Fair call, mind you he did ride horse some time back, never on the track, 3 wide, the trip with big weight on a heavy track, hence to say where he finished, and the feedback, from stipes report was, did handle conditions, needless to say, horse backed up a week later, same track and conditions, different rider, and wins, new rider said he relished conditions, that certainly had me beat, funny to say the horse preformed his best in those conditions there after. Would you believe me.