodie Members 6.3k Posted November 7 I know it was mentioned a wee while ago, that Steven Reid was probably heading to Canterbury, but I notice he is actually here! Where is he training from, do we know? Wish him all the best down in Canterbury, as he is a very good trainer.

Race 4 results The NZ Derby Prelude (Ian Dobson memorial) What a race that was. Blair chasing the Chase A dream with the whip 1/2 a Mile out !!!! that was amazing. He could of sat outside Hadron Collider for a while but didn't want to ???😳 ran out of gas last 100m lol. The Galah flies in with his RENEGADE , to be the Derby Favourite ? possibly. He's a beauty. (the Galah and Renegade 😁) must be a huge chance next week. Brodie having a gallop with the North Island Steven Reid horse , to not Shake A leg in that one sadly. Points after 4 races The Galah and Chief take over 13 points , Brodster 12 pts after that crazy gallop (it's a bad horse that one) and Gamma and JJ trail on 11 pts.

Well I would think a lot of the smaller folk (less wealthy) are likely to have a family broodmare and can choose to race or sell. Dean Shannon is a big supporter of the National yearling sales, and if he gets bonuses for the 6 or so horses he buys every year , that is good , as he continues to buy . and even though he (Big Dean) is getting lots of money from Merlin winning , he still has LARGE training fees for 17 horses and growing . He was the underbidder on Merlins half brother MAGICIAN who is racing in a few minutes. they paid around $200,000 for him so were hoping to get in the Derby for Dalgety's ( and win it like Merlin did last year) but he looks slightly 'Not trying Hard' or something. ? something not quite right 🤔

The Brodster Blasts the field apart with the Big BAZOOKA by lengths, and is a NZ Derby chance. Brodie saying Steven Reid might struggle in the South now he shifted there. But looks to be doing ok . Results race 3. Addington. Points after 3 Races as Brodie back On the money again and back on Top. Brodie 11 points, Chief 10 pts, Gamma 9 pts, The Galah 8 pts , JJ Flash 7 pts.

Results Race 2 the 2 year old filly trotters. The Galah , Blair Orange and the Hope team are the Big winners here with Habibti Pat. well done to all them. JJ Flash trots a Bold race to grab 2nd 😁 with Frazzled and gets the 4 points . Chief all dressed in Pink runs 3rd for the North Islanders. Brodie doing his Dosh with Dash Dosh galloping. Points after 2 Races. Brodie 6, The Galah 6, Gamma 6, JJ Flash 6 and Chief 6 points . so the exact reverse order of race 1 finish placings keeps it all very close !! 🤣

Results Points after Race 1 Brodie 5 Points . Gamma 4pts, Chief 3pts, JJ Flash 2pts, and The Galah 1 pt with the Big Merc. ( Meant To Be way too good in the 2 year old trot, gets the Brodster the early lead ).

Very Busy Night In Canter bury with the ACES races and plenty of Group races at Addington. FINAL teams to knock off JJ FLASHy Bloke are assembled. POINTS will be done on PAST the Post order . From races One to Nine . from the 5 Teams runners. Highest score end of Race 9 is the Winner and the BOAY Ace. ( don't let JJ Flash beat us up 😎 ) so have put in 2 more teams lol 😁😉 Brodie's team Race 1 Meant to Be Race 2 Dash Dosh Race 3 Bazooka (to blast his way to the lead) Race 4 Shake A leg Race 5 Shezagift Race 6 Miki B (replace the choc's scratching) Race 7 Classic Elegance Race 8 High Step Race 9 Hot and Dangerous JJ FLASH Team Race 1 Major Doosie Race 2 Frazzled Race 3 Warloch (likes a bit of a battle does JJ) Race 4 It's Tough ( JJ will find that out in the Comp here 😉) Race 5 Mixed Faith Race 6 Always Dreaming Race 7 Treacherous Baby Race 8 Baffled Race 9 Stella Rogue GAMMA Team Race 1 Tarragindi Race 2 Ya Rite Darl Race 3 Bonnie's Girl Race 4 Vessem Race 5 Rush Race 6 Demon Blue Race 7 Coastal Babe Race 8 Keayang Zahara Race 9 Joyride The CHIEF's Team ( horses with titles in name ) Race 1 Chester Gold ( the Major already taken) Race 2 Pretty in Pink ( all dressed up with no-where to go is Chief) Race 3 Commander Joe Race 4 Magician ( you'll need magic with that one Chief) Race 5 Muscle Sass Race 6 Captain Sampson Race 7 Duchess Megxit Race 8 Princess Sadie Race 9 Captains Mistress The Galahs Team ( need a 5th team to try and stop JJ winning lol 😆) no match fixing here 🙄 Race 1 Massive Merc Race 2 Habibti Pat Race 3 Salute Race 4 Renegade Race 5 Hidden talent Race 6 Marketplace Race 7 Ruby Roe Race 8 Empire City Race 9 Arafura good luck to all !!

