MarkyMark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Brodie said: NO!!!!! well you are now lying, or your memory is failing you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Unfortunately already printed in another piece of the press there in Black and White sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: well you are now lying, or your memory is failing you Everyone’s memory is not as good as it used to be! Brodie doesn’t lie ever! What have I lied about???? A lie is an untruth, I don’t believe I have said anything that I beleive is not true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Nat up to her eyeballs in the the drugs side of this:// wonder who was smoking p on the way to the jewels!! Purdon fined $15000 for positive on dream about me in aus, involved in blue magic scandal....come on they aren't squeaky... and if you haven't witnessed their team driving you are blind, (thats not to say other leading stables don't do it)Time the whole lot was cleaned out and I can bet with confidence again flagship, you should be carefull what you are suggesting. Natalie according to media reports is charged with possession of class b drugs. p or meth is class a. my reference to cheating was post blue magic and my point was in relation to cheating / fixing the all stars as far as i know have not been charged with team driving. whilst the industry allows stables to enter multiple runners, this will always be a grey area i agree however with your sentiments and understand what you are saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Brodie said: Everyone’s memory is not as good as it used to be! Brodie doesn’t lie ever! What have I lied about???? A lie is an untruth, I don’t believe I have said anything that I beleive is not true! you are saying that you have not accused the all stars of cheating. i recall on multiple occasions you have. if i cared enough i would go over old posts, but im not that sad, im young enough to remember what i have seen. anyway its a waste of time, i was just calling you out. i know you are passionate about the industry and you are standing up for what you believe is right, i admire that. you just leave your argument short on merit when you contradict yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: you are saying that you have not accused the all stars of cheating. i recall on multiple occasions you have. if i cared enough i would go over old posts, but im not that sad, im young enough to remember what i have seen. anyway its a waste of time, i was just calling you out. i know you are passionate about the industry and you are standing up for what you believe is right, i admire that. you just leave your argument short on merit when you contradict yourself. My side of any story is always well reasoned despite some people not agreeing. You can call Brodie out anytime you like, MarkyMark, however Imwould like to see where I said that a stable Cxxxxxd. See I cant even say that word. Instead of sorting out some winners for Addington Friday night, have a look for when I said that a stable Cxxxxxd!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Brodie my respectful suggestion is you stop referring to yourself in the third person. It's creepy. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: flagship, you should be carefull what you are suggesting. Natalie according to media reports is charged with possession of class b drugs. p or meth is class a. my reference to cheating was post blue magic and my point was in relation to cheating / fixing the all stars as far as i know have not been charged with team driving. whilst the industry allows stables to enter multiple runners, this will always be a grey area i agree however with your sentiments and understand what you are saying marky you forgot jewels and the p sable hands 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, jess said: Brodie my respectful suggestion is you stop referring to yourself in the third person. It's creepy. Multiple personalities Jess. I get very confused sometimes 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jess Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 To those who have bagged the Police & the standard of the investigation & the fact that there's too much fuss about too $mall an issue ....etc etc I have no idea the quality of the evidence - what charges will stick - what people will go down. But one thing I do take some comfort in, is that this time, the artbiter of matters will be a District Court Judge. And I doubt a District Court Judge would buy a defence of the quality such as a derby horse grazing with the dairy cows and thereby ingesting a prohibited substance from their troughs .. So at this stage I am prepared to sit back & let justice take its course. Innocent until proven guilty. But there is no place for cheats in the game IMO - so if cheating is established - I think those people should have to look for another occupation. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: marky you forgot jewels and the p sable hands no didnt forget mate, i didnt comment because i dont know if the two cases are related. related in terms of if there is any connection between the stable staff using p, and what natalie is being charged for. it sets a terrible precedent though, do as i say but not as i do, but they were class a drugs, and rightfully dismissed. Natalie from what i understand is charged with class b drugs, and i believe from what i have read, she nor the all stars are not implicated in fixing. only going by what i have read. what i will add though, whilst drugs are a demon, and im ok admitting i have also had my troubles with them (long ago, say this as i can relate), its a very difficult addiction, it does not reflect at all well on the industry that its leading trainers are so heavily implicated in this. would a potential new owner of integrity want to invest in an industry which is tainted with drugs, cheating and corruption? I must also add, my opinion of Mark Purdon and the all stars has diminished. Because surely Mark mast have known Natalie is using class b drugs, you would surely think so. he is happy to fire his employees for using p and contaminating his horses (fair enough), but Natalie is ok to use illegal substances? and continue in the operation. and this is meant to be our leading stable in NZ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: no didnt forget mate, i didnt comment because i dont know if the two cases are related. related in terms of if there is any connection between the stable staff using p, and what natalie is being charged for. it sets a terrible precedent though, do as i say but not as i do, but they were class a drugs, and rightfully dismissed. Natalie from what i understand is charged with class b drugs, and i believe from what i have read, she nor the all stars are not implicated in fixing. only going by what i have read. what i will add though, whilst drugs are a demon, and im ok