Gammalite

If not we should ask Why not ?? Don't race drivers 'Talk' to the trainer any more these days ?? lol.......

Spot on Hunter. and horse wasn't up to it so caved in . but Fitz had a go. A few blokes and ladies having some fun. Shame it has to be a 'Tote' betting race.? all this fuss on thread. Better if just a "non-tote" affair. Amateur races are AMATEUR races. can't expect mind blowing standards like Dexter and Ant's are setting. Mrs Negus driving an 'interesting' race !! lol... but what possible good is suspending drivers having a crack.? People don't bet much on 'amateur' golf , tennis and the like , more likely to bet on the Pro's in those sports. Can't see why harness racing any different.

You have completely missed the point here which is the stipes can be fed any old story and they swallow it hook line and sinker. If that is your point , I believe this comment of yours to be totally true. You don't go in the stewards room bleating about your peers or your own ability ! you spin some story that blames the 'horse' everytime ..... Like a court of law , with the most learned folk around , you have a few 'spinning stories' most trials . Stewards are a 'mini-court' looking to impose some penalty . What a STUPID THING IMO that stewards would be asking a Top Professional driver ...... " Why didn't you pull out and go forward at the 1100m mark ??? WTF ! are they driving the race?? need some remote controls lol....... never got asked that in my life thank god. Dexter told them he was looking after his horse as he saw fit in the run . good enough for me. Not that different. Just a driver making a decision in the running that 'Some' don't agree with !!! stewards just have to suck that up as well . Ross Cameron getting the same treatment lately (unfairly IMO ) that Ferguson one at Auckland, was pretty bad IMO,(and yours) and would of liked to of been a steward on that case !!!.............lol.......

Totally ! pretty 'one-paced' horse that unfortunately couldn't muster enough pace early in the race to take the lead for Mrs Negus. I would say nearly ALL races in NZ and Oz see the participants doing their best (and as Mr Fitzgerald has said in this thread ), you definitely try and take advantage of a good barrier draw when you get it ! His horse performed quite poorly , had enough at the 1/4 unfortunately, but that's racing for ya ! The Dexter Dunn video here above is a JOKE surely? from 4 years ago at Ashburton ?. the near 'Best Driver in the world' , called out for getting beaten by the number 1 runner ,who had every luxury up front sprint laning from behind leader?? hahahahaha , and DDunn drew the 12 alley. This Happens all the time ???? A second row horse getting home well late on and just missing? . Not Dexters fault Master Moonlite was paying $1.20 some mug lost their money and is bitter, I spose. DDunn did what he could and nearly won from difficult barrier draw. excellent effort. sat one-one with same horse Wyndham soon after and only 2nd again. Can't win them all.

No longer a thing. It's Bit of a tragedy !!!!, as gives the opposition a chance. ....???? Let's have a look at some dual winners then. Il Vicolo wins off front 1995, then wins off 10m handicap 1996. Just an Excuse off front 2003, then wins off 10m 2004 Cup. Flashing Red off front in 2006, then wins off 15m 2007. Monkey King off front 2009 then won off front again 2010? bit of a gift then? . Set bad trend for future years..... Terror To Love off front wins 2011, then front again ? 2012 win, then front mark again for 2013 win? .... Where's the handicap to stop him???? Lazarus in race record 3.53.1 Nz Cup win in 2016. so NO HANDICAP was just a Gift Win for Lazarus in 2017 then ???? cruising to a 5 length win .... 10m in 2017 would of given opponents 'some' hope??? Self Assured off the front wins 2020 Nz Cup by 3 and 1/2 lengths , and gets No handicap for this years race ?? this means 2021 Nz Cup Will Be 'Absolute Gift' for him !!! write the cheque then. Il Vicolo, Just an Excuse and Flashing Red all did it the 'Proper' way like past grand Cup winners Lordship, False Step ,Cardy and co, etc, and came off a handicap for each win lol...... what good tough horses . woose horses these days lol .....scared of 10m?