no. not him. doubt he would race pacers as has never been on Standardbred threads at all or anything. Westview could help you set up BOAY as knows the INS and outs of a Syndicate. We'd be smoken Up outside Keayang Zahara in No Time !👍🏆 .

Queensland just pays a Bonus to a Qbred horses first race win . That seems to work well. Bloke winning the first race last Monday was quite delighted , and encouraged to breed on with his 2 Mares now. excellent. There is a NSW Bonus for $1,000,000 about to go to Swayzee. (after 3 more country NSW Cup wins to go) I was quite annoyed about this at first , as thought why does one horse already winning Victoria and NZ Cups need another million ??? but I have changed tune now after seeing his 2nd Nz Cup win. . 1/ some people in little out-side town country trotting communities get to see the Star of the show. And the owner (Bootsey) will Buy up a lot more horses with the proceeds (probably from NZ supporting the breeding industry there) and placing them with about a dozen different Trainers about the place. Even supporting a couple of young lady trainers here in Queensland . So All good 😁 !! Go Swayzee !!!

could buy some Westview shares ? to enjoy the racing in that case ? Old trotting mate Who races in Wild Night with Te Akau is in the 'Meant To Be' syndicate racing in a Group 1 shortly today. Having a great time. When you making the BOAY Syndicate Chief ?

The whole thing was stupid as you say. dragging it out like that. Better if the Stipes just watched the video over and over, decide if there was foul driving 'Immeadiately'. Get the betting sheets to cross check . (It's like flying a bloody airplane lol) and make an Immeadiate decision.) Police can get access then to the phone records of the parties if charges are laid. (for evidence) Job done !! No one has respect for RIU in the shape of they are trying to catch you out while you push the VERY close boundaries that THE GALAH mentioned earlier (very accurately) so you don't like them. The RUI that is . normal as normal can be . Like near 'everyone' picks on stewards, race starters, Investigators, (and even Referee's at the footy lol 😅) all the bloody time, BECAUSE they Make Decisions that effect Outcomes ! . ya gotta have em'all though, or it would be Chaos. Inca just a bit slow and were NOT up to the challenge 😉🍻

well they're only human. Policing and Investigating are very tough vocations . I feel sorry for them and others don't . that's fine. At least the negative INCA result is good for the Industry Participants. They can keep operating. (unlike Ben Yole lol 😁) I had a stable raid at the stable I was in , in NZ once, 4 stewards jumped out of a car and Immeadiately started asking questions. I Lied to them straight out . nothing honest about it. About something I said at the trials the previous day about a horses identity. You Lie when the going gets tough. to cover for yourself and your team. they got in car and drove away . problem solved. Yeay , I wasn't meaning the Apparell. I was talking about the response of the People Under investigation. Can you imagine how TENSE some of those situations are ? (not meaning a pitchfork) example D.Douglas hid in the dog kennel when the raid was on. (he was DQ at the time and not spose to be near horses) Example when they were catching Emma Stewart stable doing the race day treatments (something they got McGrath for there I think) can only Imagine how Tense those situations were/are .

