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    • Entain love and encourage it because those races sell more bets, even though they are our worst performers on a wagering revenue to stakes basis. All good for them though as long as clubs, NZTR and the wider industry are funding it.
    • The New York Racing Association announced Dec. 17 the stakes schedule for the 2026 winter meet at Aqueduct Racetrack, which will include 20 stakes races worth more than $3.1 million in total purses.View the full article
    • That may well be the case but I hope they have done the sums in terms of producing enough revenue to fund ongoing maintenance.  We now know that the AWT's don't produce enough. In many respects they need this Greenfields site to act as a counter to Ellerslie where at the moment all roads lead to.   What I don't get is Ellerslie are running at an operating loss on racing yet are bolstering stakes on every race.  That in my mind is pissing good money up against the wall for no good reason.  Do premium stakes when there aren't many options to race really achieve anything?  Mind you it is the mindset we have seen in racing for decades.
    • Research says that those messages are tokenistic and totally ineffective in reducing gambling harm which I am sure Entain well knows.
    • A few lines of what? The simplest way to fix those that you know that are "having a bad run for few months" would be to tell them to stop following your punting tips.  What do you quantify as "a bad run" anyway? FFS @Newmarket that was over 20 years ago!  Of course you conflate a lot of things to boost your story.  Graham Bruton aka Steel Balls had a very very long winning streak fuelled in part by his large share in Lyell Creek - essentially he was gambling with his harness stake money.  Yet you have argued on BOAY that the betting limit restrictions on winners is bad!  Make your mind up! As for the credit betting episode that was an issue with one Agency Owner who was a friend of Brutons.  The Agency owner allowed him to bet on credit and when Bruton couldn't square up and the Owner couldn't either the Agency Owner was given the boot as it was against TAB policy rules.  Of course credit betting is not be confused with using your credit card to put a bet on. Bruton started to unravel when he started punting on Super Rugby and he kept doubling up on the Brumbies in 2002 who he backed in the final against the Crusaders to win $500,000.  Unfortunately in the last mintues of the game in one of the best defensive displays in the history of rugby Merthens kicked the match winning goal.  The story goes Bruton got up off his couch and said to his mates he was going for a walk - they picked him up at Raikaia! I'm surprised you haven't mentioned my Great Uncle from the 1970's who was a bigger punter than Bruton.  He had a special access to the back of the tote to make his bets.  Unfortunately one of his cheques bounced one day and he had to borrow several thousand dollars off his nephew.  Oh those were the days when men were men, women were glad and sheep were scared. They didn't want turnover the TAB wanted to win back what they had lost.  A concept @Brodie doesn't wish to understand.  Actually @Brodie is a problem gambler - that is he is a problem for the TAB being, unlike yourself, a very disciplined punter who I'm told has taken the TAB for millions.  The TAB didn't run for cover.  The Agency Owner was sacked.   Plus the TAB tightened the balancing rules closing a loop hole making credit bets less likely to go unnoticed until up to 24 hours after betting.  That loop hole worked as long as the punter paid up between the two balance times.   I'm surprised you didn't further conflate your "story" by referring to the Mick Guerin episode where he rang the agency below his flat and places a $1,000 bet which he didn't pay until 15 minutes later but then that would highlight the fact that systems have improved.  As most systems do over time. So the TAB did "give a shit"! How was he treated badly?  He punted with his Lyell Creek winnings, had a long winning streak and revelled in the publicity and took all the rebates and baubles that came with it.  Until it all turned to custard and he started losing.  He then went crying to the NZ Herald when he lost $180k in one weekend which there was some irony given he had been cleaning up much more for a very long time. Your memory may fail you but Lyell Creek won over a $1 million in the 2000 to 2002 seasons. He won 14 races in a row if my memory serves me correctly.  (Come in @Gammalite )   Bruton had a lot of cash to play with and he enjoyed the limelight as we all do when we get a good horse.   @Newmarket admit it you are crying crododile tears because you've been cut off from your overseas agency fix.
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