Just looked her up HonJohn , and she is a trail-blazer too !! the Late Lorraine Grant was the first lady driver in the Cup !!! 20 years Before Kerryn Manning won the NZ Cup ,Lorraine Grant drove Rainbow Patch in the great race in 1995..... first ever lady to drive in that time-honoured race. unplaced behind Mark and Il Vicolo that year as an outsider in the Cup, but Rainbow Patch gathered 10 wins in 50 starts. career. And checking the Dominion Karrots >>>>>>>> for a lady winner . Well SHEREE T is your girl !!! 2017 winner only lady driver win. Interestingly, a VERY tough race to win , with 2 of the greatest drivers I've ever seen, Peter Wolfenden is not on winners list , and Mark Purdon with just the 1 x victory in the Dominion Handicap. that is quite astonishing lol......... looks like John Dunn will go past that with defending champion SUNDEES SON this year , to get his 2nd win in the race after victory last year. Surely he gets a 10m handicap this time though ???

Kerryn Manning (had her 'mind boggling' 4000th winning drive earlier this year) was the first Lady driver to take the great race! winning the NZ CUP in 2015. Just a week after Michelle Payne won the Melbourne Cup in 2015, the first lady jockey to do so in the 150 odd years of that race . Since that moment, both the lady drivers and jockeys going ahead in leaps and bounds with Natalie R and Jamie Kah winning a lot of big races and Premierships, etc..... Lady drivers rarely competed in these races, last century . Natalie Rasmussen is actually the 'Current INTERDOMINION champion' having won the last one with Ultimate Sniper , (and won the 4 Grand-finals early 2000's as well with Blacks A Fake) A Fun Fact for you guys, is Natalie was nearly NOT the First Lady driver to win the INTERDOMINION !!! Here's a page from Brisbane where I took a horse to race at 1986 Interdominion . A great kiwi bred horse, 'Village Kid' was 20-1 on ($1.05) to win and did easily.! But the 2nd placing was a 24 year old ANNE JAMES driving Vanderport . So close to Immortality for Anne!!!!!! , but $2 million winner Village Kid had the complete luxury of a short 2100m Grand Final at his complete mercy. SEE a NZ CUP winner Master Mood for Kevin Williams made the final too. !!! (finished 7th). and Vinny only 9th with Bag Limit....

A good 2nd for the 'Dealer,' just now to qualify for final ok. Winner was a good one too . Couple of Sweet Lou's mare's 2nd and 3rd in the mares race at Menangle Race 3 Karrots! (run down by a Bettor's Delight of course !!!) THE STUNNING NUN also blistered home from well back to win Race 2 . she's a gun !!! Meanwhile a fellow kiwi is also looking like a 'Cup horse' in Brisbane. The former Matty Williamson horse DEUS EX won by 4 lengths un-touched in 1.51.4 making it three from three now At Albion Park, as $1.50 favourite everytime. Quite a horse.!!! Think he will be beating Colt Thirty One and Turn It Up the way he is going. Wonder why wasn't winning in NZ much? ?? Too hard over there?

And again tonight at Moonee Valley to see in October !! The Rhino at $5.50 and $1.70 on Sportsbet too. Not to be out-done by stablemate ELEPHANT the Rhino getting another win too. Hope some of you were on ok !!!!

Well that sucks. My pin -up girl wins at $4.80 and didn't have a cent on it. Have ripped Farrah Fawcett and Rachel Welsh posters down off the wall to make room for her too . Just like covid lock-ups some things don't make sense ?Did Mark let her win ?? lol........ Nat is too good lol.....

SCA a chance on that run but SELF ASSURED wins Cup by 4 and 1/2 lengths . loves the 2 miles.

Self assured would of won if not for Kango stuffing him up . But Natalie is the gun tonight. !!! good pro-active drive on Pembrook Playboy to 'Try' and beat them . but you're on a hiding to nothing with Mark and Nat in the race !!! lol.

Hey thats a funny one. now you mention it Ranga's colours are near like a set I have here went round in a few times.

How good Sundee's Son then off 30m ? that was awesome a big sprint to get near the 'game' leader stablemate, Chief of Staff, and then outstayed him. Dunns have dunnit again ! Better handicap him in the 'Dominion' next month as well or it's all over rover.

Yes , took that one from your tip previously , Thank-you very muchly, and into multi with Allegra and Cranbourne too, so going along nicely . What did you think of Self Assured and Deny Everything ? shame about the covid , they have actually REFUNDED 25% of the folks with tickets to the NRL final here in Brisbane on Sunday evening !!!! astonishing ! no wonder they are getting riots in the streets . (Melbourne mainly) wonder what difference having 32,000 compared to 50,000 people in one place makes ???? lol...... fools they be .....