a bit of a silly way to look at things Chief. Assumptions from a photo ? really. The RIU is doing a job that is VERY VERY hard. I didn't become a stipe because I hated the idea of stable raids. And people just Bull-Shit non-stop when it comes to crime and charges of anything at all. (example You're a stipe here in a way , and have to wade through quite a few pages of bull shit 🤣 and then cop flak about yourself for questioning some of it., almost daily? 😅) BTW you do a great job and don't listen to those nay-sayer galloping blokes 😋 INCA's job was to Investigate. i.e ask the HARD questions . Involving peoples livlihood. Picking on their Staff because of their attitudes is Just Rubbish . they have to be Hard. They are/ were doing a hard job . An impossible job at times with the LIES people tell to cover their areas in Each and Every situation. Police response has to be Assume 'armed and dangerous ' when suiting up for any house domestic issue. Who cares if they are laughing , proud, wearing hi-viz , guns, or clown hats. they're trying to gather Evidence of Crime.

Congratulations to them (Diamonds stables) and yourself as their number ONE ticket holder . A great reward for their hard work up the beaches and all around, and yourself putting in those absolute 'Through the Ceiling' efforts, to bring images and video to harness racing supporters everywhere of the Harness racing NZ style. congrats on your winning tickets as a handy reward to dedication. And a special thank-you too, for showing us on occasion some other players in the harness game as well , at the races, at Bob Butts, a Purdon visit and all sorts of things you've done to show the amazing NZ people and horses. via Unhinged. Tip Top Efforts un-rivalled anywhere. You are The gem of a DIAMOND in the Rough 🏆. Enjoy your Christmas dinner !!

Here it is Mikey . i'll put it here as it is just stunning. A NEW YEARS Eve to remember . Some of the Alltime best of NZ Harness racing. Amazing Stuff.

One of the greatest races on the yearly Calender. reduced to a mere $100k for the winner.?? just silly when you look at the Champions that have won it. and everyone grizzles Auckland gets to much funding. Doesn't look like it for their Flagship lol. 😅. should be worth 500k . The Aussie came and conquered last year. Maybe New Years Eve date can Stop that happening.? Do yourself a treat Mikey and look at the Brilliant driving display on 31st December 2020 that defeated the star horse COPY THAT. One of the Best races I've ever seen on the planet (top 10) Maurice McKendry feeling the heat in that one as the Copy That driver. what a treat for the Auckland Racegoers !! they should do New Years Eve every Year and have a party after. 🕺🍻 Anyway the Great race again saw the downfall of Copy That (the Double NZ Cup winner) April 21st 2023 to a famous Quinella again. Another fabulously Crafted race , with Blair getting out driven this time . The AUCKLAND Cup should be a Highlight Race of the year. for 'Open class' after the NZ Cup and FFA.

Both the runners were well in the market there in that Manawatu race. Any idea on the amount BET that was placed on the winner to get everyone's Hackles Up ?? as far as the drive goes, any pre race discussion about who is leading is fine by me, even if recorded. Is good to know who is gunna press on and who isn't rather than guessing . If Blair had decided pre-race he was gunna hand up to that other horse is perfectly normal . people get driving instructions ALL the TIME from trainers too. (Allstars are absolute marvels at it over the years. 100% impressive ) Blair didn't seem to reduce his horses chances at all, (and neither did old mate Leonard Cain in that Queensland example up above) Plenty of Horses win getting a mid-race breather behind the leader. Blair tried it with DON'T STop Dreaming in the NZ Cup recently. Should of just left the Aussie parked Out in my opinion as he (DSD) could of won it then? . Did my 50 bucks on DSD cold lol. 🤣

The only thing you could say is that Blair Orange was looking for that runner to come up and take the lead , even from early in the race , but that didn't really effect his horses chances of winning at all. The winner had to do 'the work' around the field mid-race , after drawing wide at the start. A good win . Blair had the sit on it last lap . No problem . could of beat it if his horse was good enough. VERDICT = Not Guilty Your Honour.