admitting i have also had my troubles with them (long ago, say this as i can relate), its a very difficult addiction, it does not reflect at all well on the industry that its leading trainers are so heavily implicated in this. would a potential new owner of integrity want to invest in an industry which is tainted with drugs, cheating and corruption? I must also add, my opinion of Mark Purdon and the all stars has diminished. Because surely Mark mast have known Natalie is using class b drugs, you would surely think so. he is happy to fire his employees for using p and contaminating his horses (fair enough), but Natalie is ok to use illegal substances? and continue in the operation. and this is meant to be our leading stable in NZ How would Mark know what Nat is doing.I believe they live in separate places on the property and hardly see each other outside of work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, jess said: To those who have bagged the Police & the standard of the investigation & the fact that there's too much fuss about too $mall an issue ....etc etc I have no idea the quality of the evidence - what charges will stick - what people will go down. But one thing I do take some comfort in, is that this time, the artbiter of matters will be a District Court Judge. And I doubt a District Court Judge would buy a defence of the quality such as a derby horse grazing with the dairy cows and thereby ingesting a prohibited substance from their troughs .. So at this stage I am prepared to sit back & let justice take its course. Innocent until proven guilty. But there is no place for cheats in the game IMO - so if cheating is established - I think those people should have to look for another occupation. The District Court Judge was not impressed with the Police for speaking to media prior to the accused appearing in court today. I totally agree and it should apply to the many on here that have treated the accused as guilty before they have a fair trial! Many of you have now been told off! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Richie said: How would Mark know what Nat is doing.I believe they live in separate places on the property and hardly see each other outside of work is that true??? heard they went to hanmar springs not long ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: is that true??? heard they went to hanmar springs not long ago Richie might be on the money, at last somebody is! HA HA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: is that true??? heard they went to hanmar springs not long ago Maybe different hot pools!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, Brodie said: Everyone’s memory is not as good as it used to be! Brodie doesn’t lie ever! What have I lied about???? A lie is an untruth, I don’t believe I have said anything that I beleive is not true! Brodie ive worked out your obvious thought process - it goes thus “if I can’t remember then it never happened “ Sums you up really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Newmarket said: Richie might be on the money, at last somebody is! HA HA most Richie info comes from tinwald tavern we all no about pub talk ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: is that true??? heard they went to hanmar springs not long ago Hamner ready to "run" sales? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Richie said: How would Mark know what Nat is doing.I believe they live in separate places on the property and hardly see each other outside of work you would assume they work closely together? to be running new zealands most successful training operation, you would assume as business partners they would be working very long hours together, is that a unreasonable asumption? if someone is on drugs, their behavior on drugs is in most cases, very different to their behaviour when sober. i would have thought it would have been obvious to mark. i dont think i could believe, that as closely as they would work together, that Mark did not know Natalie was using drugs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Hamner ready to "run" sales? lol queen mary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 and the question must also be asked, with drugs now being so prevalent in this industry, and already Natalie, and other drivers accused of being in possession of drugs, you would naturally think they would be using. how rigorous is drug testing on drivers? are drivers in races competing under the influence? whilst this is not fixing, its a real shame as it only reflects poorly on the industry. its an industry that is reliant on investment (owners and punters) and this will do nothing for their confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 43 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: no didnt forget mate, i didnt comment because i dont know if the two cases are related. related in terms of if there is any connection between the stable staff using p, and what natalie is being charged for. it sets a terrible precedent though, do as i say but not as i do, but they were class a drugs, and rightfully dismissed. Natalie from what i understand is charged with class b drugs, and i believe from what i have read, she nor the all stars are not implicated in fixing. only going by what i have read. what i will add though, whilst drugs are a demon, and im ok admitting i have also had my troubles with them (long ago, say this as i can relate), its a very difficult addiction, it does not reflect at all well on the industry that its leading trainers are so heavily implicated in this. would a potential new owner of integrity want to invest in an industry which is tainted with drugs, cheating and corruption? I must also add, my opinion of Mark Purdon and the all stars has diminished. Because surely Mark mast have known Natalie is using class b drugs, you would surely think so. he is happy to fire his employees for using p and contaminating his horses (fair enough), but Natalie is ok to use illegal substances? and continue in the operation. and this is meant to be our leading stable in NZ From memory (from the now amended Stuff reports) she has been charged with supplying a class B drug - much worse than mere possession ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: i dont think i could believe, that as closely as they would work together, that Mark did not know Natalie was using drugs I do not recall reading that anyone was "using" drugs. I did read that at least some are being charged for supply of drugs. Every dealer doesn't use.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, Belle said: Brodie ive worked out your obvious thought process - it goes thus “if I can’t remember then it never happened “ Sums you up really Belle, I am impressed that you think that I have a thought process. Yes everything is well thought out before I shoot from the hip! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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