And what a brilliant and Well Deserved Win to SOD"S LAW in the first race just now. !!!!!!!!!! This horse tipped by a few on BOAY at times, and No 'Walk in the Park' either ?? The driver drove an Anthony Butt type of race to win it from the one alley and in traffic in that big field !!! Tremendous exhibition of driving and trotting in that race. great stuff.!!!! crikey the FIRST4 paid $10,000 neat on sportsbet too. (Sheree driving a very good race too on the outsider)

What a great nights racing in store for all. hope the crowd can still attend. Shame with STYLISH MEMPHIS being scratched as she has won Group 1 's in Australia . The NSW Oaks last year when steered by the exquisite Mark Purdon and the Ladyship mile group 1 driven by Jack Trainor of all people. !!!! With the Victoria Oaks heats run this week , the last years race went to Dr SUSAN from Nz , with Stylish Memphis 2nd. Question : What happened to Dr Susan ? does anyone know? Mark Jones is some sort of trainer alright , has the 2 year old MAJOR MEMPHIS in the last from the outside gate. ! still might win. and take a look at DENY EVERYTHING (from the pole in the 2nd last race ) back after a year or 2 off with 2 wins !!! well done Mark. Question 2 : Why doesn't Mark JONES have heaps of horses and runners.? He is A+ standard? although not sure why PLUTONIUM LADY can't seem to hold her form , when looking quite dashing on occasion. Good luck to all having a Punt !!!! (not expecting Nat to run down Marky boy in the big race lol.........)

SELF ASSURED is one of the best horses I've ever seen . Memory refresher >>>>>>>> He won this race last year easily, then had good seconds to Spankem and CopyThat at Methven and Ashburton (2 Fab horses) and then Won the NZ CUP very easily by 3 lengths cruising, in 3.55 for the 2 miles . He'll win the Cup again this year !!!! He won 4 out of 4 as a young horse in Brisbane , beating Australia's best LOCHINVAR ART very easily. Tonight $2.40 odds on Sportsbet here seems very generous?? , with No Spankem or CopyThat around. I've been backing Self Assured at 9-1 for the Interdominion late in year for some time already, so hope he goes over ok. !!!!!! King of Swing is Fav for that but reckon Mark will cruise on by KOS up the Menangle straight, when the whips are cracking !!

With great NZ interest this week in how AMERICAN DEALER performs in the Victoria Derby Heats , and the Prestigious Victoria Oaks heats are on as well. Here is a trainer who is matching Allstars in winning plentiful age-group Feature Group races. EMMA STEWART VIC 358 125 54 - 40 $1,977,667 45 $1,442,790 80 $534,877 Emma Stewart has 5 runners in the Derby Heats (all last start winners except one) And 7 Fillies in the Vic Oaks heats (all have won their last 2 starts !!! ( except one named TOUGH TILLY who ran 2nd to the stablemate LADIES IN RED at her last start) We can forgive TOUGH TILLY that loss though as she had won her previous 3 races, before that 2nd placing, including the first prize of $150,000 in the APG grand Final in 1.52.5 .earlier in year at Melton !!!! quite a sensational filly. Emma likely to qualify the FIrst 6 Favourite runners for the Vic Oaks Final !!!! on Saturday night at Bendigo from the 2 Heats. amazing. This year (2021 season) from that stat, above EMMA has won 125 races from 358 starters with 45 of them being Metro winners. a win every 3 starters but would be better than that if not for the feature race clashes. exceptional training.......

na I wont be allowed. Brodsters new Bowling shirt.

Just a shame to see it go up in flames , with the ethical issues. racing several uncompetitive horses. results yesterday saw 2 wins for Ben Yole in the 7 races from his 50 starting horses. 1 quinella. on a brighter note he gets drives and stable work for youngsters keen to have a go at the sport. And also impressing is Ben's brother Mark Yole, who is an exceptionally gifted driver . Drives a great race nearly every time , and would do very well on the mainland. yesterday Mark Yole had just three drives in the Hobart races, but won 2 races.!! as he does so often. They were the 2 horses he drove for other stables other than Ben Yoles !!!!! hehehe

Gammalite more likely to take on Popular Alm in his day. Paleface Adios actually had Koala King to contend with a few years earlier, but from what I hear was a Top Bloke/horse. Are all the covid cases in Auckland Karrots? tragedy if they block crowd for Cup week way down at Christchurch. >...In Victoria, They are very likely to block them again for Melbourne Cup (public attendance) . Queensland now threatened with more Interstate Truck drivers testing positive. They have a 50,000 strong crowd booked for the NRL rugby League Final next week-end !! imagine calling that off for a few community cases!. nuts...