Fair enough. i shouldn't comment on how people handle it mentally (being accused of something) especially since the examples I quoted did have some quilt attached , whereas Brodie and Trojan are mentioning there is a lot of innocent parties involved , and they spent big dollars. The case here with Shane Graham and Vicki Rassmuseen was quite sad as just a DQ trainer wanting a few bucks. I know the owner well of the horse that won the race. (he has a share in Magacian there at Dalgety's too) and he knew Zip Zero about that race day. Leonard Cain was charged initially too , a young driver and terrific bloke , as was driving a noted front runner , but handed the lead up to the stable-mate driven by Graham. That one move could of destroyed his career. But thankfully they dropped the charges against him as was just following driving instructions in the end. Leonard ran 2nd on the stable-mate in photo. Shane got 2 years, and trainer Vicki a term out. as well . No mucking around here with funny games lol. The GOOD News is in recent years Vicki races Nzer TURN IT UP year to year on lease from NZ and he's earned 100k per year for her , with Shane Training !! bless the old horse. and them too. The horse winning this mid week race was only average . Sold off to Ben Yole Satable in Tasmania in the end. They tried several angles of pinning 'Race Fixing ' on Ben Yole rather Ironically. He had the whole field of runners many Tassie races 😅😂 incredibly stupid idea. Needed INCA to sort that mess out.???? 😂 He got banned in the end anyway. wonder how his mental health is these days ?? lol.

That in a sentence is the crux of the problem. Unfortunately they changed ye old race fixing to 'Match fixing' instead a few years ago so the Harness (or racing) people could no longer deal with it themselves. It's a criminal charge and those accused are 'Arrested' initially. My Personal opinion is it happens all the time (every week) in a small way. EXAMPLE Why isn't it match fixing if an owner is told his horse will be taken back and then try and follow the stable-mate up the last half around the field and come around it late on for victory. So the owner puts $100 win on. The plan works . stable-mate used as the bunny ? 🙄 . Match fixing ?? to a degree. the bunny was used to help another horse with an investment on it win ? . Is it how much money is invested on a runner that leads to charges being laid then ? probably. (and from what source) jockeys and football players just use their mum's names for the investments lol 🤣

Who was convicted ? Can't be wrongfully convicted if they weren't convicted in the first place ? Thought you said they found nothing. Amanda Turnbull was arrested here by the police . Then the charges were dropped later . think other very prominent Horsemen Nathan Jack and Mark Pitt were convicted instead. Jack faced 39 charges. At least they did their time and back winning Group 1's . just get on with it even after conviction. No one cares about Stigma and mental and shit like that. It's whether they can train and drive winners. And they are Big-time. Just have to toughen up and get on with it. Plenty of people have mental health issues. In fact everybody does. Some just play on it more than others. esp these days where ''payouts; are available. like army and police these days. Grimson goes around every week accused of things. Just get's on winning the Group 1 's anyway. That's the way to do it mate. Take no notice of the Nay-sayers. NZer'sit around crying cause you nearly got caught by Inca . poor Buggers. I don't care who they were/are. They're not that precious. just get on with it. I do feel sorry for McGrath getting 7 years, as the usual milkshake penalty was 1 -2 years ? . NZ RIU couldn't even get that right really. ' Manifestly excessive ' is the phrase. Hope he comes back and kills it. (on the track that is 😉)

