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It's obvoius to me why they don't, its a very very competitive environment in Aus. and the spread of quality on a far grander scale , in NZ not so much if at all , particularly at the moment

Good luck to him , what a great opportunity for him, you'd think looking at his work ethic he will go well. Undoubtedly the entire merry go round is another thumbs up for the future of nz racing!

Youre probably right, my punting is so bad these days my account needs constant loading!

I gave it a good go and I'm calling it a flop for racing but pretty good for other sports.

It seems like the lessons aren't just for RACE but NZTR also, hopefully the report alludes to that.

Agree I have found it better and don't mind it, but the results part needs a sort out sometimes the hamster wheel never stops.

Yep especially the results, perhaps it's all the new traffic from people who can't get into retail stores 🙄

The sport is dead in the water in this country, these sorts of things are only the beginning. They get them going and then realise the horse racing side of things doesn't mix with the other areas , so guess what happens ...

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You'd think so, but probably not with this lot. More likely volume of alchohol sales, number tables/tents sold etc. All stuff that's relatively easy to control and consistent in demand. The wagering I'd be surprised if they even thought about it, take the AWT for example why hasn't the apparent success of that racing been conveyed to the industry?

Less is more right .... right???

Correct it might be a hint as to what the problem with the horse might be? Only guessing however.

Saundry cannot leave NZ racing fast enough in my view, leading us off the cliff top , under his stewardship the industry has gone from bad to worse year on year.

Couldn't agree more. http://www.theoptimist.co.nz/ NZTR more worried about COVID Copy and Paste than the actual lives of jockeys etc. BS should most certainly front up! http://www.theoptimist.co.nz/

$3k I think , but hey whats $1k in an industry as bouyant as our local racing industry, leaving very nice types as well from the ones I've seen on Gavelhouse.

The comment I read was only that he sustained an injury so can't identify what, makes ya wonder if it had anything to do with him being a Stallion proposition as to why it wasn't mentioned or perhaps its a show of recovery?

Form is suspect for mine, but then I guess that's going to be the case no matter what in NZ. Shouldn't stand for more than $2k in the NZ market, but they'll toss him around the Embellish level and find a home for him.

It makes you wonder if another Government bail out is on the cards? given all this sucking up to the government or is this the price for the latest bail out?

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Exactly!

The troube is they are following BS/NZTR pointless "venue plan" and the M report (well picking the parts they like i.e. the parts they wrote themselves or fabricated and thrust on the NZ industry) the damage has been done with those in mind and unfortunately there are still many naive industry participants out there who think both are going to create a more bouyant industry, when in my view they have both produced the opposite . NZTR should be kept as far a way as possible from producing any plans or reports or even commisioning them for that matter, they could turn the golden goose into a sparrow !

Odds on youre wasting your time doing that report, the industry won't change it refuses to , the self interest that burdens its progress will only begin to dessipate once the writing is on the wall. I admire your enthusiasm but unless personnel are put in place that are vastly different than what we have had in the last 30 years there is no hope of there being significant enough change to make it all work, imo the change that is needed would upset the status quo/the current vision for the future/the M report and therefore just isn't going to take place.

Ellerslie that is.

I agree and lacks empathy for anything be it trainer , owner etc beyond the Waikato.

Yeah but do we have bookmakers or anyone who wants to bet on our product?