Poor 'results' is what I see.... I don't know the bloke but I come from Tassie, and they now call it 'The Killing Fields" I disagree this is keeping Tassie racing going. This is possibly destroying it. ? Because you couldn't possibly support runners in these races , so punting must be minimal and public interest even less.... I'm a harness racing fan and can't stand Tas racing nor enjoy seeing it going this way !. Webberley and Barry Rattray used to put Tassie on the Map !! now it's just a remote Island for has-beens .... yes I'm sure the Yole 'Training Fees' would be 'smallish' maybe? , but how many Knacker Yard horses can you save? to race and run unplaced all the time? , then send back to the ................................ back-blocks. Yole is just Flooding most races with 'half competitve' horses. they just say...... 'Trains the most winners in Australia' ? to justify the strategy... 173 wins this year 2368 starts.

You guys think things are Bad in NZ ? you ain't got nothing on Tasmanian Harness racing and Mr B Yole. I'm having mental Health issues just looking at the Tasmanian fields today , and having to Digest the Fact' that this bloke YOLE, with 50 horses racing Hobart today, is Australia's leading Trainer ???? good grief. very sad. How could anyone bet ?, or even a dollar on these things? . (hopefully no-one in NZ does) spose you just bet on the opponents, but who would watch this rubbish? What BEN YOLE does, Is load races with as many runners as possible to try and jag something >>>. The horse form is deplorable from his stable . You have to doubt 'whatever method' if Any at All that they use in training . must be going straight out of the freezing Tassie paddocks . here's a look at the form today. RACE 1/ 11 starters, 8 x YOLE runners are in with just 3 placings in total of the last 5 starts between them (1 win + 2 placings from last 40 starts) RACE 2/ 11 starters, 8 x YOLE runners in ......................... (1 win + 4 placings from last 40 starts ") RACE 3/ 12 starters, 8 x Yole runners in .......................... (2 wins + 6 placings from last 40 starts between them)) RACE 4/ 10 starters 5 x YOLE runners in ..........................(2 wins + 4 Placings from last 25 starts ") RACE 5/ 14 starters 7 x YOLE runners in ..........................( 0 wins + 2 Placings from last 35 starts between them) RACE 6/ 12 starters 9 x YOLE runners in ...........................( 4 wins + 2 placings from last 45 starts ) 2 wins from one horse ? , must be the good one !!!! RACE 7/ 8 starters 5 x YOLE runners in ...........................( 0 wins + 1 placing from last 25 starts ") so 10 wins from over 200 starts from this lot of 50 Horses recently , after having 66% of the field nearly all the time as well !! .and none even breaking 2 minute MR. Disgraceful .... ... how is that ranked 'The Best'? embarrassing best (at best)....... and the strappers must get tired too lol.....

Hope they can Always Keep the NZ Derby as a Group 1 level ?? . surely the pinnacle for young stayers to reach. Occasionally the Victoria Derby has just nice progressive types , that don't win often at all. The last one (Derby last Nov) was won by an old AFL coach turned trainer , so something that all Trainers can aspire too. And still has enormous PRESTIGE. I can really understand the demand for 3200m at Auckland Cup level falling away. There's Just not enough two mile stayers around to support the race as a Group 1. I draw it in comparison with the time-honoured Brisbane Cup. I loved going every Queens Birthday holiday Monday for years every June to the 3200m Brisbane Cup. But as numbers dropped to compete in it , they dropped it back to Group 2 and only 2400m in 2007, and then ran it Stradbroke Day as an 'extra'. It Lost the PRESTIGE after that. very sadly. This year the Brisbane Cup went back to the 3200m to try and grab some Prestige back,, and it flopped again. only six starters!!!. Of course the IRISH staying import that was in it, won it very easily. Many of the big players in Oz (like Llyod Williams ) have destroyed much of the local hopes of breeding/owning a MC winner. Vow and Declare sneaked in one year for the locals by chance this century , but local 2 milers like Castletown, Empire Rose, Kiwi etc,,, just a distant memory now.