Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, mikeynz said: For instance if a purdon horse at 1 60 you cant put say 75000 on but would be able to do so on a ten to 1 shot at orari The TAB would never accept a 10 000 bet on a 10-1 shot at Orari. Not in a million years. Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: The TAB would never accept a 10 000 bet on a 10-1 shot at Orari. Not in a million years. Because to save punter losing money or tab risking losing there's? Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, mikeynz said: Because to save punter losing money or tab risking losing there's? They would think they were being set up so wouldn't risk it for their own sake. A few weeks ago they were mentioning 10 and 50 dollar bets being placed so 10 000 would be out of their league. From my observations and betting experience I would suggest a one dollar drop in a price for a horse would equate to about 50 dollars being put on the horse for the ff win but that is pure speculation on my part and I doubt there is any logic to the movement of the odds. When you see something drop from say 17ff to 13ff on opening it doesn't really mean much these days. 1 Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: If they can make the weight and haven't been drinking 😅 It must be hard being a jockey on race day walking past the barbies on a holiday meet and being tempted to have a steak and say fuck the racing lol, a bit like churchgoers of a certain religion who are fasting before easter,I'd love to hide some nice hot KFC under the seats just to see if they can resist temptation during the service,coz when its comes to the belly and the ball bag we cant resist and give in to temptation lol. Ps so I have been told😉 1 Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said: They would think they were being set up so wouldn't risk it for their own sake. A few weeks ago they were mentioning 10 and 50 dollar bets being placed so 10 000 would be out of their league. From my observations and betting experience I would suggest a one dollar drop in a price for a horse would equate to about 50 dollars being put on the horse for the ff win but that is pure speculation on my part and I doubt there is any logic to the movement of the odds. When you see something drop from say 17ff to 13ff on opening it doesn't really mean much these days. It was just a generalization Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, mikeynz said: It was just a generalization What would you consider a big bet Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, mikeynz said: What would you consider a big bet I feel like I'm talking to myself😀 Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: They would think they were being set up so wouldn't risk it for their own sake. A few weeks ago they were mentioning 10 and 50 dollar bets being placed so 10 000 would be out of their league. From my observations and betting experience I would suggest a one dollar drop in a price for a horse would equate to about 50 dollars being put on the horse for the ff win but that is pure speculation on my part and I doubt there is any logic to the movement of the odds. When you see something drop from say 17ff to 13ff on opening it doesn't really mean much these days. There is a thing called responsible gambling. Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, mikeynz said: I feel like I'm talking to myself😀 How is that? Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, mikeynz said: There is a thing called responsible gambling. Yes, there is but what does that have to do with the conversation? Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said: How is that? Well I was quoting my own comments lol 1 Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said: Yes, there is but what does that have to do with the conversation? Well I was kind of meaning the tab not accepting a ten grand bet,acting responsible in not accepting,irrelevant in the conversation I spose. Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, mikeynz said: Well I was kind of meaning the tab not accepting a ten grand bet,acting responsible in not accepting It has nothing to do with the integrity of the TAB. The only look after their own interests. Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 They dont restrict tote betting do they? ? Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, mikeynz said: They dont restrict tote betting do they? ? Only Brodie's as he is super special. 1 Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, Happy Sunrise said: Only Brodie's as he is super special. And that may just be his perception at work. Quote
mikeynz Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, Happy Sunrise said: And that may just be his perception at work. When you see those purdon runners paying a dollar for a place then some have stacked a lot on, for what? Quote
Happy Sunrise Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, mikeynz said: When you see those purdon runners paying a dollar for a place then some have stacked a lot on, for what? It is a safe bet because if the punter is lacking confidence then the All Star factor gives them the courage to put the bet on or the thinking is 'the all stars always win' so this bet will win too. That is why multis of All Stars on Jewels Days and Cup Week are so popular. The same punter would probably not put the same bet on if it was a McGrath or Dunn runner. Quote
Brodie Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 The NZ TAB restricts certain punters to be able to net a certain figure, irrespective of whether it is a 1.50 favourite or a $50 Outsider? The amount I am allowed is not worth the effort, however when I do bet a wee bit on, they often save me money at the moment! The NZ TAB policy of restricting certain punters to a pathetic amount is seriously flawed! They have aLways got the advantage and always should be making money on every race! They should be encouraging all punters to offload, however they are hellbent on having a good yield Rather than making a bigger profit! The $46m betting platform has certainly not done the racing industry any favours, unless you are into punting on Korean Table Tennis or Russian Basketball!!! 1 Quote
Rusty Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy Sunrise said: At least in the gallops they don't have flat tyres. Or lock bloody wheels!!! Another one tonight Happy. Quote
hunterthepunter Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 5 hours ago, the galah said: So the" number of cases of sore feet to hit the stable" only seem to effect the horses running on sunday,but not the 5 they have in tonight or the 7 they have in at auckland tomorrow,none of whom have been scratched? Thats a mysterious coincidence. no other stable having that problem . must be founded in the feet?? 1 Quote
Davis Posted September 18, 2020 Posted September 18, 2020 19 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: no other stable having that problem . must be founded in the feet?? My understanding it was only the two Hannon runners that had hoof problemo going by story now on website? I think the oringal story was badly written and it made sounded like all of the Purdon/Rasmusen stable had bad feet. The two that one last night looked to have no problem,s. 😊 Quote
Richie Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 On 17/09/2020 at 8:45 PM, Happy Sunrise said: True but the social scene of big crowds at Cromwell, Oamakau, Mot, Orari etc is vital to the sustainability of the industry in a variety of ways. Only if they are betting,which a lot dont 1 Quote
Richie Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 On 17/09/2020 at 9:05 PM, Happy Sunrise said: I am not exactly sure how the TAB works it. It is especially restrictive when the FF come out and I try to bet on something at odds. I am only talking in the low 2 figures, not even 3 figures. I seem to have a limit on how much I can win at times too. It is a mystery but it seems quite common among harness punters. Some punters have limits on trots but not on gallops 1 Quote
hunterthepunter Posted September 19, 2020 Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Richie said: Some punters have limits on trots but not on gallops me old mate can be the other way round too Quote
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