Mehe Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Uou can't read thats good to see dumb fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 see how bad this site is this is the only thing really thats been talked about for 3 or 4days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mehe said: Uou can't read thats good to see dumb fuck You might need to have a lie down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: You might need to have a lie down. Don't the nurses come around and make sure they're all secure for the night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 This would have to be one of the most bizarre threads to ever have appeared anywhere — 228 posts about the rights and wrongs of a horse whose only distinction is that he's very slow. Please Chief, put it out of its misery (the thread, not the horse!😀) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Basil said: This would have to be one of the most bizarre threads to ever have appeared anywhere — 228 posts about the rights and wrongs of a horse whose only distinction is that he's very slow. Please Chief, put it out of its misery (the thread, not the horse!😀) From my perspective the issue is bigger than just one horse. We are worried about integrity in the industry and animal welfare but the system allows a rising 7 yr old gelding to turn up week after week with no chance of either giving a punter, the owner, the trainer or the quality of a race a positive outcome. Isn't that the reall issue? As a racing jurisdiction we are slipping further and further into a backwater. FFS there are enough RIU and Industry Admin staff to address these issues and try and get some quality back into racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: As a racing jurisdiction we are slipping further and further into a backwater. FFS there are enough RIU and Industry Admin staff to address these issues and try and get some quality back into racing. just got to look at the idiots running the show that why most people call them the RACING IDIOT UNIT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Basil said: This would have to be one of the most bizarre threads to ever have appeared anywhere — 228 posts about the rights and wrongs of a horse whose only distinction is that he's very slow. Please Chief, put it out of its misery (the thread, not the horse!😀) Basil, forums are for debate and opinions, whether you appreciate the topic or not! I initiated the post, which in my opinion was that this horse didnt really deserve to be racing after over 40 starts, not a single dividend bearing placing. With the cost of training bills nowadays and seeing your horse finishing down the track every start, didnt make sense. Then a couple decided in their opinion it had nothing to do with anyone but the owner! The horse has continued to race and finish down the track with no real return apart from appearance money. Mehe, has come onto the scene calling me someone who is doing things, which is extremely upsetting to myself! Basil, the fact that the Averos Spitfire story is ongoing nearly weekly, is quite exciting I would have thought, with several enthusiasts waiting with baited breath for a placing! Whether that placing ever arrives is very debateable though! The TAB could run a book on it, will “the Spitfire” ever run a dividend bearing placing? Edited July 28, 2020 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Mehe said: see how bad this site is this is the only thing really thats been talked about for 3 or 4days If it is that bad you can go hang out with Scooby and Pounder on the other site and discuss harness racing over there if you wish. Just tell us how you get on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy Sunrise said: If it is that bad you can go hang out with Scooby and Pounder on the other site and discuss harness racing over there if you wish. Just tell us how you get on. We can barely understand what he says, so how on earth are the DarkSiders going to? Mehe is just a troller, but it would be hilarious watching what went on over their with his colourful words, Happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy Sunrise said: If it is that bad you can go hang out with Scooby and Pounder on the other site and discuss harness racing over there if you wish. Just tell us how you get on. happy you forgot jj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: From my perspective the issue is bigger than just one horse. We are worried about integrity in the industry and animal welfare but the system allows a rising 7 yr old gelding to turn up week after week with no chance of either giving a punter, the owner, the trainer or the quality of a race a positive outcome. Isn't that the reall issue? As a racing jurisdiction we are slipping further and further into a backwater. FFS there are enough RIU and Industry Admin staff to address these issues and try and get some quality back into racing. I have some sympathy for this view, but, unfortunately, this thread has only tangentially addressed it (to my shame, I've now contributed the 236th post!) As far as the animal welfare issue is concerned, it might be worth considering what the fate of AS could be if he didn't trundle around at the back of the field every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Basil said: I have some sympathy for this view, but, unfortunately, this thread has only tangentially addressed it (to my shame, I've now contributed the 236th post!) As far as the animal welfare issue is concerned, it might be worth considering what the fate of AS could be if he didn't trundle around at the back of the field every week. Basil, we are all aware that not every horse that is bred as a racehorse stays in work for many years, just so that they are not put down! The majority of owners I know are wanting a reasonable return from spending $20k each year for paying training bills! The horse is a very poor performer and surely the owner and trainer should have realised by now, after 47 starts, that the horse is nil and doesnt deserve to be racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brodie said: Basil, we are all aware that not every horse that is bred as a racehorse stays in work for many years, just so that they are not put down! The majority of owners I know are wanting a reasonable return from spending $20k each year for paying training bills! The horse is a very poor performer and surely the owner and trainer should have realised by now, after 47 starts, that the horse is nil and doesnt deserve to be racing? still 113 starts to go to catch up with Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: happy you forgot jj Who? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: still 113 starts to go to catch up with Kelly Kelly Evander was nil as well, and shouldnt have had so many starts. wasn’t it trained by the owner, so cheaper and didnt it win a race and place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Brodie said: Kelly Evander was nil as well, and shouldnt have had so many starts. wasn’t it trained by the owner, so cheaper and didnt it win a race and place? was trained by its owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Every horse has its place in racing. You need the slow ones as much as you need the fast ones. If the Aveross Spitfires of racing were non existent I would give up punting. In my opinion they give some variety to an otherwise bore fest by A) creating an obstacle to favoured runners if drawn better thereby making it harder for favoured runners to win. B) Adding value to exotic bets if an aveross spitfire does happen to run in the placings. C) creating bigger fields which makes the races more attractive for betting on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Brodie said: Kelly Evander was nil as well, and shouldnt have had so many starts. wasn’t it trained by the owner, so cheaper and didnt it win a race and place? Kelly evander had a cult following on fb. She was a novelty! She always trotted, just not fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, Roman said: Kelly evander had a cult following on fb. She was a novelty! She always trotted, just not fast. So about time Averos Spitfire had a fan club if the owners are going to continue to shell out! Maybe start up a Givealittle to pay for the costs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Nowornever said: Every horse has its place in racing. You need the slow ones as much as you need the fast ones. If the Aveross Spitfires of racing were non existent I would give up punting. In my opinion they give some variety to an otherwise bore fest by A) creating an obstacle to favoured runners if drawn better thereby making it harder for favoured runners to win. B) Adding value to exotic bets if an aveross spitfire does happen to run in the placings. C) creating bigger fields which makes the races more attractive for betting on. Do the owners really need to be paying out for a horse that can not run? I prefer the loose class racing as a punting option as well, however the point of the post was to query the logic in owning a horse that is not good enough to be at the races! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Why don't they have a no hopers grade for those that have filled a place in 20 starts or more? Then they only get in each other's way and you have a good betting race. Just imagine trying to do the speed maps! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Why don't they have a no hopers grade for those that have filled a place in 20 starts or more? Then they only get in each other's way and you have a good betting race. Just imagine trying to do the speed maps! A no hopers grade.... sponsored by Mehe perhaps?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, Ludwig said: A no hopers grade.... sponsored by Mehe perhaps?? years ago there was a b grade for horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Horse might be the stable GP? Owners aren't paying a cent to have it racing but are getting appearance money and who knows one day the unthinkable might happen... If it's the GP for Missalyssa then it makes even more sense.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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