well it must of been based on something ? otherwise they wouldn't of had it . Name suppressed I believe. I don't know who they are ? Do you ? what damage has been done to them ? Can they not race anymore or something. The real problem with Match Fixing is It's a Police Criminal charge . and the police are slow to uncover /prove anything as are dealing in an area that requires Specialist knowledge . (i.e How a Race Is Run) If handled correctly a matter like this is Clear Cut . 2 (or more ) drivers work in collusion to obtain a winning result in a race , from the Investment Betting On it > You could find out in Minutes from Betting agencies what bets are on a race . ????? And you can watch the race Video and decide on the driving tactics in Minutes ???? A race Fix is So damn obvious it should Slap you in the face . NOT to Be confused with 'Team' driving that happens ALL the Time. (there's no betting on them) A Race fix has a large/ some sort of betting outcome. We have small time race fixes that aren't traced somewhere in Aus every month. Shane Graham (and trainer Vicki Rassmussen ) had a famous one in Brissy 2017 when a disqualified former trainer wanted to put $3000 on a runner. Very easy to trace. Shane (one of our leading trainer drivers got a 2 year stretch. It's as clear as day . Vicki was DQ for a term as a trainer too. That punter is a MORON doing that to them for personal gain. It's that SIMPLE . A race Fix should take about 1/2 hour to prove ? not major 6 year investigations lol. 🤣 Keystone Cops you say ?? . Seems the case alright . they just after extra pay or something ? tell em' to have a bet instead ??😅🤣 (but don't talk to the trainer beforehand via text or anything 😂) unbelievable.

the forums are a bit like Footy Clubs JJ . Rivals on the field but ultimately support the same product. In this case it's harness racing. Collingwood v Carlton are famous rivals. BUt Just go with the Brissy Lions Mate . you can't go wrong then 👍🏆 on the money. Brodster saying some BIG Canterbury racing this week on this thread . How about pick the Group 1's . ? for a bit of rivalry. ? at Addington Friday Race 1 / Brodie horse is Meant to Be .(on the money. JJ = Major Doosie .(maybe can doosit) Gamma = Tarragindi (suburb here in Brisvegas) Race 2 / Brodie on Dash Dosh (on the money 💰). JJ = Frazzled (hope you come good mate) Gamma = Ya Rite Darl ( ya know right lol) 😅 Race 5 / Brodie on Shezagift. JJ = Mixed Faith ( they're all good mate) , Gamma = Rush ( rushing to victory 🍻) Race 6 / Brodie on Got the Choc's ( so he thinks 😅) JJ = Always Dreaming ( dreaming when you think you're winning) Gamma = Demon Blue (like the old Lightning Blue days, NZ Cup winner) Race 7/ Brodie is Classic Elegance lol . JJ = Treacherous Baby (proving a bit treacherous these days) . Gamma rolling NZ Coast to Aus Coast to get a winner with Coastal Babe (a recent Vic winner , that's how you do it) Race 8 / Brodie doing the High Step ( steps up when the going gets tough) JJ = Baffled ( how he got into this 😉) Gamma = Keyang Zahara (the wizard of Oz strikes again) wowwee Race 9 / Brodie is Hot and Dangerous ( especially when he draws well 😁) JJ = Stella Rogue ( JJ gone a bit rogue at times 😎) . Gamma on the JoyRide Aus ( enjoying the racing at Canterbury this week There you go JJ. 7 Group 1 Beauties for the big Races this week picked for you in 10 mins for some quality Fun Rivalry this week , to try and knock Brodster and Gamma over with. Gold + Silver and Bronze up for grabs !!! Who's the favourite ? (Chief says back the 3rd bloke surely 😂 ? )

Probably a real pain being restricted when you want to cut loose lol. He doesn't need the money anyway so don't know why worry about it so much . just put 50 on for a bit of fun . And don't worry mate, we'll convert him to LOVING Mile racing shortly 😉. With Swayzee winning the last 2 NZ Cups , Better Eclipse the Auckland Cup , Just Believe the Rowe Cup and Dominion this year ,. Space>> that's the FIVE Big '2 Milers' in a row to the tougher Aussies . Bang bang bang bang bang . The Brodster will be sick of this invasion of stayers shortly and be Screaming for the One Mile only Mobile ? burn the Aussies with speed ??🤣